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#1 User is offline   ohiohope 

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:52 PM

Has anyone heard about Locomotor Training? It was started by Christopher Reeve and his wife.There are only 7 places in the US that has this machine and your injury must be incomplete to be considered for the program.I am on the waiting list for the one here in Columbus Ohio at Ohio State my injury is C 7 almost 4yrs post.I will post a link to the website at the end where you can apply online at a clinc near you also watch the Video of a man on the machine.I had my Eval.for the program Dr. said I was a good canidate now I just have to wait for a spot as waiting lists are long but well worth it.I have heard of people walking after being wheelchair bound for as long as 7yrs. but if you can get in and get any function back it is worth it.In the past year I started getting strength back in my legs and can move them good just cant make them walk YET. But anyway check it out.Just copy and paste it in your browser as it is long
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Posted 28 July 2009 - 06:02 PM

I used the lokomat when i was in chicago 4+ years ago and loved it. I think it help me rgain the leg movement i have today.
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 05:04 AM

I am familiar with it, only thin is, it seems Project Walk is a newer improved version of it but bith programs lack the necessary technology to activate your inactive muscle fibers. One doesn't get up from the wheelchair and begin moving/walking. Initially during my first standing it was done in a standing frame and I almost passed out (faint feelings). Once that was overcame, I spent much time in the standing frame doing sit to stands. Sure the depth started at at best one inch was the distance from sit to stand. The exercise of stannding in the frame works well for bloodflow. Much atrophy, edema, and demyelination of axons weren't overcame until help with the AC current NMES. That specific program's theory is mainly based on the idea of repetition. Still the Project Walk's philosophy of treating the cause not symptom is logical and makes sense. The program is effective by those that put in continual effort. Problem is that and ProjectWalk don't deal with hand functioning. Overall, ProjectWalk has a better format because it addresses the inner-ear/vestibular and retraining of the CNS. It better gives one the format/procedure to improve gait (in medically/physically possible cases/non-severed connections).

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 03:27 PM

I have checked out project walk they now have a place in austin,tx. This one is roll to walk. If you can afford it go there im trying to go begining of next year.
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 03:59 PM

Hey Quadc5,.. and anyone else interested..
Healthsouth (which is a very common sports rehab in the U.S.) just got lokomats/lolomotors as part of their basic equipment last year. Insurance will cover there 9 times out of 10 and if all you really want is access to that machine for a fair price its definitley something worth looking into!
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:40 PM

Can you tell me what doctor you saw to get on the waiting list at OSU? Will they give you any idea how long the wait is?





View Postohiohope, on Jul 28 2009, 01:52 PM, said:

Has anyone heard about Locomotor Training? It was started by Christopher Reeve and his wife.There are only 7 places in the US that has this machine and your injury must be incomplete to be considered for the program.I am on the waiting list for the one here in Columbus Ohio at Ohio State my injury is C 7 almost 4yrs post.I will post a link to the website at the end where you can apply online at a clinc near you also watch the Video of a man on the machine.I had my Eval.for the program Dr. said I was a good canidate now I just have to wait for a spot as waiting lists are long but well worth it.I have heard of people walking after being wheelchair bound for as long as 7yrs. but if you can get in and get any function back it is worth it.In the past year I started getting strength back in my legs and can move them good just cant make them walk YET. But anyway check it out.Just copy and paste it in your browser as it is long
Have a Blessed day
http://www.christopherreeve.org/site/c.ddJ...ery_Network.htm

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 05:12 PM

I was a candidate when I was at Kessler in NJ. When I was admitted I was a T11 incomplete. Three months later and lots of in-therapy I became an L1/2. This threw me out of the program.
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 07:37 PM

ladyreevz if you are in Ohio get in out patient rehab at Ohio State and they will get you on the list.That is how I did. I finally go Oct6th.for my last eval. and if I pass I am in the program.Which I hope all goes well I can Squeeze my muccells and nerves and all in my legs move feet push out with legs just can not tell the darn legs to get up and WALK.!!!I am 4 years post this Dec.so if I get in I will update my prgress here.
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 11:34 AM

View Postladyreevez, on Sep 16 2009, 05:40 PM, said:

Can you tell me what doctor you saw to get on the waiting list at OSU? Will they give you any idea how long the wait is?





