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[Valo]

I've just taken delivery of my new Kuschall K4 yesterday and it's excellent

The Kuschall came with standard nasty 24" metal spoke wheels and I would really like to switch my 24" Spinergy Spox wheels from my RGK over to it, the problem is the axel pins from my RGK are to big to lock the wheels to my Kuschall. Can someone tell me what size of pins I need to get my Spinergy wheels onto my new chair?

Also if someone could recommend a good cheap supplier to buy them from in the UK that would be great too!

Edited by Valo, 22 March 2009 - 04:45 PM.

[ems]

GBL will help you , ask for ian laker, he's great with mathcing bits on chairs

http://www.gblwheelchairs.com/
Freephone 0500 901 690
info@gblwheelchairs.com


I opted for the cheap nasty wheels on my topend crossfire, as I seem to have collected 4 sets of spinergies in the last few years... talk to Ian, or any of the others there.. They are all in chairs you see, so they understand everything!!!!

[Valo]

ems, on Mar 19 2009, 09:23 PM, said:

GBL will help you , ask for ian laker, he's great with mathcing bits on chairs

http://www.gblwheelchairs.com/
Freephone 0500 901 690
info@gblwheelchairs.com


I opted for the cheap nasty wheels on my topend crossfire, as I seem to have collected 4 sets of spinergies in the last few years... talk to Ian, or any of the others there.. They are all in chairs you see, so they understand everything!!!!

Thanks for the info, unfortunately they wanted me to come in so they could have a look at the wheels and my chair...which is slightly difficult as I'm in Edinburgh and there in London! I've managed to find a local Kuschall dealer who is going to order me a pair of Kuschall Pins for Spinergy Wheels - problem sorted

Edited by Valo, 22 March 2009 - 04:45 PM.

[pikey]

Measure the bit of the pin that is poking out when you fix the Spinergy wheels to your Kuschall. Take that off the overall length of the pin and you will have your required pin length.

[brushyourteeth]

Can't you take out the axle pins from the Kuschall wheels, and put them in your Spinergys?

I searched the internet all weekend looking for axle pins to put my Spinergys on my Crossfire Off-road chair. Turns out I can just swap the axle pins and Bob's your uncle!

[greybeard]

I have seen many UK sites offering wheels and tyres, but have yet to find one that advertises that they sell Axle Pins listed by dimensions rather than wheel brand names. Can anyone post a link or two, please?

Added: Also, is it possible to get axle sleeves - if so where?

Edited by greybeard, 22 March 2009 - 11:44 PM.

[wheelywendy]

brushyourteeth, on Mar 22 2009, 11:23 PM, said:

Can't you take out the axle pins from the Kuschall wheels, and put them in your Spinergys?

I searched the internet all weekend looking for axle pins to put my Spinergys on my Crossfire Off-road chair. Turns out I can just swap the axle pins and Bob's your uncle!

that doesnt always work brushyourteeth as i've tried to put my spare outdoor wheels off my bromakin custom onto my davinci legettra compatta for when i've gone off road,
but the axles off the davinci with spinergy wheels are not the right length to put the bromakin wheels onto the same chair.
whilst i'm on here does anyone know if you have some spinergies but with wrong bearing size in them can the bearing be changed? a friend has offered me his old spinergies but my axlepins are thicker than his so wont go through. (hope this dont count as hyjacking a thread as its along similar lines? if it does i appologise)
wendy

Edited by wheelywendy, 22 March 2009 - 11:41 PM.

[Texaswheelz]

It doesn't work because some hubs on the wheels are thicker then others. But every pair of axles I've had has had a nut on the end that could be loosened or tightened thus shortening or lengthening the axle a bit.

[twisted_ophelia]

Texaswheelz, on Mar 22 2009, 09:49 PM, said:

It doesn't work because some hubs on the wheels are thicker then others. But every pair of axles I've had has had a nut on the end that could be loosened or tightened thus shortening or lengthening the axle a bit.

