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I think it is strange that the disabled community is quiet about Rahm Emanuel. Why isn't there some outrage brewing somwhere?
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 09:27 PM
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 09:34 PM
NewDisability, on Feb 3 2010, 09:27 PM, said:
I think it is strange that the disabled community is quiet about Rahm Emanuel. Why isn't there some outrage brewing somwhere?
In case you missed it, you can read about Emanuel's comment here
In case you missed it, you can read about Emanuel's comment here
Of course he should resign. He's an idiot.
But his comments have nothing to do with it.
Only the most extreme politically correct retards are making THAT argument.
Ha, ha!
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:37 AM
Sorry,,, but not only am I not impressed with political correctness,, I am actually repulsed by it. It often makes me less inclined to agree with ANYTHING said by those invoking it.
Retarded is a word that, by definition, carried the meaning that was meant. Unlike the word "nigger",, that, tho derived from the term for black,, negre or negro ,, has always carried a degrading not descriptive connotation. There are few words that I will not use other than when talking about the word,,, but this is one.
So,, No,,, I don't believe he should be fired for using a word,,, not even had he used cripple to describe me. It's the performance in his job that should decide on his future employment. And that performance rated by his boss,, not by those who disagree with his boss in general.
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Retarded is a word that, by definition, carried the meaning that was meant. Unlike the word "nigger",, that, tho derived from the term for black,, negre or negro ,, has always carried a degrading not descriptive connotation. There are few words that I will not use other than when talking about the word,,, but this is one.
So,, No,,, I don't believe he should be fired for using a word,,, not even had he used cripple to describe me. It's the performance in his job that should decide on his future employment. And that performance rated by his boss,, not by those who disagree with his boss in general.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:31 AM
Being where as I know nothing about politics, Obama, health care, Rahm, Ram, Reem or Rome, I have no idea whether the guy was right or wrong.
BUT.
I do decidedly agree with young eddie.
Political correctness is gonna suck away at what little is left of the color and personality of our syntactic expression to the point where we'll sound like a bunch of banal, insipid, tea totaling panty waists.
Yet another step towards collectivism. Ayn Rand would not approve.
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BUT.
I do decidedly agree with young eddie.
Political correctness is gonna suck away at what little is left of the color and personality of our syntactic expression to the point where we'll sound like a bunch of banal, insipid, tea totaling panty waists.
Yet another step towards collectivism. Ayn Rand would not approve.
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when it absolutely, positively, has to be destroyed overnight, call the Marines.
I will nevah, EVAH take a pinch from a greasy muddahf*@kah like you!
How 'bout if I spell it out for ya. D-I-L-L-I-G-A-F
I will nevah, EVAH take a pinch from a greasy muddahf*@kah like you!
How 'bout if I spell it out for ya. D-I-L-L-I-G-A-F
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 06:15 AM
i voted yes, but not because of what he said (they are f*@kin retards) but because hes a dick...a little dick cheney in my opinion...a mean spirited shit, and we don't need another in the white house
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 01:05 PM
edlee, on Feb 3 2010, 07:37 PM, said:
Sorry,,, but not only am I not impressed with political correctness,, I am actually repulsed by it. It often makes me less inclined to agree with ANYTHING said by those invoking it.
Retarded is a word that, by definition, carried the meaning that was meant. Unlike the word "nigger",, that, tho derived from the term for black,, negre or negro ,, has always carried a degrading not descriptive connotation. There are few words that I will not use other than when talking about the word,,, but this is one.
So,, No,,, I don't believe he should be fired for using a word,,, not even had he used cripple to describe me. It's the performance in his job that should decide on his future employment. And that performance rated by his boss,, not by those who disagree with his boss in general.
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Retarded is a word that, by definition, carried the meaning that was meant. Unlike the word "nigger",, that, tho derived from the term for black,, negre or negro ,, has always carried a degrading not descriptive connotation. There are few words that I will not use other than when talking about the word,,, but this is one.
