[Scribbler]

CR_L1, on Aug 17 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

Not afraid myself, nearly had that ride twice before...
Perhaps it will be third time lucky/ or unlucky (which ever way you look at it)
Meet ya in the warm place Scribb's

So Essex it is then CR....

[BalancedInteger]

I've had little reason to fear death... believe it or not, I had a little glimpse of the here-after in the hour or so after the car accident that crushed my spinal cord. Knowing full well that there is something after this life has set my mind at ease... when my time comes, I'll still fight for every breath, but I'll be alright knowing what is waiting for me on the other side.

Beyond that, fear of death is a perfectly natural thing. We humans are wired for survival, and fear of death facilitates the survival instinct. Of course, I'm not sure if this counts for the suicidal... but that kind of weakness is best purged from the rolls anyway. If that sounds callous, tough... I've had a family member eat a bullet the hard way, it ticked me off more than anything else.

[topperf]

'' but that kind of weakness is best purged from the rolls anyway. If that sounds callous, tough... I've had a family member eat a bullet the hard way, it ticked me off more than anything else.''

- I'm sorry for you that you consider suicide such a weakness, especially since someone close to you killed him/herself.
There are so many variations of peoples reasons, not wanting to live anymore.. So simplifying the issue is kind of a shame in my view.
I've encountered people that later committed suicide that I consider very, very brave.

[Scribbler]

topperf, on Aug 20 2009, 12:16 PM, said:

'' but that kind of weakness is best purged from the rolls anyway. If that sounds callous, tough... I've had a family member eat a bullet the hard way, it ticked me off more than anything else.''

- I'm sorry for you that you consider suicide such a weakness, especially since someone close to you killed him/herself.
There are so many variations of peoples reasons, not wanting to live anymore.. So simplifying the issue is kind of a shame in my view.
I've encountered people that later committed suicide that I consider very, very brave.

I'm with you Topper..

[allis53ca]

...i have already died, and although i wasn't ready, i was aware and made my peace and said my goodbyes....i'm not bummed i was eventually revived (crippled), its a bummer to make your peace and say goodbye then have to eventually do it over.....i don't fear death, just the manner, as seems to be the majority thought in this thread.........i don't fear the other side, as i know now theres not, but thats okay too........i want to go quick when i go, but i don't want it to be a surprise.....imo, a dnr is the responsible and selfless option

This post has been edited by allis53ca: 20 August 2009 - 05:19 PM

[qbounce]

Damn right I fear death. I'm not ready to go. But when you're body's going through health issues, and no one is capeable of locating the cause, the idea lingers like a MOFO!!

Bravo for those who AREN'T afraid to die. Although, I question your sincerity.
We've all come face to face with it and lived . . . once. Can we tempt fate again and get away with it? I doubt it VERY much.

Meanwhile, I'll BRAVE through it like everyone else. But it doesn't mean I have to like it.

[E-DOG]

qbounce, on Aug 23 2009, 11:50 AM, said:

Damn right I fear death. I'm not ready to go. But when you're body's going through health issues, and no one is capeable of locating the cause, the idea lingers like a MOFO!!

Bravo for those who AREN'T afraid to die. Although, I question your sincerity.
We've all come face to face with it and lived . . . once. Can we tempt fate again and get away with it? I doubt it VERY much.

Meanwhile, I'll BRAVE through it like everyone else. But it doesn't mean I have to like it.

Quit bein' such a sissy! Let's jump into a moving wheat combine together.
Some say life is just a long winded intro to death anyway.

Come on, just you 'n me. It'll be fun, I promise.

E

[davjed]

you go first........

[Illinois Boy]

I want to be at ground zero when a huge Asteroid slams into earth........

Then me and E-DOG can take turns shoving pineapples up Hitler's ass in Hell.....

Jim

[carole338]

Afraid to die? Yeah..

[Yasko]

qbounce, on Aug 23 2009, 11:50 AM, said:

Damn right I fear death. I'm not ready to go. But when you're body's going through health issues, and no one is capeable of locating the cause, the idea lingers like a MOFO!!

Bravo for those who AREN'T afraid to die. Although, I question your sincerity.
We've all come face to face with it and lived . . . once. Can we tempt fate again and get away with it? I doubt it VERY much.

Meanwhile, I'll BRAVE through it like everyone else. But it doesn't mean I have to like it.

