Where Can One Buy A Sit-ski From? Options

[qman]

just got my prasch, which is great but made a couple of errors in ordering the main one being the seat width. there 40cm is 38cm etc..

so mine is very tight but usable

[Pete Anderson]

I'm trying to lock in the cost, including VAT and shipping with Praschberger via e-mail, but I'm not getting a response. Any suggestions, besides calling them? They are the most expensive mono-ski out there. I feel this is a bad indicator for future services.

Pete

[qman]

actually they (prasch) are no where near the most expensive mono, they are actually one of the cheaper,

should try costing a tessier one. the prasch was 40% cheaper.

i think they are only slightly more expensive than the Freedom factory.

Prasch have been pretty good to deal with but have to remember that they are basically on summer holidays at the moment in austria. it will cost you about $2600 euro, should be VAT exempt if you are OS. but you will pay local duty or GST or VAT or whatever in your country

i have sorted out most of the tweaking now. the shock is 90% there turning wise now and i am actually happy with the seat although it is very tight and hard to get in and out of. it skis well though and doent mark my hips so should be sweet.

Like i said be carefull with the seat width. go about the width of your WC rather than narrower as they are roughly 2cm narrower than the specified width once the foam lining etc is in place. best to try one of a known width for size if you can.

the WP fusion shock is good and very adjustable. but will take me a while to get in nailed re dampening etc..


ps, they say available in 4 weeks which was roughly right but add a week for shipping and customs etc.. if over seas. 6 weeks to 2 months to be safe for ordering

[Pete Anderson]

Thanks for the info. So I am an idiot. What is a "WC?" And do you suggest the WhitePowder Fusion Shock, over the Emulsion? What is the difference?

Thanks! Any other suggestions on what to get would be helpful.

Pete.

PS: I slammed in hanggliding. I noticed you hammered in paragliding...Ouch!

[qman]

yeah, sort of broken eagles eh.

WC = wheel chair. if you are in a 16inch chair order a 16 inch (or =) sit ski, i went narrower as i wanted a narrower fit but they seem to have already taken that into account,

generally get the best shock you can afford. I think the fusion is better than the emulsion in that it has more dampening adjustments etc, if you can afford it get the ohlins shock but it is really expensive.

the other thing is the frame angle 70 degrees or 77 degrees i think. and the 70 degree one is higher than the other in the seating position and generally recommended for racers and lower breaks. it is a little more unstable but can be skied more aggressively. the 77 degree one is a little easier to get up if you fall over etc at the centre of gravity is lower.

the leg pods and covers are good if you can but are pretty expensive options and not really needed for recreational skiing IMHO.

the other things are pretty straight forward.

generally i am pretty happy with it, we have heaps of snow at the moment with about 1m over the last week, should be a big powder day tomorrow.

[Pete Anderson]

Thanks for your input.

I found a USA distributor for the Prasch and I am in the process of ordering one with the fusion shock. I double checked my seat width and feel comfortable with my measurements.

The Ohlins shock is the cream of the crop type of shock and is selling for about 1000 euros. Too much money for my taste and pocket book. This shock would be ideal in very cold condtions and for the hard core racers.

The Tesser mono ski appears to be top of the line, and so far the most expensive that I have found, over $6000. Again, no thanks.

I am definitely amped to ski this year since now I no longer sky dive, or hardly ever hang glide. My adrenalin filled body is starting to dry up and whither away.

[qman]

great,

just be sure they dont sting you to much extra for ordering through the distributor as it is pretty easy to order direct from prasch.

although i was a bit concerned initially i am pretty happy with the width i got now as it skis really well,
i am pretty happy with the fusion shock although it is taking a while to nail all the adjustments (4 variables). but that is no issue with the shock. it just takes time

it is skiing great now.

i really enjoy skiing as it really puts me on par with my mates on the hill and can seriously blast around.

[Pete Anderson]

Do you do any jumps, or x-treme type of skiing with your sit ski? Im really curious about doing bumps and jumps. I would think its tough on the shock and frame.

Pete

[qman]

i am pretty new to it really but am skiing steep and deep stuff when the snow is consistent.

i find it a little tricky in crusty snow but other wise it is great.