So,, No,,, I don't believe he should be fired for using a word,,, not even had he used cripple to describe me. It's the performance in his job that should decide on his future employment. And that performance rated by his boss,, not by those who disagree with his boss in general.
ed
Regarding your post about non-disabled bureacrats making laws that exclude the rights of people with disabilities, do you think there might be a parallel between thoughtless language used to refer to groups and a thoughtless attitude toward that group's rights? Language is a symbol, and a choice. I reserve special words for special people, as we all do. We use bad words when we are frustrated (--at least I have my lapses!) When we refer to a group by a thoughtless name, it represents a lack of interest and concern for how that group identifies itself and its rights. I think that while we can all have lapses, referring to people with disabilities by terms like "cripple" would be a representation of the underlying ideology about disability -- that we're a worthless group of people who should remain marginalized. By thinking more consciously about language, and taking the time to call a group by the words they themself prefer, it shows at least the first step toward willingness to leave assumptions at the door and let people have some autonomy back. Otherwise, the white majority, or wealthy majority, or whatever majority will always leave the smaller groups at the sidelines... For us, this can have devastating life consequences when things like medical care and institutionalization are left in the hands of people who don't even care enough about learning about our desires for our lives that they can't even use a respectful term for us.
Even mindless political correctness, as empty as it may be for the mindless individual employing the politically correct term, can have a dramatic effect on the audience listening to that speaker. The more we lean toward calling people by respectful terms of their own preference, the closer we nudge toward that group being able to have a say in how the majority treats them, legislatively and otherwise.
Food for thought.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 01:28 PM
Being in the UK, I neither know nor care about what the person who is the subject of this thread, may or may not have said or done.
I do have an issue with the strange aversion some folk display at the use of words that perfectly correctly describe an individual's characteristics - presumably in the name of "community cohesion", "political correctness" or whatever other label is used to dress up this stupidity. Yes, stupidity. Because that is exactly what it is.
I am crippled by lumbar stenosis, therefore I am a cripple.
It disables me from undertaking functions with which an uninjured (or able-bodied) person has no problem. Therefore, I am disabled.
Now, what the hell is so wrong about writing that? I am not demeaned by it. Nobody else is demeaned by it, and to suggest that they are, or might be, is arrant nonsense.
I do have an issue with the strange aversion some folk display at the use of words that perfectly correctly describe an individual's characteristics - presumably in the name of "community cohesion", "political correctness" or whatever other label is used to dress up this stupidity. Yes, stupidity. Because that is exactly what it is.
I am crippled by lumbar stenosis, therefore I am a cripple.
It disables me from undertaking functions with which an uninjured (or able-bodied) person has no problem. Therefore, I am disabled.
Now, what the hell is so wrong about writing that? I am not demeaned by it. Nobody else is demeaned by it, and to suggest that they are, or might be, is arrant nonsense.
This post has been edited by greybeard: 04 February 2010 - 03:44 PM
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 01:35 PM
Leave Tea out of this E-dog
It's a much loved drink by us warm beer swilling Limeys
It's a much loved drink by us warm beer swilling Limeys
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 02:04 PM
greybeard, on Feb 4 2010, 08:28 AM, said:
Being in the UK, I neither know nor care about what the person who is the subject of this thread, may or may not have said or done.
I do have an issue with the strange aversion some folk display at the use of words that perfectly correctly describe an individual's characteristics - presumably in the name of "community cohesion", "political correctness" or whatever other label is used to dress up this stupidity. Yes, stupidity. Because that is exactly what it is.
I am crippled by lumber stenosis, therefore I am a cripple.
It disables me from undertaking functions with which an uninjured (or able-bodied) person has no problem. Therefore, I am disabled.
Now, what the hell is so wrong about writing that? I am not demeaned by it. Nobody else is demeaned by it, and to suggest that they are, or might be, is arrant nonsense.
I do have an issue with the strange aversion some folk display at the use of words that perfectly correctly describe an individual's characteristics - presumably in the name of "community cohesion", "political correctness" or whatever other label is used to dress up this stupidity. Yes, stupidity. Because that is exactly what it is.
I am crippled by lumber stenosis, therefore I am a cripple.
It disables me from undertaking functions with which an uninjured (or able-bodied) person has no problem. Therefore, I am disabled.
Now, what the hell is so wrong about writing that? I am not demeaned by it. Nobody else is demeaned by it, and to suggest that they are, or might be, is arrant nonsense.
You can demean yourself if you choose, but that does not give you the right to demean others.
I would have expected more from your thinking abilities since you always post replies to people in a very know-it-all and negative tone to newbies when they are simply asking for advice/suggestions and have not yet found it on Google.
So, feel free to vote in the UK; I hope there are more thinkers among the populace.
I'm glad you're not contributing to US voting and resultingly the mayem with regard to the treatment of disability in the US political scene. Here's a good rule to live by -- I don't judge your country, so don't judge mine or its voters unless you have something positive to say or can be constructive in a respectful and not rude manner. Fair deal?
