Just watched it yesterday in 3D and not only did I really enjoy the movie, but the 3d effect was pretty damn good, they've come along way since Jaws 3D which I think was the last 3D movie I've seen. I thought the portrayal of a para was done quite well myself and couldn't find anything to argue with.
mcferguson, on Dec 18 2009, 12:11 PM, said:
I am looking forward to seeing this movie, but I find it interesting that the writers think it is easier to give a paraplegic an alien body than to fix his spinal cord. You would think that if docs knew how to manipulate alien genes they could fix a damaged spinal cord from their own race.
They actually can fix the spinal cord. I believe there is some dialogue where he says it's to costly and also that he'd rather have a reminder of what he'd gone through then get repaired.
Tortfeasors, on Dec 20 2009, 05:10 AM, said:
damn! I expected him to remain a para the whole film. I HATE movies that show people with disabilities as needing to no longer be disabled. What the hell is wrong with having a dis? Focus on quality of life, social access and full community acceptance (romantic and otherwise). I just HATE the cure focus on SCI. Wheelchair users can have great lives and are as valid and cool and attractive as non-disabled people. Why can't Hollywood just leave wheelchair users in their chairs without this constant focus on "cure"?? I know many SCI people want a cure, but that is for them individually to decide. There should not be some societal view that people with SCI are not as good as people without. I mean, improve medical interventions to prevent pressure sores and UTI's and other complications, but don't view people with disabilities as no longer being whole people!
He was a para the whole film until he changed to an Avatar fully. Would have been hard to roll around that planet off the base or come up with a huge wooden chair by being a paratar (that's right Para+Avatar). See above, he had chosen not to get "fixed" earlier in the film and then again he choose to return and help the aliens instead of getting "fixed". I think some of you just take thinks to damn serious and personal. This film wasn't about focusing on a "cure", the person did decide and honestly it seemed like the main character had accepted his life in a wheelchair pretty good and was taking on the mission in the first place to prove that some one in a chair could continue to do things. If you saw this movie showing that "people with disabilities as needing to no longer be disabled", then I think you need to look at your line of thought better. I saw it completely different.
kate42, on Dec 24 2009, 02:20 AM, said:
I just got back from seeing this and I am still amazed! I don't know how much I could actually say without rambling like an idiot, so all I can say right now is WOW. The portrayal of a para was awesome, the transfers, the atrophied legs (I read somewhere that they used CGI to make his legs so skinny). One part that struck a chord with me (besides the obvious part when he wakes up in his avatar body and is just running and jumping all over, which was a bit hard) was when he was getting into the thing to go into his avatar body for the first time, and Sigourney Weaver's character goes to lift his legs onto the bed, and he stops her. I'm not sure why, but that struck a chord with me.
And there is the other thing, about him not being a para at the end. How I interpreted it was that it wasn't about him being "cured" of his SCI, it was about him living the life that he wanted to live, with the Na'vi. Just what I thought.
I pretty much fely the same way, about the movie as a whole, regardless of a para being in it or not. The actor did do a great job IMHO and if I didn't know better beforehand and was asked after the movie if I believed he was really in a chair I would have said yes.
The part about him stopping her from helping with this legs was spot on for me though. When watching some one else do it, it might seem a bit shocking, but I can't even begin to count the number of times when I have stopped people from doing something like that. Yes that exact thing, when climbing on a X-Ray machine, I have stopped the x-ray technical every time from lifting my legs, I've stopped numerous people from helping me get out of the pool, I've stopped numerous people from trying to lift me into/out of the car. So while doing it I don't think twice about how it's being seen by some one else, but I guess watching it up there on the big screen made me perceive how it seems to the people trying to help.
Some people have mentioned that were a bit put off about how he acted the first time in his Avatar. Really? Why? I've been in a chair for 19 years, if all of us a sudden I was put into a body of a 15 foot muscled, lithe, agile frame, I'm pretty sure that I would act exactly how he did. I would have looked down at the table and wiggled my toes, I would have tried to stand up right away and I'd have been out running as soon as possible. I saw nothing that they had him doing that I didn't agree with.
To be honest after reading this thread before i watched the movie i was expecting to not like it. I thought it was going to have this guy hating life in a chair, not accepting what had happened to him and being stuck. About some one "needing to no longer be disabled", not being a "valid and cool and attractive" human as well as the focus of the movie being about the character focusing on a cure. Instead I saw a movie where some one had accepted their disability, had moved past it and continued on with his life discouraged by what was thrown at him, it had other characters believing that he wanted nothing more then to be "cured", it had other characters believing he wasn't up to par with them, but in reality that wasn't his main goal in life. I completely and totally connected with that. I have people in my own family that believe I spend half my day dreaming of a break through that will allow me to walk again and that my whole life is centered around that, when in reality it isn't something I really put a thought into anymore other then when brought up by some one else.
To be honest that was just small side story to the movie, not point of the movie at all, which some had led me to believe. The guy could have been a AB and it would not have changed my enjoyment of the movie and would have had little effect on the main story as a whole. The movie did leave me inspired though, as I saw the para character as some one showing that he could over come a lot more then what others believed and I'm not referring to his part with the Avatar, but just the whole part of him still being a Marine and shipping off to another planet for a job that needed to be done.
Char, on Dec 24 2009, 10:55 PM, said:
Out of curiousity - is anyone familiar with the wheelchair used in the movie? Interesting back on it. Looks similar to the flight chair but not the same.
Yea not sure, I found myself wondering the same thing. What chair was used. That was the only off putting part about it, 150 years in the future and there had been no improvement to the design of wheelchairs.