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htwhlz97
This has come up several times with friends and family members and their thought of other people and sometimes kids in my wheelchair when I'm not in it. What are your thoughts, does this happen to you all, does it bother you more than your family or your family more than you?
bigsmiles
smile.gif Well not sure about the kids but i often sit in my boyfriends chair when hes not in. Why, do you find this annoying then?
Joed
My family occasionally sits in my chair when I'm on the couch, etc. If anyone else did, I'd be slightly annoyed, I think, if they didn't ask first. To me, it's just a courtesy...like asking for a light, instead of just grabbing up your lighter.

My son will ask first if he can take it for a spin...which is a rare occurance...as I have a hard time getting it back then.

Kids love my cane...I have a rule that they must ask first, as "I don't go around taking your legs from under you, do I?" tongue.gif Then I always make a big effort of trying to remove their legs. I also expect them to bring it back when they're finished, or if I need it. All in all, probably not a good practice, and I used to not let them, but I've found that children who aren't familiar with disability, will relax almost immediately when given the chance to examine this strange curiosity, and it opens up dialogue.
Tinbasher
QUOTE (htwhlz97 @ Sep 26 2006, 05:35 PM) *
This has come up several times with friends and family members and their thought of other people and sometimes kids in my wheelchair when I'm not in it. What are your thoughts, does this happen to you all, does it bother you more than your family or your family more than you?


Do you let people wear your shoes?

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russ1
My kids regularly play in my chair (or more commonly my spare chair), my 10yr old son is way better at back wheelbalancing and spinning than I am. My wife isn't keen it but that's more to do with the kids getting in the way than being in the chair - or at least that's what she says it is. I've also been known to jump out to let mates (usually a bit the worse for a couple of pints) try back wheel balancing as that can be a real laugh to watch. If I'm on the sofa I'm happy for someone to sit in the chair next to me to talk to me - somehow it sort of signals their acceptance of the chair but I don't think anyone has ever even tried to do it without asking unless they're family or close friends who know it's ok.

Funnyest thing was when a friend let an AB use his chair on a dance floor in a club where we were with a group of disabled skiers - she (the AB) managed for a couple of minutes on her back wheels before tipping over - lay on her back laughing for a moment until all the AB's on the dance floor rushed to her aid at which point she had to sheepishly stand up and admit she didn't actually need any help. biggrin.gif

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jane
all the young people in my youth club have had a go in my NHS chair - they all found it difficult which was interesting. Im not letting them in my new chair though - don't want it broke.

no one else has ever really wanted too.
john d
when i'm not in my chair,everybody sits in mine.the only thing that really bothers me is i set my wheelchair at an angle so it is easy for me to get in it.and then somebody comes by and moves my wheelchair.
htwhlz97
QUOTE (russ1 @ Sep 26 2006, 01:36 PM) *
If I'm on the sofa I'm happy for someone to sit in the chair next to me to talk to me - somehow it sort of signals their acceptance of the chair but I don't think anyone has ever even tried to do it without asking unless they're family or close friends who know it's ok.



That has happened to me also and somehow there is a sense of connection, or feeling of "So this is what its like from this point of view". My daughters have used it to do chores around the house to experience what's its like for me of course they know that they cant (not) make their muscles move on command or to exactly know what it feels have the muscle loss. They did get a sense of how much the house can be rearranged to aid in the little things and suffice to say they dont like for me to sweep and mop because they tried it and seen the struggle they had to endure. (I dont exper the struggle cause its all natural for me now).

Joed I see the tension and the curiosity disappear also.

But it seems like the people that I know who are around me and happend to see someone else in it have more a problem, they happen to be AB's that might only know 1 person in a chair so it seems wrong or I get a sense that they see it as a taboo or something.
cvelusc
Initially (after my accident) I was insulted if anyone with perfectly functioning legs sat in my chair. I sure as hell didn't want to use the wc, and here they were taking the wc for a spin. But, after time went on I realized (just like some of the others have said) is that mostly they sat in the chair out of convenience or curiousity.

