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#1 *Richard Design Student*

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 06:06 PM

hi im a product design student and for my final year product i have chosen to design a manual wheelchair that will try utilize muscular force to its full.

i was wondering if anyone could give me some user feedback and help me with my research.

any feedback on the following design suggestions would be appreciated:

-the use of gearing to aid the user when climbing slopes
-a form of manual lifting for the user to stand or reach objects
-seat reclining
-preventing sleeves becoming soiled when in contact with the wheels
-a form of manual aid for climbing stairs

also could anyone provide any feedback on a manual wheelchairs mobility.

many thanks

richard

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 06:46 PM

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-a form of manual lifting for the user to stand or reach objects

Something that would be helpful to me, would be to have extentions on the armrests, so they could be raised up to provide support while standing/reaching. I'm able to stand on my own, but have problems balancing, especially when reaching up for something.

I realize you're asking about manual lifting, in particular...but I wouldn't know enough about that to be confident about providing feedback. Others here are much more expert in 'all things wheely' than I am, so I hope you'll get some good feedback from them.

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seat reclining

I have a slightly reclining seat on my current w/chair...I wish it reclined a bit more, but it's a nice feature as it provides pressure release when sitting for long periods of time.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 09:45 PM

Some thoughts from observing my boyfriend and his chair problems:

Make a way for the handrails not to get so darn cold in the winter time, yet still be able to glide easily between your hands.

Make the foot plate stronger (or put some better plastic caps on it) so that when packing the chair it doesn't scrape so much that it ends up cracking, breaking and costing an addtional $400

Make the back rest stronger, for the same reasons as above.

Make the screws for the chair a little easier to find (home depot didn't have a single one that fit!)

Anything that would make the chair stronger and at the same time less expensive would be wonderful!

Sorry, I can't help out with the mobility - just more with the technical problems I have encountered!

Cheers!
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 11:26 PM

:hug: thanks guys for ur quick responses

any more thoughts on problems with manual wheelchairs dont hesitate to post!

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 07:59 PM

-the use of gearing to aid the user when climbing slopes

Been done in prototype form (ive seen pictures on the web) but really adds a lot of weight for not a great advantage, I don't think it's ever made it into production - energy losses in transmission and added weight make it a bit of a non starter

-a form of manual lifting for the user to stand or reach objects

Been done - available on the market - type Levo or Lifestand into Google

-seat reclining

Plenty of them on the market already

-preventing sleeves becoming soiled when in contact with the wheels

Yes please - without too much weight or silly looking mudguards please.

-a form of manual aid for climbing stairs

If you can do this whilst keeping weight to acceptable levels you'll make an absolute mint. Trouble is most chair users won't want to cart around all the extra weight all day every day.

Edited by russ1, 02 March 2006 - 08:04 PM.

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Posted 03 March 2006 - 12:53 AM

thanx russ very helpful wud it be possible to email you a questionaire? as it would be so helpful!

its not to long and doesnt require any personal info.

thanks rich

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 10:40 PM

I would be more than happy to help in any way I can. Female wheelchair user since 1984. Seems if I place my feet where they are comfortable, they are always in the way of my casters. Hand rims are defeintely cold -- I wear my fuzzy little winter gloves in the grocery store in the summer time. They keep it so cold I can hardly stand to push my chair. Also, footrests are made out of such non forgiving materials. I get so tired of having to wear my shoes all of the time. I mean even when I get out of the shower and am going straight to bed, I have to put my shoes on. The edge of my footrest is so sharp, (that's not really the right word) plus the weight of my dead(?) leg on my foot, has caused me severe heel problems and the near loss of my foot. Looks like it could be made with something in the rubber family or closed cell foam. (?) If you ever have any questions on any thing feel free to e-mail me. I would be more than honored to aid you in your understanding of our lives. Thanks so much for wanting to make a difference.

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 10:46 PM

In response to Joed's reaching things need. I think it'd be pretty cool to have a jack under my butt, :dunno: with ........ I don't know, some sort of handle you could jack the seat up with. I can reaise myself with my arms, yeah, but I can't support my weight so letting go is not an option. Being able to jack up the chair would be great in the grocery store!! WOW!! Now there's an idea!!!!! :D

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 10:49 PM

May I ask what you are studying and where

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 05:12 PM

hi rollerbaby84 thanks for all the info its such a great help! :ranting: i live in the UK and im studying Engineering Product Design at the University of Central England.

In regards to your reponse of havin a jack under your butt as u so politely put it lol :angry: ive had the idea of using a gas strut that are commonly found in office chairs which adjusts the high for the user. This would then give support when you would raise urself up. these struts are also fairly light and shouldnt add any more weight to the chair.

Please let me know what you think of this because it would be a great help again.

sorry i took so long to reply

thanks again

rich

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 07:12 PM

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ive had the idea of using a gas strut that are commonly found in office chairs which adjusts the high for the user. This would then give support when you would raise urself up. these struts are also fairly light and shouldnt add any more weight to the chair.

Like I said above it's been done before - that's how my standing chair works.
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 07:15 PM

Ooops sorry - the standing chair uses a gas strut like in a car rear hatchback. Some of the power chairs raise like you describe, be quite clever if you can do it on a manual without adding too much weight or losing rigidity.
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Posted 12 March 2006 - 10:46 PM

Yeah, I think it sounds like a good idea. And thanks for considering the weight issue also. I bought one of those "help uphill" devices once. You mount the wheel under the chair then kick it in when you need a little extra push. Not only was it extremely slow, it also weighed a lot. None of us need any more weight to push around than we already have.

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 10:48 AM

hey peeps

sorry i havent posted for a long time as i have been without the internet for a while!

i been busy on my designs and i think i come up with some good ideas and i could do with a little bit of help in some ares.

if i said that i cud make u a wheelchair that can climb a small amount of steps manually (ie public steps not a flight of stairs), could also travel on rough terain, raise the user to a standing position and prevent the users sleeves becoming soiled when in use. All this and it weighs as much as a conventional manual wheelchair!.

Would you guys be interested hypothetically?

the only problem in the design at the moment is that extra effort would be required for the user to climb steps but this would not be an impossible amount.

any response would be appreciated.

thanks

rich

p.s. i will post a concept ASAP!!!!

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 09:08 PM

i would be interested.

right now to climb steps i have a ramp in the back of my truck it's made for motor bikes and things of that sort to get them into the bed of the truck but works vary good for five - six steps. (all thow the more steps the steper the hill the more pushing i'll need.
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