Well, there are still many things to be learn before we go bud! Yep, believe it or not, there are many who AREN'T afraid of death and I for sure won't question their sincerity.

[CR_L1]

What is there to be afraid of?

[noone]

Scribbler, on Aug 14 2009, 07:00 PM, said:

I'd like to die tonight in my sleep!....... Hang on!!!.. I've got a Cricket Club Luncheon on Sunday where I'll meet lots of friends, so maybe I can die Sunday night.... Arr!!!........But the plumbers are coming to finish changing my central heating on Monday, so that's out... Monday night it is then......... But!!!........Zdenka my lovely PA will be here on Tuesday, and I don't want to miss her beautiful smiling face...... Oh bugger it; I don't have the time to die.....

The nonsense written about the higher the injury the shorter you live is a load of I'm C4/5 for over 50 years and NEVER had a pressure sore. The only thing I'd like to add is that getting old with SCI isn't for wimps. I'll die when I'm good and ready..

you give me hope.really a quad over 50 years.keep on going

[noone]

edlee, on Aug 16 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

There's a Country and Western song I heard about an hour ago,,,, I don't know if it's the name or just a chorus in the song,, but it seems relevant to the topic. It goes " EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO TO HEAVEN,, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO GO NOW"

ed

so true ed

[Yasko]

noone, on Aug 24 2009, 09:33 AM, said:

edlee, on Aug 16 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

There's a Country and Western song I heard about an hour ago,,,, I don't know if it's the name or just a chorus in the song,, but it seems relevant to the topic. It goes " EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO TO HEAVEN,, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO GO NOW"

ed

so true ed

Who wants to go to heaven when everything we like is in hell (booze, girls, all my friends, rock & roll, parties, fun, fun, and more fun! Have I mentioned beer?)

This post has been edited by Yasko: 25 August 2009 - 05:22 PM

[edlee]

Well Yas,,, if what they say is true,,,, that wouldn't be hell, then, would it? That would be heaven to you.

How about twenty or thirty pressure sores,,, that hurt as bad as they look,,, the inability to control your bowels or bladder,, and maybe a 100 pound wheelchair with flat tires??? Wait a minute,,,,, maybe this is hell,,, wonder what I did in a previous life.
ed

[Apparelyzed]

Afraid to die, no ... Afraid of the process, possibly, depends how good the drugs are at the time or if it's nice and quick!

Simon

[carole338]

Depends on the drugs, there you are right. It would make it a lot easier.

[Yasko]

edlee, on Aug 25 2009, 10:00 AM, said:

Well Yas,,, if what they say is true,,,, that wouldn't be hell, then, would it? That would be heaven to you.

How about twenty or thirty pressure sores,,, that hurt as bad as they look,,, the inability to control your bowels or bladder,, and maybe a 100 pound wheelchair with flat tires??? Wait a minute,,,,, maybe this is hell,,, wonder what I did in a previous life.
ed

Ed, oh man, we are already in hell, damn it!

[Illinois Boy]

Yasko, on Aug 25 2009, 12:24 PM, said:

edlee, on Aug 25 2009, 10:00 AM, said:

Well Yas,,, if what they say is true,,,, that wouldn't be hell, then, would it? That would be heaven to you.

How about twenty or thirty pressure sores,,, that hurt as bad as they look,,, the inability to control your bowels or bladder,, and maybe a 100 pound wheelchair with flat tires??? Wait a minute,,,,, maybe this is hell,,, wonder what I did in a previous life.
ed

Ed, oh man, we are already in hell, damn it!

OK, Where's Adolf hiding..... I've got a nice pineapple for him........

Jim

[E-DOG]

Illinois Boy, on Aug 23 2009, 02:27 PM, said:

I want to be at ground zero when a huge Asteroid slams into earth........

Then me and E-DOG can take turns shoving pineapples up Hitler's ass in Hell.....

Jim

Ah, but you're not kinky.

[LuckyinKentucky]

Afraid to die, hell no. More afraid to not live...which can ironically result in the prior.

[Scribbler]

I want to die while asleep like my Grandfather, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.

[faribeauty]

I'm not really afraid to die. I mean sure it scares the crap out of me just cause I wonder what could possibly be next. I'm more worried about when I'm older who will take care of my loved ones ya know? They're the real reason I smile and actually push through life just because they love me and I love them.

