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[Kaz=1983]

Yeah I know most people are wanting to know how to lose it but really need to gain weight ans seeing asthough I can't work out most of my muslces above the waist and below it will be fat not muslce ... I know this and I know putting on pure fat isn't recommended but I have my reason;

1. I have no fat on my body...

2. I have lost nearly all my muslces around my chest, back, shoulders and forarms/triceps [and when I say nearly all I really mean it].

3. I have gain some muslce in areas I can and am the strongest I ever been whilst being in a chair.

The funny thing is I have lost much weight over the last 3 years, I weight 52 kgs but my height is 6'1 ... I know that the it's normal to lose muslces in areas you that are paralyiesd but I'm starting worry because I my body is boney everywere and when I knock any part of my arm against the wall/table or anything else hard it is really uncomfortable, it kinda feels like when you hit your funny bone - through out the day all I think about not knocking arms against anything, it's f*@king horrible and all anybody says is it's natural but that is hard to beleive seeing as I have NO muslce or fat around most of my chest/back and have NO muscle around my elbow and along my forearms ...

Seeing as my weight has stayed the same feel as I'm going crazy and starting to lose the plot and it's crossed my mind more than that if I could do it killing myself might be the way to go - I slightly joking there but it has crossed mt mind none the less ...

Also everytime I see a doctor about it they just say your weight is stable and there's to worry about or send me to a dietition who just asks if I eating properly, my answer is yes because I'm eating what and same amout of foods my dad is eating ... also know doctor will advice me how to gain weight or in my case fat, so seeing a doctor which I multiple time feels point-less IMO ...

I really don't know what to do, I look like a skeleton there I said it ...

EDIT; and so you know I've adjusted to life in a chair, its just this weight issuse thats driving me crazy.

Edited by Kaz=1983, 01 February 2009 - 05:54 AM.

[longhaul]

Excessive Weight Loss Can Be A Bad Thing

ScienceDaily (Jan. 23, 2009) — Doctors are not doing enough to pick up on problems with excessive weight loss, says a Saint Louis University physician who helped draft recent guidelines to diagnose the condition called "cachexia" (kuh-kex-

"In sick people, weight loss is an important indicator of disease and potentially impending death," said John Morley, M.D., an endocrinologist and director of the division of geriatric medicine at Saint Louis University School of Medicine.

"Cachexia is an extraordinary problem for people who are having other health problems, yet this is something that many physicians don't pay attention to."

A group of physicians and scientists agreed on a definition of cachexia, which was published in the December edition of the medical journal, Clinical Nutrition.

"The definition is important because it gives physicians the guidelines to make a diagnosis and treat the condition," Morley said. "A definition of cachexia also makes it easier for scientists to conduct research and potentially develop new therapies for the problem."

About half of hospitalized patients and between 10 and 15 percent of sick patients who see a doctor have cachexia. The condition accompanies diseases such as cancer, congestive heart failure, HIV, diabetes, kidney failure and COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).

Adults with cachexia lose weight and children don't grow. Muscle mass melts away, and those with cachexia also may lose fat.

Those who traditionally have had difficulty taking off weight and suddenly find the pounds melting off should beware, Morley said. They may be ill and could get even sicker as they become weaker and weaker.

"Cachexia should be seen as a wasting disease that requires specialized treatment from a physician who is familiar with the problem," Morley said.

The researchers clarified the definition of cachexia by noting it is always linked to an underlying disease. They differentiated it from starvation; loss of muscle mass that comes with aging; depression; thyroid problems; and the body's difficulty in absorbing nutrients. Rather, cachexia is a complicated metabolic syndrome that is often associated with anorexia, inflammation, insulin resistance and increased muscle protein breakdown.

[Kaz=1983]

Cheers for that - only thing is I'm not getting weaker and the muslces I do use are going from strength to strength ... weird.

Edited by Kaz=1983, 01 February 2009 - 08:22 AM.

[edlee]

If you problem is related to a medical condition,,, then a doctor is the only way to go,,,,,

otherwise you could use the method I used to go from 180 lb to 240 lbs in a year,,,,,

Potato chips,,,, french fries,,, any and all fast food,,,,less active lifestyle.

The problem you might have is being able to stop this regimen when you reach your desired weight. I certainly couldn't...

I don't mean to denigrate your problem,,,,, it;s just that I ,, and many others,, would love to have it,,,, for a while, at least.