View Postohiohope, on Jul 28 2009, 01:52 PM, said:

Has anyone heard about Locomotor Training? It was started by Christopher Reeve and his wife.There are only 7 places in the US that has this machine and your injury must be incomplete to be considered for the program.I am on the waiting list for the one here in Columbus Ohio at Ohio State my injury is C 7 almost 4yrs post.I will post a link to the website at the end where you can apply online at a clinc near you also watch the Video of a man on the machine.I had my Eval.for the program Dr. said I was a good canidate now I just have to wait for a spot as waiting lists are long but well worth it.I have heard of people walking after being wheelchair bound for as long as 7yrs. but if you can get in and get any function back it is worth it.In the past year I started getting strength back in my legs and can move them good just cant make them walk YET. But anyway check it out.Just copy and paste it in your browser as it is long
Have a Blessed day
http://www.christopherreeve.org/site/c.ddJ...ery_Network.htm


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Posted 15 October 2009 - 02:51 PM

I am going to begin locomotor training today at the Rehabilitation Institute of San Antonio (RIOSA) on a machine called an AutoAmbulator (http://www.healthsou...toAmbulator.asp).

My rehab doc prescribed twice a week treatments for 4 weeks. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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Posted 15 April 2010 - 05:24 PM

I completed about 3 months of twice-a-week, 30-minute sessions on the AutoAmbulator in January. I didn't see any benefits as far as regaining any motor control. It did loosen my legs up, which lasted for about an hour after the session. Once insurance saw that I wasn't making progress other than stretching my legs, they stopped paying for the sessions. I'm glad I tried it, though, it was worth a shot.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 04:18 AM

Yes.. I'm currently in Philadelphia and Magee Rehab got a new Lokomat. I was in there L.T. Program for about 3 months. If anyone is interested... Contact Magee Rehab in Phila or New Jeresy/Delaware..
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 12:07 PM

View Postmarxlong, on Apr 28 2010, 05:18 AM, said:

Yes.. I'm currently in Philadelphia and Magee Rehab got a new Lokomat. I was in there L.T. Program for about 3 months. If anyone is interested... Contact Magee Rehab in Phila or New Jeresy/Delaware..


We only have two Lokomats in the UK and none are available for public use. Mad eh? UK rocks!

I believe Standing Start (based in Cambridge) are trying to raise the funds at the moment to buy one at their facility. It doesnt help that the machine costs about £250k! Stop ripping us off.

I cant believe that major spinal units in the UK dont have Lokomats. Come on Govt!
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 01:01 PM

They had a Locomat in the QENSIU in Glasgow.
I was on it but didn't really help even though they said I was ideal subject T4 incomplete with reasonable movement in my left leg. I believe there may be one in Dublin but Stoke Mandeville balked at the cost.
We used to call it "Robocop" not the most comfortable thing if you are a guy with sensations in yer nuts!

Best thing I used was the Motomed bike with FES, that made mw feel good.
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 06:11 PM

View PostEdinburgh Colin, on Apr 28 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

They had a Locomat in the QENSIU in Glasgow.
I was on it but didn't really help even though they said I was ideal subject T4 incomplete with reasonable movement in my left leg. I believe there may be one in Dublin but Stoke Mandeville balked at the cost.
We used to call it "Robocop" not the most comfortable thing if you are a guy with sensations in yer nuts!

Best thing I used was the Motomed bike with FES, that made mw feel good.


Well, after contacting the two spinal units in the UK with a Lokomat (Pinderfields and Glasgow) it seems that I have no chance of getting a bloody go even if Im a perfect candidate for it as they are only classed as "research" and are available for inpatients of the spinal unit. Hey ho........

So it looks like I will need to go abroad to use one. The UK is great for Care, but rubbish for Cure.
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