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60 Minutes correspondent Ed Bradley talks to Keirstead about stem-cell research this Sunday, Feb. 26, at 7 p.m. ET/PT. (USA)
"The fears of giving someone false hope are real," Keirstead tells Bradley. "We’re not trying to come up with something to take people from zero capabilities to 100 percent. These are incremental advances and it’s experimental. I think we could call this a dazzling success if we saw the smallest improvement in the ability of a human to do anything that they could not do. If they could move a single finger, I would call that a raving success. Let’s hope it’s a lot more."
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Posted 26 February 2006 - 09:05 PM
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 02:22 AM
Geewiz Joed,
I'd give this a totally different spin. "This is a video of an injured rat. The signal that's going from the brain down to the spinal cord controlling all of the muscles of the body are interrupted by a spinal cord injury." Bradley: "The new cells he created traveled right to the damaged areas of the spinal cord and wrapped themselves around the nerves there, enabling the signals to flow uninterrupted through the body. Six weeks later, the once paralyzed animals were able to lift their tails and they could walk." !!!! I'd give your caution, absolutely mentioned by the doctor, second billing. What say you all?
I'd give this a totally different spin. "This is a video of an injured rat. The signal that's going from the brain down to the spinal cord controlling all of the muscles of the body are interrupted by a spinal cord injury." Bradley: "The new cells he created traveled right to the damaged areas of the spinal cord and wrapped themselves around the nerves there, enabling the signals to flow uninterrupted through the body. Six weeks later, the once paralyzed animals were able to lift their tails and they could walk." !!!! I'd give your caution, absolutely mentioned by the doctor, second billing. What say you all?
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 06:54 PM
I wasn't trying to spin anything...just letting people here know that the segment would be televised, and providing a quote from the episode. 
I watched it, and didn't find that it revealed anything new, really. So overall, I was disappointed. I'm still confused as to why embryonic stem-cells remain such an issue, when they've found other stem cells that can be harvested from adults. Are these adult stem cells inferior to embryonic stem cells?
I watched it, and didn't find that it revealed anything new, really. So overall, I was disappointed. I'm still confused as to why embryonic stem-cells remain such an issue, when they've found other stem cells that can be harvested from adults. Are these adult stem cells inferior to embryonic stem cells?
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 05:11 AM
there is no way I can answer your question. Your cells, my cells, are as old as we are. They are also dying. We are talking about" ...tissue that would have been destroyed in the discards of a fertillity clinic." ....... Some time later: I can't beleive I have even entertained this thought. I'm fighting for someone, who may not be interested in this discussion ever. And that, and that is killing me.
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 01:57 PM
Joed,
I think the excerpt with which you began was the right one. We're all interested in stem-cell research, and I think most of us know there have been encouraging developments. But our ignorance is so dire that it's easy to mistake baby steps for giant strides toward The Cure. I mean, even baby steps are giant strides for babies, but the risk of thinking good news is The News We've Been Waiting For is relatively large.
I have no direct knowledge of embryonic vs. adult stem cells. I've read that what one can do the other can do. But I've also read that embryonic stem cells are more versatile and that in many instances the embryonic cells yield better results.
I think the excerpt with which you began was the right one. We're all interested in stem-cell research, and I think most of us know there have been encouraging developments. But our ignorance is so dire that it's easy to mistake baby steps for giant strides toward The Cure. I mean, even baby steps are giant strides for babies, but the risk of thinking good news is The News We've Been Waiting For is relatively large.
I have no direct knowledge of embryonic vs. adult stem cells. I've read that what one can do the other can do. But I've also read that embryonic stem cells are more versatile and that in many instances the embryonic cells yield better results.
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 06:50 PM
HI everyone,
I'm somewhat new here. Actually I have read lots of the information for a while and I have enjoyed learning from all of you! This is just my first post.
I was hoping to shed a little light on the "adult stem cell subject". My father has Multiple Myeloma, a form of plasma cell cancer. Last May my father had a stem cell transplant.
In basic terms, this is what occured. The doctors removed the stem cells from my father, cleaned them, multiplied them and then implanted them back into him. Sounds simple enough, but it was more intense than you could ever imagine. The procedure was incredibly painful, and although it was successful, the cancer did return.
The problem with Adult stem cells is that they are harder to obtain, more painful on the patient, weaker and not as many exist.
Embryonic stem cells are much better because they are more versatile and of course, painless for the donor.
In my opinion - we should use the stem cells from already discarded fetuses. The real debate is whether or not abortion should be legal - as long as it is, then why not put the discarded fetus to good use.
Perhaps it could prolong the life of my father and give my boyfriend back some of his mobility.
Sorry for the long post!!
Stephanie
I'm somewhat new here. Actually I have read lots of the information for a while and I have enjoyed learning from all of you! This is just my first post.
I was hoping to shed a little light on the "adult stem cell subject". My father has Multiple Myeloma, a form of plasma cell cancer. Last May my father had a stem cell transplant.
In basic terms, this is what occured. The doctors removed the stem cells from my father, cleaned them, multiplied them and then implanted them back into him. Sounds simple enough, but it was more intense than you could ever imagine. The procedure was incredibly painful, and although it was successful, the cancer did return.
The problem with Adult stem cells is that they are harder to obtain, more painful on the patient, weaker and not as many exist.
Embryonic stem cells are much better because they are more versatile and of course, painless for the donor.
In my opinion - we should use the stem cells from already discarded fetuses. The real debate is whether or not abortion should be legal - as long as it is, then why not put the discarded fetus to good use.
Perhaps it could prolong the life of my father and give my boyfriend back some of his mobility.
Sorry for the long post!!
Stephanie
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 07:16 PM
Thanks for helping to clarify that for me, Stephanie. It makes sense that the embryonic stem cells would be more versatile. I had no idea that the process of harvesting adult stem cells would generate so much pain. I hope your father will ultimately benefit from his other treatments.
Welcome to the boards!
Coach...
I agree...I was impressed with one aspect of the segment in that they didn't try to sensationalize or exaggerate their findings. I thought the doctor was quite clear on that point, and I was glad to hear it.
It makes sense that the embryonic stem cells would be more versatile. I had no idea that the process of harvesting adult stem cells would generate so much pain. I hope your father will ultimately benefit from his other treatments.Welcome to the boards!
Coach...
I agree...I was impressed with one aspect of the segment in that they didn't try to sensationalize or exaggerate their findings. I thought the doctor was quite clear on that point, and I was glad to hear it.
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 09:15 PM
Thank You, Joed!
Yes, it is a little known fact that patients receiving adult stem cells experience an almost unimaginable amount of pain. If more people understood this, they would probably move to the other side of the debate!
I thought the 60 minutes presentation was very good. Although it didn't show much more in findings, I think that the way it was presented (especially with showing the mouse regaining mobility) was very impressive. If it changed the mind of one person, then I would comsider it a success!
Cheers!
Stephanie
Yes, it is a little known fact that patients receiving adult stem cells experience an almost unimaginable amount of pain. If more people understood this, they would probably move to the other side of the debate!
I thought the 60 minutes presentation was very good. Although it didn't show much more in findings, I think that the way it was presented (especially with showing the mouse regaining mobility) was very impressive. If it changed the mind of one person, then I would comsider it a success!
Cheers!
Stephanie
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