This is actually what I've been trying to do all weekend with a pair of axles for my chair but I can't seem to move the nut (though I keep referring to the nut as a "bolt", heh). I've been using an adjustable wrench but the thing won't move. Am I using the right tool? Or is it not moving because I'm just not strong enough?? All axles can be spaced as far as I know.

[Texaswheelz]

might be as far as it will go in the direction your trying to get it to go. It should be able to go one way or another, i'm sure it's possible though that some one could make one that the nut is welded on. Do you have any threads on the axle that the nut isn't covering? What are you doing to hold the axle from spinning? Pipe wrench should work fine for that.

[twisted_ophelia]

Texaswheelz, on Mar 23 2009, 02:14 AM, said:

might be as far as it will go in the direction your trying to get it to go. It should be able to go one way or another, i'm sure it's possible though that some one could make one that the nut is welded on. Do you have any threads on the axle that the nut isn't covering? What are you doing to hold the axle from spinning? Pipe wrench should work fine for that.

I'm trying to lengthen it again (it was previously shortened by a chair tech at the med supply place to fit my 26" knobby wheelset when the axles came with the 24" wheelset the chair is designed for--those axles just happened to work for the knobbies with the spacing of the nut). So I know it CAN move, I just can't seem to be able to get it. I'm not doing anything to hold the axle down and that was a big part of the problem, it kept spinning in my hand when I tried to move the nut but the chair tech didn't use anything to hold it down either, as far as I could tell. I don't think I have a pipe wrench.

Edited by twisted_ophelia, 23 March 2009 - 04:13 PM.

[greybeard]

twisted_ophelia, on Mar 23 2009, 04:12 PM, said:

Texaswheelz, on Mar 23 2009, 02:14 AM, said:

might be as far as it will go in the direction your trying to get it to go. It should be able to go one way or another, i'm sure it's possible though that some one could make one that the nut is welded on. Do you have any threads on the axle that the nut isn't covering? What are you doing to hold the axle from spinning? Pipe wrench should work fine for that.

I'm trying to lengthen it again (it was previously shortened by a chair tech at the med supply place to fit my 26" knobby wheelset when the axles came with the 24" wheelset the chair is designed for--those axles just happened to work for the knobbies with the spacing of the nut). So I know it CAN move, I just can't seem to be able to get it. I'm not doing anything to hold the axle down and that was a big part of the problem, it kept spinning in my hand when I tried to move the nut but the chair tech didn't use anything to hold it down either, as far as I could tell. I don't think I have a pipe wrench.

You should find two flat areas on the end of the shaft. If you have two adjustable spanners or a spanner for the nut, hold the flats in the adjustable while turning the nut.

[twisted_ophelia]

greybeard, on Mar 23 2009, 12:29 PM, said:

You should find two flat areas on the end of the shaft. If you have two adjustable spanners or a spanner for the nut, hold the flats in the adjustable while turning the nut.

Ok, no one laugh at me for asking this, but what's a spanner?? The tools I have here in the house are minimal, basically just to do very minor repairs on things. Ex hubby is popping by later on, he says he will take a look at them and try to adjust them but I'd really like to be able to learn to do this myself! It's a good thing to know!

Edited by twisted_ophelia, 23 March 2009 - 04:40 PM.

[greybeard]

twisted_ophelia, on Mar 23 2009, 04:39 PM, said:

greybeard, on Mar 23 2009, 12:29 PM, said:

You should find two flat areas on the end of the shaft. If you have two adjustable spanners or a spanner for the nut, hold the flats in the adjustable while turning the nut.

Ok, no one laugh at me for asking this, but what's a spanner?? The tools I have here in the house are minimal, basically just to do very minor repairs on things. Ex hubby is popping by later on, he says he will take a look at them and try to adjust them but I'd really like to be able to learn to do this myself! It's a good thing to know!

Not laughing - the only stupid question is the one that's not asked.