No real harm done.
Alin Steglinski
i usually say if you want a wheelchair GET YOUR OWN!!! seriously anyone can get a wheelchair or powerchair... as long as you have the cash. ive seen people with working legs riding around in high end power rigs why because they finally learned that life on wheels is better than life on legs.
cvelusc
QUOTE (Alin Steglinski @ Sep 27 2006, 02:51 AM) *
[snip]...because they finally learned that life on wheels is better than life on legs.

Nice perspective Alin!
Joed
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russ1 wrote: Funnyest thing was when a friend let an AB use his chair on a dance floor in a club where we were with a group of disabled skiers - she (the AB) managed for a couple of minutes on her back wheels before tipping over - lay on her back laughing for a moment until all the AB's on the dance floor rushed to her aid at which point she had to sheepishly stand up and admit she didn't actually need any help.


mfr_lol.gif Great story....I truly was LOL. I'll be giggling about that one for the rest of the night. laugh.gif

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htwhlz97 wrote: My daughters have used it to do chores around the house to experience what's its like for me


I keep asking my husband to sit in my chair and cook supper, just once, in my 'accessibility-hostile' kitchen. He has no idea. I can hear him cussin' already. ranting2.gif nopity.gif tongue.gif

Btw, how great is that, that your daughters made that effort on your behalf? What a blessing. And they're right, the sweeping/mopping/vacuuming is the most difficult/frustrating for me too.
juls
I don't mind friends and family taking my wheelchair for a spin but only if they're not too heavy!! I only weigh 44 kilograms so i worry about my cushion smile.gif
LadyPilot
I'm a bit sensitive about this.

I don't mind children sitting in it because they're curious but anyone who asks if they have a go at doing wheelies I say no. Its sort of superstitious for me that being in a wheelchair is not something that is "fun" and therefore if they go overbackwards and hurt themselves Id be upset.

I know of a case where a para was showing off doing wheelies and he went over backwards breaking his neck. Very sad.
miss piggy
My brother-in-law lets me sit in his chair . He wonted me to try to understand what it is like for him everyday.What a eye opener for me it was hard work .All his brother's have been in it too and friends . I think it's a personal choice as long as they don't joke about in it
DaveP
I don't mind people sitting in or trying out my chair - I think it's all part of the process of "educating" others. Kids love it! When I take my step-daughter and nephew to the cinema, they always want to mess around in my chair during the intervals and I get them to do wheelies etc. They're getting so good they can go down a few steps!

People see them playing around and having fun, and this provokes new thoughts (I think...) Rather than a wheelchair being something "so serious", it's a source of fun and laughter.
htwhlz97
QUOTE (cvelusc @ Sep 26 2006, 06:02 PM) *
Initially (after my accident) I was insulted if anyone with perfectly functioning legs sat in my chair. I sure as hell didn't want to use the wc, and here they were taking the wc for a spin. But, after time went on I realized (just like some of the others have said) is that mostly they sat in the chair out of convenience or curiousity.

No real harm done.


I think I felt alot like you at first also. Then I think as I my comfort level in the chair became better those feeling started to disappear, and there was a no harm no foul type attitude.

But I think other people had a problem with it. They were like you really shouldnt let people in your chair its not a toy or something to play around, or pretend (even if they were not playing in & they were just sitting in it) so I started to feel like I was wrong.

I really dont mind it. I guess it goes along with my kinda laid back attidute I tend not to sweat the small stuff. I will let someone in it if I happen to be on the couch and theres no more seating around like fight nights, (boxing) for example. I will tell certain kids (except ones that have more experience like mine) that I would prefer that they not try not to do wheelies because it does hurt when you fall and you can really hurt your head. I've fallen backwards before and its no fun., I let the little ones because I think they really cant do a wheelie any way and its kinda of an education for them.

I see so many kids not exposed to the disabled and that exposure just helps them our overall. They tend not to stare and be a bit more friendly.