[The Black Sheep]

I'm afraid, but I think it's about what I'm leaving behind and how it'll happen, and not so much the being-gone part. I got married last February and my husband and I have become so dependent on one another. I don't know what I'd do without him, or what he'd do without me. I'm much more afraid for him if I were to die. Same with my parents and pets.

and who would pay my student loans?

This post has been edited by The Black Sheep: 10 November 2009 - 04:17 PM

[Tetracyclone]

I make a distinction- my body is afraid to die. As E-dog says, we will shit our britches every time. The mind? Well, in the day after my accident I had the choice. I was so badly injured that the simple will to die would have brought on pneumonia. But two influences; my mate was there very much wanting me to live regardless of my state; and I had NOT done my homework of estate planning. I know from what happened in the past that my mate is incompetent at handling money issues, particularly when grieving. He lost 70% of the value of his grandmother's estate before I came along and rescued the last 30k. I want him provided for and I want to not leave messes for others. With those 2 things in play I succumbed to my mates desire to keep me here. Ever trying to please others. We are for one another, first and foremost.

I had a wonderful adventurous life in a wonderful body. Whacked at 58, I can go whenever, and am finally getting my homework done. The lawyer comes next week.

I'm not sorry I'm alive, but I don't think of it as my own agenda. Pleasures are appreciated, and for me pain is extremely interesting. Always was.

[MxDisasterGrl]

I guess other than the way i'll go, and then there's leaving my children to mourn behind...my big next question would be where am i going? If i'm going upstairs then great! I'll be walking w/ other loved ones, waiting on the rest of my family. If i'm going downstairs "OH CRAP", my worst fear would then be living eternally in my wheelchair. It would be kinda like, "wait devil, i'm still in my chair?? Ugghh...you don't have to do anymore "torchering" here, i promise, i'm miserable enough, thank you..".

I just have the fear of leaving my lil girl and lil boy. I pray they are at least adults and can take care of themselves. No one else to do it if something happened to me first.

Pwuff, on Nov 10 2009, 12:11 PM, said:

I make a distinction- my body is afraid to die. As E-dog says, we will shit our britches every time. The mind? Well, in the day after my accident I had the choice. I was so badly injured that the simple will to die would have brought on pneumonia. But two influences; my mate was there very much wanting me to live regardless of my state; and I had NOT done my homework of estate planning. I know from what happened in the past that my mate is incompetent at handling money issues, particularly when grieving. He lost 70% of the value of his grandmother's estate before I came along and rescued the last 30k. I want him provided for and I want to not leave messes for others. With those 2 things in play I succumbed to my mates desire to keep me here. Ever trying to please others. We are for one another, first and foremost.

I had a wonderful adventurous life in a wonderful body. Whacked at 58, I can go whenever, and am finally getting my homework done. The lawyer comes next week.

I'm not sorry I'm alive, but I don't think of it as my own agenda. Pleasures are appreciated, and for me pain is extremely interesting. Always was.

Pwuff, i thought it was you that said nobility=BS!!!! Sure was nobile of you to stick around for him girlie!!! lol, just being funny.

[Dave Bishopstone]

Post birth, death is the one certainty in life - being afraid to die comes from our fear of the unknown, i.e. whether there is an existence beyond this life, my belief and hope through faith is that there is, but if not then I won't know about it will I !

I guess my main hope is that at the very least I will live on in the fond memories of those I have loved and left behind.

[greybeard]

Dave Bishopstone, on Nov 10 2009, 10:19 PM, said:

I guess my main hope is that at the very least I will live on in the fond memories of those I have loved and left behind.

I guess that is all any of us can realistically hope for.

At least we have the certain knowledge that the stuff from which we are made will one day return to being stardust, which is where it all came from to start with. I rather like that.

[StillFingers]

I've stared death in the face twice. Once felt the tide gently toss me about, precious air escape burning/collapsing lungs, a mind blurred beyond reason; taking that last deep breath while under the deep pacific blue. Soon to be fish bate, instead I breathe air, helping hands enabling me to continue life's loves, joys, and pains.

Fear death...no...want to die...no. Death is but another moment of my journey, that I do not control. As for my sincerity...well that's mine isn't it. Jerry

A singer/song writer, Bobby Darin, from the fifties noted...

“There is nothing wrong with being afraid---but there is nothing more wrong than allowing that to be your master.”

This post has been edited by StillFingers: 10 November 2009 - 11:31 PM