Spanners are the tools made to fit the shape of nuts (usually six sided) so the nut can be turned easily. You may have another name for them over there (wrench??) They are made in various sizes, as are nuts. Get you ex to show you.

[twisted_ophelia]

greybeard, on Mar 23 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

Not laughing - the only stupid question is the one that's not asked.

Spanners are the tools made to fit the shape of nuts (usually six sided) so the nut can be turned easily. You may have another name for them over there (wrench??) They are made in various sizes, as are nuts. Get you ex to show you.

I actually googled spanner and it is indeed just another name for wrench so what I think you mean is an adjustable wrench which is what I've been using. But I only have the one. I'll ask him to bring another one, I'm sure he's got one!

[greybeard]

twisted_ophelia, on Mar 23 2009, 09:06 PM, said:

greybeard, on Mar 23 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

Not laughing - the only stupid question is the one that's not asked.

Spanners are the tools made to fit the shape of nuts (usually six sided) so the nut can be turned easily. You may have another name for them over there (wrench??) They are made in various sizes, as are nuts. Get you ex to show you.

I actually googled spanner and it is indeed just another name for wrench so what I think you mean is an adjustable wrench which is what I've been using. But I only have the one. I'll ask him to bring another one, I'm sure he's got one!

Spanners:
[attachment=5746:spanners.jpg]

Hope this helps.

[Rotarymotion]

greybeard, on Mar 22 2009, 11:36 PM, said:

I have seen many UK sites offering wheels and tyres, but have yet to find one that advertises that they sell Axle Pins listed by dimensions rather than wheel brand names. Can anyone post a link or two, please?

Added: Also, is it possible to get axle sleeves - if so where?

I've not seen axle sleeves, but I have found it easy to get washers with a 1/2" diameter hole and I have several of these on my outdoor chair which has some strange Spinergy wheels on it.

Someone asked if its possible to get bearings to convert from one axle diameter to the other. I think it is. The two common axle diameters for wheelchair wheels seem to be 12.7mm (i.e. exactly half-an-inch) and 12.0 mm exactly. I've got all my chairs on 12.7mm axles, but I still have problems finding axle pins the right length. RGK chairs seem to need longer axles than Quickies.

Also, not all axles have the flats on the inner end to allow a spanner to hold them while adjusting the nut. Some are just round all the way down and I have to grip these with pliers or mole-grips. (English names) These might be called by another name West of the Atlantic.

[twisted_ophelia]

greybeard, on Mar 23 2009, 05:10 PM, said:

twisted_ophelia, on Mar 23 2009, 09:06 PM, said:

greybeard, on Mar 23 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

Not laughing - the only stupid question is the one that's not asked.

Spanners are the tools made to fit the shape of nuts (usually six sided) so the nut can be turned easily. You may have another name for them over there (wrench??) They are made in various sizes, as are nuts. Get you ex to show you.

I actually googled spanner and it is indeed just another name for wrench so what I think you mean is an adjustable wrench which is what I've been using. But I only have the one. I'll ask him to bring another one, I'm sure he's got one!

Spanners:
[attachment=5746:spanners.jpg]

Hope this helps.

Thanks, Punkin, you're the best!

Ex Hubby fixed the axles tonight. Yay! Actually I was going to tell him you guys had said to use the 2 wrenches but he took one took at them and first thing out of his mouth was "I need two wrenches". I had forgotten to tell him to bring another wrench over but he always keeps a toolbox in his car.
Now I've got a new pair of knobby tires (the Kenda 24" x 2, off of Sportaid.com) waiting for me at my friend's house in Mammoth, we just gotta put them on my chair when I get there tomorrow and I'm good to plow through the deep snow. My new chair works so much better with 24" wheels so unfortunately the 26" knobby tires wheelset I have had to be replaced. Couldn't afford a whole new wheelset so I opted to just to buy the tires/tubes and stick them on my everyday rims. Hope they fit ok! Won't know til we try them out!

Edited by twisted_ophelia, 24 March 2009 - 03:35 AM.