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#1 tallgirl

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 01:12 PM

Ok guys, here I am with another question....

I heard of the many benefits of electrical stimulation and I would like to get and use an EMS machine, although the physios are against it saying I might be burned...I just have to convince them I guess.
I would like to know how you guys are using these machines, where you got them...especially people in the UK as I'm in Ireland myself and what benefits you find in using them...I heard of a T4 para who uses them on his abs and can do crunches as a result...that sounds awesome.

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#2 edlee

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 04:02 PM

McCann,, where are you???

There is a person on this site who has , himself, gotten great value from electrical stimulation,, He has some definite ideas on the subject, and would be the one you want to talk to about this.

Others , here, have had some experience, also,, but he seems to have had the most.

Use the search and look for posts by McCann,, you can decide for yourself, then.
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Posted 16 August 2009 - 07:29 AM

Yes, in spite of what I and others say about or to Mc Cann, if you are after someone who knows about this sort of product, check him out. Just check with your physio to make sure that you don't get physically or financially burned. A lot of companies seem to sell the NMES machines and their quality and pricing probably varies greatly.

You may also see a few heated discussions on here with McCann but they are more about his delivery of the information rather than specifically the product manufacturer McCann promotes. I can't recall him offering up any web based info or some such but I have seen him mention a number to call of a place he recommends which is the same machine he used in his recovery.

#4 McCann

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 07:13 AM

Here I am and the info is in a new topic post in here, hope its ok/properly written?

#5 The Black Sheep

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:03 PM

I bought a TENS unit on ebay a few years back, which has 4 of these little sticky pads that you place anywhere on your muscles and it zaps them. The have different pulses and patterns that you can adjust. I don't know if it's the same time of device, but it's electrical stimulation. I found that if I put 2 just below my knees, on the inner part of the leg, I can lift my ankles a little better. When I'm on an exercise bike, I can pull my leg back up better as well.

I have a jimmy-rigged bicycle with the arm handles that are connected to the petals, so when I move the arms, it forces the legs to go in circles. I bolted shoes to the petals and strap the feet in so they don't get loose. I can use the legs an iddy-biddy bit, but the TENS unit makes it just a little bit easier. I've never tried doing situps before with it, but I've put them on my belly before. I don't have full use of my diaphram, and the electrical unit makes it a little harder to breathe. I think it's because my abs tighten, loosen, tighten, loosen... I dunno, it just makes it a little more difficult.

Edited by The Black Sheep, 04 November 2009 - 10:05 PM.

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:45 PM

I had a real expensive unit I used on my hands for a couple of years after my SCI.......
It did keep my fingers more limber, but was such a pain in the ass and time consuming, so I stopped.....

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 02:31 PM

If you want to try it out you can do through Standing Start

http://www.standingstart.org/

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 08:26 PM

My husband was injured in 1985. Not long after he began rehab, he bought a Neuro-Muscular Stimulator. I don't know what they are called now, b/c he still has his original unit and it's been collecting dust lately.

I'm trying to get him back on a schedule for using it and he knows he needs to also. A couple of years ago, he was involved in a study through Arizona State University sponsored by the Fulton School of Engineering. I posted a link to the magazine article on here, but the link is no longer any good.

My hubby was testing a new electrical stimulator being developed. It was used on his legs. There were 4 adhesive pads that I would stick onto his thighs and with each zap/pulse, it would lift his lower leg up slightly and by the time the session was over (about 45 minutes) his lower leg would be fully extended.

After each session the machine would congratulate him and let him know he was ready for the next level. This meant adding a 1/2 lb. weight onto these straps wrapped around his ankles. There were 7 - 1/2 lb. weights for each leg.

The study went on for 3 months. After doing 12 sessions at home, he would go to ASU and they would take the computer chip out to monitor the data and he would come home and start all over again.

As far as burns go, you just have to do it in moderation. My husband has red marks where the pads are placed, but they usually go away by the end of the day.

He did benefit from the study. He gained 9 lbs of muscle in his legs.

For some quads it might be difficult to place the pads where they need to go, but since you are a para, you should be able to easily put them in place.

The unit my husband tested had peel and stick pads, but with the one that's been collecting dust, we use KY jelly as a conductor and sometimes use athletic tape to keep them in place.

I'm going to get him back on schedule b/c it does help strengthen his muscles and we plan to add more protein to his diet so he will gain most of his muscles back that he lost from losing a lot of weight the past few years.

Here's a pic of Mr. Hapa in 1992, so 7 years post injury. I didn't know him when he was injured. We didn't get together until early 1991, but I've seen pics of him after he got out of the hospital and he was pretty thin. A lot of PT, weight lifting and my good cooking got him to this point.

The next pic is from the magazine for the ASU study he did. You can tell he lost a lot of weight. He's 6'2" and in the first pic he weighs about 190 lbs. and in the last pic he weighs maybe about 140.

Maybe you should talk to a physiatrist about what you should get and how it should be used. Good luck!

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 02:37 AM

Hello to all,

can i just insert a question.

Can I used a ES for a inflammed leg because I am recovering from a surgery due to a fractured femur?

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 03:08 AM

they used a special magnetic ring on my femur the second break on the right leg, it was strange but worked.......... need to let the femur heal, what the dr say?

Edited by airart1, 06 August 2010 - 03:14 AM.





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