There are a few guys skiing these rigs pretty hard and getting BIG air.

check out http://www.theandycampbell.com/1/Welcome.html

[Pete Anderson]

Before my accident, I would hate to ski in icey conditions, but with the sit ski, I found I have a lot of control and I can really cut an edge to carve out a turn.

In powder...that's tricky.

In crud...that's even more challenging.

I think that once I have my own sit ski, I can have it adjusted just right and really dial into the conditions.

That video of the down hill race where they're taking the jumps is really the acid test in durability of the sit ski design. I'm looking foreward to winter!

Pete

[qman]

it is a bit of different skis for different purposes.

fat skis help in soft snow. i have a ski up to 104mm underfoot and that helps sometimes but is poor on the firm snow.

I have a head monster 88 ski which i find the best all rounder. wide but stiff with a gs sidecut.

This post has been edited by qman: Sep 12 2009, 09:27 AM

[dave 67]

yeah but doesnt matter how good they are if you cant get them.

It is impossible to get even information on the Nissin let alone a price or delivery and the S Carver looks good but is nearly twice the cost of a prasch. They about about 4000 euro versus about 2400 euro for the prasch.

Yeah, What is with NISSIN. They put this product out there but refuse to discuss it. It's like a Japanese National Security issue!!
If a high profile company like Colours In Motion are distributing them I would have thought that they would have ready access to the information about their product, but NO, still the great wal of silence.
I've just posted about this before I found this string. This issue is driving me crazy

[Pete Anderson]

Its been an education getting to know what is out there.

In the US, there's two manufacturers that I know of: Freedom Factory and KGB.

Freedom Factory produces what some consider a basic design.
KGB is more of a high performance racing design.

In Europe there's the Tessier and Praschberger.

In Japan, there is the elusive Nissin.

I believe there is one other manufacture out there, but I don't recall the name.

Not a whole lot out there when comparing this to the number of various types, designs and manufacture's of skis on the market.

I just put my order in for the Praschberger (I took a leap of faith, and sold my first born to purchase it).

Pete

Opps, found this link in this thread: manufactures

This post has been edited by Pete Anderson: Sep 16 2009, 04:39 AM

[qman]

rumour has it that the nissin is sort of under restriction until after the winter olympics on the theory that those using it will have the upper hand at vancouver.

maybe they will become more available next year.

[russ1]

rumour has it that the nissin is sort of under restriction until after the winter olympics on the theory that those using it will have the upper hand at vancouver.

maybe they will become more available next year.

I suspect that's just a rumour - I was chatting with one of the US team who had one last year and my friend who's in the UK team has just bought one with a view to using it in vancouver.

[twisted_ophelia]

Well, I'm excited because ski season is just around the corner! Just heard that it is snowing like crazy in Breckenridge, CO already

[qman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCJxN0i3c1s

here is the lasted vid,

the first half is on a FF RPC and the later parts on my Prash

[outkastsl]

I just picked up a used RPC and I'm excited to go hit the snow. I didn't want to spend to much so the second hand one was perfect and it fits perfect.

Hey qman, awesome video, can't believe it's your first year...you look like you got it down. Also, what ski are you using?

This post has been edited by outkastsl: Oct 26 2009, 01:33 AM

[qman]

i was using (mostly) at Head Monster 88. which was excellent.

it is a nice all round ski for free skiing. wide enough to help in the powder but still holds and edge with a GS side cut.

also really well made, wood core, metal topsheet etc.

you will break skis occasionally on a sit ski.

[clockwork1]

i know this is sort of in the wrong topic box but does any one have any adzise on what they found was the best hotel for the money, being a wheelchair user and getting to the slopes at Winter Park, Colorado, USA. any info would be good

[Alexandre]

In Europe the Tessier Scarver is becoming very popular. It's not very cheap but when you see how it works... Amazing!!!
You can adjust many things on this frame (seating angle, suspension movement, center of gravity...) so each skier find his best configuration, it's like a custom made one but you can try all adjustments. Also the shock absorber is excellent.
That's what I bought and I have never skied something like this before. It really worth its price.
Many European competitors (from national teams) have changed for it. I heard that in USA a member of the national team (I don't remember his name) has changed for it last season and had good results (podiums I think) with it at the national championship and at the world cup. Maybe someone knows it better than me. (I have never had the chance to ski in USA!).
That's for me the best sitski ever. Try it if you can!