LadyPilot your example just reinforced that for me (especially with the wrong kids like daredevils) Thanks. Did that give him additional cord injuries or is he still a para?
Avocado Baby
When I was a kid, loads of people wanted to have a go in my chair. I only used to let people if I trusted them and knew I'd get it back. Some people just didn't seem to realise how frustrating it was and that I was completely screwed if they wouldn't let me have it back! boxing.gif doh.gif I don't so much have that problem now I'm older but I am careful who I let have a go! tongue.gif

I really like it when my brother gets in my chair and wheels around and does wheelies in it! smile.gif I feel a sense of pride that he's so cool and accepting. specool.gif Kinda difficult to explain. It is also a bonding thing, definitely cos it's a shared experience
htwhlz97
QUOTE (Pink Ali @ Sep 27 2006, 10:09 AM) *
Kinda difficult to explain. It is also a bonding thing, definitely cos it's a shared experience


I definitly feel you!
wheeels
I let people sit in and use my chair all the time, as long as they ask or I offer it up first.
At work I transfer into a regular chair with my seat cushion and leave my chair for other to use if they want to sit.
I let my kids use the chair when I'm not in it.
My wife doesn't like to use it.

I think that part of breaking down barriers is allowing others to experience it first hand, I would rather have someone get an idea of what I go through then just stare and wonder.
htwhlz97
QUOTE (wheeels @ Sep 27 2006, 10:20 AM) *
I let people sit in and use my chair all the time, as long as they ask or I offer it up first.
At work I transfer into a regular chair with my seat cushion and leave my chair for other to use if they want to sit.
I let my kids use the chair when I'm not in it.
My wife doesn't like to use it.

I think that part of breaking down barriers is allowing others to experience it first hand, I would rather have someone get an idea of what I go through then just stare and wonder.


My sentiments exactly
xMaddiex
mine and jasons family spend more time in jasons chair than he does! he's never a problem with other people going in it, as lond as it doesnt get scratched! i tend to sit in his chair a lot, either on his lap, or, as we both have big families, its usually the last seat left in the house!
LadyPilot
QUOTE (htwhlz97 @ Sep 27 2006, 05:57 PM) *
LadyPilot your example just reinforced that for me (especially with the wrong kids like daredevils) Thanks. Did that give him additional cord injuries or is he still a para?


He's now a quad. sad.gif
htwhlz97
QUOTE (LadyPilot @ Sep 27 2006, 01:29 PM) *
QUOTE (htwhlz97 @ Sep 27 2006, 05:57 PM) *



LadyPilot your example just reinforced that for me (especially with the wrong kids like daredevils) Thanks. Did that give him additional cord injuries or is he still a para?


He's now a quad. sad.gif


Oh my gosh that is devastating. I just might rethink that whole thing that is extremely sad. Who would've thought uh? Just when you think that the worst has already happened to you, then came that.
cvelusc
QUOTE (LadyPilot @ Sep 27 2006, 09:29 PM) *
[snip]
He's now a quad. sad.gif

That's really sad, LadyPilot. Wheelies are probably the only thing that keep me sane when I'm following the misses around hunting for clothes/shoes.
gsp23
I'm pretty new to a wheelchair but it doesnt bother me for my nieces and nephews, etc to use it as I instruct them to not try doing any tricks just to roll around and not rough housing with it. My boyfriend on the other hand could have been an issue but luckily will not be...