Putting fat onto an otherwise healthy body is simply the opposite of taking it off,,,, in your case it means taking in more calories than you burn,,, regardless of you metabolism,, there has to be a tipping point. Just be sure you don't tip too far.
ed

[StellaLAtella]

Hi Kaz,
If only there were fat transplants like organ transplants.........I would willingly be a donor.
I apologize, I don't mean to belittle your situation. I unfortunately, have the opposite problem.
Take Care,
Stella

[nomis]

Drink a bottle of stout a day. Guinness. Puts on weight, flushes the bladder, and you're so happy you don't care what your weight is. Can't lose. If it's too bitter for your taste, top with raspberry concentrate.

[Kaz=1983]

nomis, on Feb 2 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

Drink a bottle of stout a day. Guinness. Puts on weight, flushes the bladder, and you're so happy you don't care what your weight is. Can't lose. If it's too bitter for your taste, top with raspberry concentrate.

Makes sense that does ...

Oh and StellaLAtella if only they did, eh?

[Kaz=1983]

Just been thinking about this ... it's strange because not weighing 65 kgs but instead weighing 55 kgs isn't a bad thing, it just being quite thin doesn't look great and plays tricks on your you if you think you have loss weight in certain areas of your body but the scales are the same and if I don't put on weight today, I'll put it on in 20 years time when I'm 55 yrs old ... I suppose it is just a case of is there anything medical going on that might affect my ability to gain weight I have find that out, the next step if I'm healthly which I feel I am is to sort out a ideal diet to gain weight ...

Edited by Kaz=1983, 02 February 2009 - 12:56 PM.

[nomis]

I've always been on the lean side and no matter what I ate or how I exercised my weight never varied much. Now I'm 60 and in the last few years I seem to have put on a bit more weight - all in the wrong place around my middle. Maybe you can enjoy what you now have.

[Kaz=1983]

OK just seen the doctors, they reckon it's normal that I've lost 10-12 kgs - this is because I'm fairly inactive [apart from byseps and one side of forearm] this from being a quad ... so it seems it ain't a medical problem as such but a mixture of things - don't know what, just that I don't like the way it makes me feel mentally or physically ... it is a really annoying situation and unlike gaining weight it isn't nice watching your body waste away before your eyes - it's f*@ked up ...

So since being to see the docs, I've been thinking is it just a case of eating the foods to put on some fat to counter the muslce/fat loss? To do that I need to find my tipping point, how many calouries/protein/carbs I need to daily to put on x amount of weight each week ... I know people will say you shouldn't try to put fat on but in my case lit seems the only optition if I want get some padding for my arm and chest bones ... It's just that I find it hard to play sports fore xample because if I hit my arms it hurts alot and the feeling of bone knocking against metal/concrete/wood doesn't feel all that nice ...

Hell I would like to play wheelchair rugby again but I can't until I put some fat on around my muslces so when I hit them it doesn't vibrate up my arm like when you hit to hard objects together ...

So were should I go from here, I can't live worried that I'm going to knock my arms on hard object and that includes my hard, boney chest ... it is limiting from playing sport or even getting out and about friend because knocking arms/chest doing car transfer is pain-full.

... I need help.

edlee, on Feb 2 2009, 05:54 AM, said:

If you problem is related to a medical condition,,, then a doctor is the only way to go,,,,,

otherwise you could use the method I used to go from 180 lb to 240 lbs in a year,,,,,

Potato chips,,,, french fries,,, any and all fast food,,,,less active lifestyle.

The problem you might have is being able to stop this regimen when you reach your desired weight. I certainly couldn't...

I don't mean to denigrate your problem,,,,, it;s just that I ,, and many others,, would love to have it,,,, for a while, at least.

Putting fat onto an otherwise healthy body is simply the opposite of taking it off,,,, in your case it means taking in more calories than you burn,,, regardless of you metabolism,, there has to be a tipping point. Just be sure you don't tip too far.
ed

Maybe chips is the way to go...

Edited by Kaz=1983, 05 February 2009 - 05:34 AM.

[longhaul]

Kaz how many calories are you eating, how much and what kind of fat, how much protein.

[Texas Angel Ang]

I have been having the same issue... my weight fluctuates all the time! I hate using the word "skinny" but there I said it I am skinny and boney which has caused some skin breakdown.

I went to my plastic surgeon (he did my surgery for me on a pressure sore, I go to him anytime I see some type of skin breakdown) and I told him there has got to be something that he can prescribe me to help me gain weight!!! I can literally go all day long without eating and it won't faze me.

Also I get bored with my food, I'll take a couple of bites, then I want something different. I have always had a high metabolism and was thin before my accident but now it's not something I can really play around with, healthwise.

He prescribed me megace... it helps you create an appetite... today's the first day I tried it. We will see what happens. I'm about to eat right now LOL. If this doesn't work I'll try the stout normis recommended :-)