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[fatdave]

Ok, as I said in my other post I am in recovery from meth abuse, and still just opioid's for pain relief. (Oxynorm aka Roxycodone) I have never had a problem with taking my dosage correctly, the "high" I get from them isn't a high I like.

My fear is trading one addiction for another, and my doctor has never voiced an opinion just saying if it becomes a problem we will address it then. I don't like that type of thinking. I wonder if anyone else out there has faced this problem or something similar. I would welcome advice on this subject as its a concern to me right now.

[edlee]

The very fact that you are worried about it is actually a good sign. I've been very fortunate, in my life, to have overcome the only two addictions I've had,,, cigarettes and sex. One I overcame with a lot of effort,,, the other by accident, you might say.

Seems the problem you have with your doctor is one we all seem to have with ours,,, they don't want to spend a few minutes extra, talking to us. About anything.

I've been avoiding opiates for pain up till now,,, and I hope to continue that, if I can find anything else that works. Going in for another MRI next week, in the hope there is something,, structural,, they can do,,, we'll see.

From what I know of you, Dave,, you have both the strength and the intelect to keep yourself "level". Perhaps I have more faith in you than you do. I think I'm right.

Hang in there, brother.
ed

[nomis]

Edlee's right Dave. You can handle this better than your doctor can for you. You've got the experience. And I think you're absolutely right to be concerned with opioids for pain relief. I don't know what's the best thing for you to do but I've confidence you do.

[E-DOG]

Dave, young eddie's a beautiful human being but the dynamics of addiction are a bit beyond him. Love u ed, I really do!

The very concept of will power, intellect, just say no, is not in our realm of thought.
It's kinda like saying: "Wow, look at all those homeless people, why don't they just buy houses?"

If you truly have a desire to put a lead jacket around your thoughts feelings and emotions you WILL INDEED search for other means.
I switched from heroin to doughnuts one time. Gained close to 200, yes that's correct two hundred pounds in 2 to 3 years. Stanley was just about out of my reach and wiping my ass became a real hassle.

I explained exactly what you need to do to help yourself. If I don't have a little experience with the EXACT SAME PROBLEMS as you do then no one here does.

Let's be absolutely honest here. I don't want to sound like an asshole here. IF I AM an asshole I don't mean to be, I just want the best for you, you're a likable lil' fella and I've grown rather fond of you as the months of our paralyzed lives inch by.

Do you present your problems on this site in search sympathy and shoulders to cry on? If you do, and keep in mind that's OK, lot's of folks do just that here, then I'll shut the f#&k up and go back to telling funny stories and shit. It's easier to do, less taxing on an old man's almost useless brain.

You have yet to get back to me with a sit-rep of what's going on with you. As the days go by I've grown increasingly concerned. Oh well, at least we know yer still alive now.

Opiates? The love of my life. Using my body for a pin cushion? What could be better? Meth? Works for me too! It's all good in the neighborhood. Let's get high till we die! My words of wisdom for close to 40 years.

Addiction switching a concern for you? IT HAD BETTER BE.
It wouldn't take long for you to start LOVING the dreams of an "OPIUM EATER."

Any who, you know where I am, if I've sed something I shouldn't, come on down to wide track town and we'll vibrate. I may be old and tad corpulent but I'm still fast on my feet and you're just a pup. LOL

Stay sharp, they'll be here soon,

E-dog

Edited by E-DOG, 20 December 2009 - 12:33 AM.

[MxDisasterGrl]

fatdave, on Dec 17 2009, 11:27 PM, said:

Ok, as I said in my other post I am in recovery from meth abuse, and still just opioid's for pain relief. (Oxynorm aka Roxycodone) I have never had a problem with taking my dosage correctly, the "high" I get from them isn't a high I like.

My fear is trading one addiction for another, and my doctor has never voiced an opinion just saying if it becomes a problem we will address it then. I don't like that type of thinking. I wonder if anyone else out there has faced this problem or something similar. I would welcome advice on this subject as its a concern to me right now.

Dave,

I have never had any addictions other than sucking my thumb. YES SUCKING MY THUMB! No one could stop me. My parents tried EVERYTHING from hot sauce, to castor oil, to fingernail polish, pepper, etc....EVERYTHING. Then one day, i just realized i didn't want to do it anymore. I was getting too old really, but that wasn't it. Even as a teenager i would do it at night when i thought no one would see me. LMAO! I know that is completely different from you, or is it? Addictions will last until we/you decide to stop them. Plain and simple. No one can make you, no one can really even help too much. And i still live w/ the "craving" of sucking on my thumb.

lol..... I must say i still like to have something in my mouth to suck on. Hard candy, suckers, lol....etc.... Wow, i can hear all the perverted minds such as myself justa spinnin'....lol....
anyways, you find other "MEANS".

After my accident they put me on fentanyl as i have also said on a few posts before. It was soooo hard to get off of. The only reason i really chose to do it in the first place was because my kids and bf noticed that i wasn't myself. I was sometimes pleasant but mostly, i'll just say, BITCHY. I didn't know it was the meds, to me it was life, docs, friends, family, and everyone else BUT ME AND MY MEDS!! Then i decided after my suicidal thoughts that wouldn't go away that it really wasn't me. Even going through what i was, i STILL wasn't the type of person to jump so quickly to killing myself. Not just yet anyways...my kids are too young, and everyone else isn't as well qualified as i to raise them. So i decided i wanted to be better for the people that did love me enough to still be around me. It was so hard. For many different reasons really. The main one being that i liked the way the fentanyl took my pain away. It did nothing for my sorrows, but the pain being absent was great. I could "legally" get high, and i liked it. Why stop? I NEED it for my PAIN, right???!!! No, there are other MEANS to feeling better. It took a long time to get off the shit. But i DID IT. And i did it for myself i now have realized. Do you know that i don't really remember much at all of my life for a year or more after my injury??? I didn't know what that stuff was really doing to me. But it was taking my life away quicker than my own paralisis. If i'm going to live in this damn chair it WILL be sober. That is MY choice. You have to make your own choice, whether you have kids, family, friends, or not. Make a choice and stick by it. People make choices everyday, everywhere, but the ones we make for our own sake and lives will change just that. Our lives forever. I think you're a wonderful guy. I have no complaints, why should you? It seems that everyone on here likes you too. I'm w/ E-dog, if you're really asking i'll keep replying, but if you're just on here to get that great sympathy like we all do sometimes...i wanna make jokes to make you laugh instead!

lol, best of luck w/ everything!!

xoxos
april

[qbounce]

E-s right. Glad I wasn't the A-hole who said it.

An addict uses any excuse in the book to get a fix of ANY kind of drug . . . any drug that gets a high, and you'll start mixing pill cocktails until you find the right dossages.

The only problem then, is when your tollerance levels go up, as with anything, you start chasing a NEW dragon.

Like the CRAMPS (punk group in the eighties) said, "I Want Some New Kind Of Kick."

Doesn't matter what it is, you will inveriably switch from one addiction to another until you get a handle on your emotional baggage and work the steps.

Of course, I'm no addict either. But I lived with one for 15 years, enabled her for 7, and finally divorced after the downward spiral crashed. On impact, I wheeled out of the wreckage of our tumoltuous relationship, while she sinks further under water to this day.

Hey, one rehab is never enough. It takes several tries before it sticks.
One last thought, don't they disallow candy and coffee in rehab as well?? Some are like that, anyway, and for good reason. You'll jump to anything for any type of stimulation.
So, stop making excuses and fly right.