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 03:22 PM
Why are you being so unpleasant?
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:49 PM
Tortfeasors, on Feb 4 2010, 06:04 AM, said:
greybeard, on Feb 4 2010, 08:28 AM, said:
Being in the UK, I neither know nor care about what the person who is the subject of this thread, may or may not have said or done.
I do have an issue with the strange aversion some folk display at the use of words that perfectly correctly describe an individual's characteristics - presumably in the name of "community cohesion", "political correctness" or whatever other label is used to dress up this stupidity. Yes, stupidity. Because that is exactly what it is.
I am crippled by lumber stenosis, therefore I am a cripple.
It disables me from undertaking functions with which an uninjured (or able-bodied) person has no problem. Therefore, I am disabled.
Now, what the hell is so wrong about writing that? I am not demeaned by it. Nobody else is demeaned by it, and to suggest that they are, or might be, is arrant nonsense.
I do have an issue with the strange aversion some folk display at the use of words that perfectly correctly describe an individual's characteristics - presumably in the name of "community cohesion", "political correctness" or whatever other label is used to dress up this stupidity. Yes, stupidity. Because that is exactly what it is.
I am crippled by lumber stenosis, therefore I am a cripple.
It disables me from undertaking functions with which an uninjured (or able-bodied) person has no problem. Therefore, I am disabled.
Now, what the hell is so wrong about writing that? I am not demeaned by it. Nobody else is demeaned by it, and to suggest that they are, or might be, is arrant nonsense.
You can demean yourself if you choose, but that does not give you the right to demean others.
I would have expected more from your thinking abilities since you always post replies to people in a very know-it-all and negative tone to newbies when they are simply asking for advice/suggestions and have not yet found it on Google.
So, feel free to vote in the UK; I hope there are more thinkers among the populace.
I'm glad you're not contributing to US voting and resultingly the mayem with regard to the treatment of disability in the US political scene. Here's a good rule to live by -- I don't judge your country, so don't judge mine or its voters unless you have something positive to say or can be constructive in a respectful and not rude manner. Fair deal?
Excuse me there torto-roo, exactly who is it that greybeard is demeaning?
All he's saying is that he doesn't know who this Rahm guy is.
Shit, I'm American and I don't know who the hell he is!
Political correctitudeness is for sissy's.
Disabled. Gimped -up. f*@ked-up.
It's all good in the neighborhood. Ain't no thing but a chicken wing.
And dave?
Beer is OK warm, but tea should be ice cold with lots of sugar in it and served with BBQ.
Not to offend all you haggis eaters but, tea's fer little old ladies who eat their biscuits with a knife and fork.
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when it absolutely, positively, has to be destroyed overnight, call the Marines.
I will nevah, EVAH take a pinch from a greasy muddahf*@kah like you!
How 'bout if I spell it out for ya. D-I-L-L-I-G-A-F
I will nevah, EVAH take a pinch from a greasy muddahf*@kah like you!
How 'bout if I spell it out for ya. D-I-L-L-I-G-A-F
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 07:27 PM
I'm with the nay sayers, firing some one over using a non PC word is just stupid. Call me what you will, I could care less, I call myself a gimp. Why? Because people remember me better then way later on when I call em up and say "Hey, this is me, the gimp, that talked to you earlier". It works better then "Hey, this is me, the guy, that talked to you earlier". Just seems that more people remember me that way...
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 11:13 PM
And dave?
Beer is OK warm, but tea should be ice cold with lots of sugar in it and served with BBQ.
If you old dogs like your tea all sugary like (cold is ok)
Must mean your bite is all gumy like, as for the tooth decay rotted the sharpness of your bite
For a small donation to the upkeep of my Cannibis farm I can tell you how to replace all that nasty sugar with some fine old alchohol
Beer is OK warm, but tea should be ice cold with lots of sugar in it and served with BBQ.
If you old dogs like your tea all sugary like (cold is ok)
Must mean your bite is all gumy like, as for the tooth decay rotted the sharpness of your bite
For a small donation to the upkeep of my Cannibis farm I can tell you how to replace all that nasty sugar with some fine old alchohol
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 02:53 AM
Nothing but a word it only offends you if you allow it to.Words don't hurt you people hurt you.
Oh yeah like my beer ice cold!
DannyR, on Feb 6 2010, 03:52 AM, said:
Nothing but a word it only offends you if you allow it to.Words don't hurt you people hurt you.
Oh yeah like my beer ice cold!
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