When I was in the hospital they started me with a 20" chair then they changed me to an 18" chair and then the inpatient rehab finally got me to a 16" chair (which is my correct size) The 20" chair was comfortable for him and the 18" was a bit snug, the 16" he couldnt fit in. Also he weighs approx 300lbs and since the chairs are only rated for 250 lbs I don't want him wrecking anything. When I was in the hospital, my boyfriend sat in a wheelchair and kept trying to do wheelies every time he was at the hospital, I don't think he ever even sat in a regular chair there. Just glad he is a bigger guy otherwise he would probably hurt himself in my chair and I would have to argue with him to get it back so I could move around!
sandyrun
Initially I would sit in my b/f's w/c to watch tv with him when he was in bed (he can only get up couple times a day for @ 2 hrs. each). He didn't have a problem with it but he checked with the "cushion ppl" (it's one with the "air cells") and they advised that no one other than he should be sitting in it. I guess my sitting in it would disrupt his "booty impression" (for lack of better way to say it). Anyway, depending on the type of cushion you have, might be something to think about.
Colleen
My husband is very comfortable with allowing others- family and friends sit in his chair. His sons and nephews have all taken turns over the years learning wheelies and taking a spill or two when learning.

When we first met and starting dating, I had way more of a problem with others sitting in his chair(s) then he did. With time and discussions, I have eased off on my annoyment with it. He has made me realize that it is about acceptance and understanding for AB's and what he goes through daily, just as so many of you have mentioned.

My kids and our grandkids are now learning what its like to sit in it and tool around the house with his spare chair.
mrsE
My neices had a great time in my chair when I am not in it - we used to have to time them or they would start arguing about who had had the longest go. They even tried to take the dog for a walk with the chair and found out how tiring it is. They took turns at pushing each other. Even my dog used to sit in m chair when I transferred to the sunlounger or bed or bath. I don't care who uses it as long as I get it back when I want it back. I now have a spare chair which they still like to play with when they come over. When my husband broke his ankle and had a big opp on it, he used my spare chair to get around and found out just how hard it is to do the housework (especially hoovering) from a chair.

I know my chair is very personnal and set up for my own comfort and also know I would be lost without it, but it is just a chair and not my legs.
htwhlz97
QUOTE (mrsE @ Sep 28 2006, 09:30 AM) *
but it is just a chair and not my legs.


Very good point!
LadyPilot
Not sure if this counts, but my cat ignores the "10 second rule" and is on it immediatley I vacate it. Nothing to do with heat because she has her own heat pad on the bed. She never sits on my lap. Funny old cat. dunno.gif
htwhlz97
Lady pilot, it sure does, cause my animals love my chair, I have two cats and they are the same, but they do like being on my lap also. But I usually have to put a pillow on the seat so they wont puncture the cushion when they start kneeding on it. I feel so bad when I have to wake them up cause I have to use it. So I try to pick up the pillow with them on it so I dont wake them up. I know, they are too spoiled. I used to have a mesh net under my chair and they would fight over it to get a turn. Now I just got a mini weenie and she likes to climb on my feet for a ride. All my animals in the past love it ,I dont know whats up with that?
milosh
i allow people to sit in my W/C. as long as they give it back and place it inthe same position they have found it.

my sister especially loves it. ;) some of ex's loved it too.

while i have still used power chair, everyone loved having a ride! ;) my mom liked it too. ;)

it's nice not to treat it as a big deal... then people can see it from more positive viewpoint.
Joed
We recently got a new kitten after my 12 y/o cat passed away, and he also loves to ride on my chair. He'll perch on the head rest like a bird, sometimes jumping on while I'm already in motion. Needless to say, the head rest feels like a page out of a braille book. He has already learned, however, to get clear of the wheels in record time. He also likes to hitch a ride when I'm outside in my scooter, as there are several neighborhood dogs around. He hunkers down under the space below the seat where he's nice and hidden, until he sees something he wants to investigate, then it's right back on as soon as he hears that I'm taking off again.
juls
When my dog isn't sitting on my lap, he lays under the wheelchair..as soon as he hears me take the brake off he runs clear of the wheels. I accidently ran him over a few times before he worked it out sad.gif
I've noticed most animals like hiding under the chair if they're feeling insecure...unfortunately snakes seem to think it's a good spot to hide as well mfr_omg.gif yikes.gif thankfully no bites....yet!
John Anderson
Sometimes I do, when I'm not in it, friends tend to want to try it out and stuff and I usually let them.

