One thing I have noticed in all ads is when a seller sells their used wheelchair they always mention how much they paid for it , retail. Another thing is how these insurance companies jack up all these medical supplies and wheelchairs to these astronomical prices where it seems almost criminal. post-1-1155895221.gif Some People make it seem like they paid every last cent for their chair without the help of insurance and expect half of the retail price which is still unreasonable. I just wish that the insurance companies wouldn't inflate these prices so the small guy wouldn't have such a hard time.