Just only if they have to put it back like they left them, it's either that or I make sure they don't run off wit it! laugh.gif
xMaddiex
i sit on jasons lap a lot...if they counts...

my dog loves to sit on his lap aswell, which is kinda funny since he's this huge husky alsatian type thing, and its sent jason flying backwards a fair few times!
John Anderson
QUOTE (xMaddiex @ Oct 2 2006, 09:37 AM) *
i sit on jasons lap a lot...if they counts...

my dog loves to sit on his lap aswell, which is kinda funny since he's this huge husky alsatian type thing, and its sent jason flying backwards a fair few times!


I wish I got girls sitting on my lap laugh.gif tongue.gif

Yea I got 2 Huskies and a German Shepard, I would love to have them kind of "sit" on it, but Colonel would def say no, cuz that's against their "training" laugh.gif
htwhlz97
UH OHH Livewriter better watch your back someone has an eye on your girl! Just kidding, you have alot to be envied. God Bless you both.
livewriter
Glad you like her. Is one reason I married her. You should know she's married.. Thanks for the compliment though.
livewriter
I quadnapped her.

I'm glad we give you hope. Maybe you can grow up to be just like me. (eminem 200?)

Work hard and be who you are and life will bless you with many things.
Alin Steglinski
QUOTE (livewriter @ Oct 2 2006, 08:32 PM) *
I quadnapped her.

I'm glad we give you hope. Maybe you can grow up to be just like me. (eminem 200?)

Work hard and be who you are and life will bless you with many things.


from this point on you will be nicknamed the guy with the super hawt wife.
livewriter
From this day forward you shall be called Alin of chairomia
bigsmiles
yikes.gif All this and its not even 9pm yet smile.gif
livewriter
Ya know oddly enough nobody ab ever hits on her when we're together. guess they see the loveeeee. and big wedding ring.....

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bigsmiles
Thats nice and lovely to see that the commitment of marrige was important to you both, considering that alot of people dont believe in it today.....to young love clap.gif
hisamsmith
My 2 little sisters, best friend, her siblings, and my baby sister's entire girl scout troop have sat in my manual wheelchair. The girl scout troop tried to do things like reach a coke from the bottom of a fridge without moving thier legs. When I was a teenager my friends often sat in both of my wheelchairs sometiimes with me on their laps to drive if it was my electric chair. We also used it as an extra seat when I was hospitalized. Never bothered me.
ruth
The kids arent allowed to sit in my chair any more (they have fallen out backwards too many times). Hubby occasionally sits in my chair (although very gingerly as he has fallen out backwards too on a fair few times doh.gif )

6 or 7 guys from where I used to work have sat in my chair, as I had to teach them how to do something I could, so I decided to teach them how to do wheelies.

I dont really care, so long as my chair is returned to me! Its just not many people do coz my chair is very tippy, and that seems to put a lot of people off.
Alin Steglinski
QUOTE (livewriter @ Oct 2 2006, 08:40 PM) *
From this day forward you shall be called Alin of chairomia


thanks smile.gif i shall notify CNN of the nickname change for both of us biggrin.gif... i hope i get a quadlover!
xMaddiex
QUOTE (John Anderson @ Oct 2 2006, 06:11 PM) *
QUOTE (xMaddiex @ Oct 2 2006, 09:37 AM) *

i sit on jasons lap a lot...if they counts...

my dog loves to sit on his lap aswell, which is kinda funny since he's this huge husky alsatian type thing, and its sent jason flying backwards a fair few times!


I wish I got girls sitting on my lap laugh.gif tongue.gif

Yea I got 2 Huskies and a German Shepard, I would love to have them kind of "sit" on it, but Colonel would def say no, cuz that's against their "training" laugh.gif


awwww, i never even tried to train Tobey (the dog!) i thought it was kinda harsh since his name is kinda pathetic for a dog...anyways, yeah, i'm the only girl allowed to sit on jason's lap though! haha tongue.gif
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