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#1 *XV Pilot*

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 08:08 PM

Hi All!

I've been a lurker on this board for a while now, and the time has come for me to post. I have a query I hope someone might help me with.

I'm looking for a rugged all-terrain power chair suitable for use on the farm, but also capable of being used indoors. I have had a look at the Extreme 4X4 chair on the Web, as well as the Radical rear wheel drive off-road chair. Both have their strong points, but also their weaker ones.

The Extreme looks like it is a very capable off-roader, with its 4-wheel drive and quad motor set-up. However it looks like the steering arrangement makes it steer like a car, with a rather large turning circle. I doubt it would get around my rather tight living quarters.

The Radical looks promising in terms of manoeuverability, with its rear wheel drive, front castoring chassis. However it doesn't seem to have much ground clearance, and the farm tracks aren't all that smooth in places.

There is also the issue of range. I would want a chair capable of around 20 km, or more if possible. I don't fancy the idea of being stuck outdoors with dead batteries - sheep are wonderful creatures but I doubt they'd be much good at pushing me home!

I know I am asking a lot, but does anybody have any suggestions for a good chair that fits these criteria?

Thanks!
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Posted 26 March 2006 - 03:17 AM

Pilot,

I don't have one yet, but am in the process of getting the Omegatrac. It seems to me to be one of, if not the best powerchairs out there. I have been investigating the purchase of a new chair for over a year and I have to admit that after seeing their little promo CD and studying all they have to offer, I can't help but think this is going to be the answer to many peoples problems. It is definately the 'Hummer' of the wheelchair world. If the company(Teftec) are able to service their product better than most, then we'll have a real winner going.

By the way, I am not making a commision on these. It's just that I like it that much. I used to live in Bangkok Thailand for 16 years, and if you have ever been to that part of the world you know that it is not wheelchair friendly. After my accident (I am now a para. and BKA) I knew that I would never be able to get around in a conventional power or manual chair comfortably. Even negotiating: the: streets, Buses, and by-ways of Honolulu (my home now) have been traumatic due to my sensative back.

Check out the Teftec site, and then go to Omegatrac-search and you'll see some interesting stuff.


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Posted 26 March 2006 - 11:55 AM

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 03:35 PM

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Yeah, I saw that. Pretty interesting huh? Not too practicle indoors though. It would be great as a second car, or if the Huns were to attack. Be nice here in Hawaii for beach work.


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Posted 01 April 2006 - 02:22 AM

Take a look at this guy's stuff: hotshotproducts.org and wheelchair-recycler.com

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 02:58 PM

i wanted something off road too but i went with gaz powered (i know you cannot go inside)but there is other avantage like speed over 60 mph with stability, accessibility to unbelivable place ,reliability(un breakable)ease to get spear parts all that for a smaller price if like me you are paraplegic you need no modification most hondas 4x4s are hand controled :(

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 03:27 PM

Yep, check out a 4X4, the Honda's are hand controled and I could ride one anywhere. The trac chair looks cool but I don't know how the hell one would transfer into it....

But at $8,000-$12,000 plus, you have to be careful, I'd consider using one for outdoors and a seperate for indoors,,,,seems to be easier on the walls for me.. :(

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 03:31 PM

View PostXV Pilot, on Mar 15 2006, 10:08 PM, said:

Hi All!

I've been a lurker on this board for a while now, and the time has come for me to post. I have a query I hope someone might help me with.

I'm looking for a rugged all-terrain power chair suitable for use on the farm, but also capable of being used indoors. I have had a look at the Extreme 4X4 chair on the Web, as well as the Radical rear wheel drive off-road chair. Both have their strong points, but also their weaker ones.

The Extreme looks like it is a very capable off-roader, with its 4-wheel drive and quad motor set-up. However it looks like the steering arrangement makes it steer like a car, with a rather large turning circle. I doubt it would get around my rather tight living quarters.

The Radical looks promising in terms of manoeuverability, with its rear wheel drive, front castoring chassis. However it doesn't seem to have much ground clearance, and the farm tracks aren't all that smooth in places.

There is also the issue of range. I would want a chair capable of around 20 km, or more if possible. I don't fancy the idea of being stuck outdoors with dead batteries - sheep are wonderful creatures but I doubt they'd be much good at pushing me home!

I know I am asking a lot, but does anybody have any suggestions for a good chair that fits these criteria?

Thanks!
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Hey XV

Good to see you around m8 .... thanx for looking at our Radical Gazelle 250 S, some changes have been made to improve the model .... so ground-clearance, battery live, arm rest have changed ...... this is still one rugged beast.

Also check the site the new Predator 4 x 4 has been added ........ just shout if you guys have questions.

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#9 Peugeot405

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 04:12 AM

Howzit?

I'm a paraplegic coming to honolulu for a week starting May 12 2009 with wife +
baby and a couple of friends

did you get that super chair? do u rent it out? or is there anything else to do in

Honolulu for paraplegics? I have my dive ticket.... handcycles? help :)

thanks

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 08:10 AM

For farm, Polaris ATV. My parents have about 2000 acres, and I ride the hell out of the 325 AWD Polaris out there. I don't know if you will really be able to find an outdoor powerchair that is suitable indoors unless you have a house with a bare concrete floor. I have managed to find several chairs for outdoor use, but most are going to be hell to get around in the house unless you have a really open floor plan. The Tankchair has been out for a few yrs now, and I can tell you from seeing one that it's a real BEAST. There are a couple other real off-road chairs, but that's what they're designed for...off-road, rough stuff. If you want one that's going to perform off road, it will have a different set of criteria to meet than will an indoor-use chair (unless, as I said earlier you have a very open floorplan and hard floors). That being said, I have a few other options you might want to look at for off-road powerchairs (link below). Also, there are some indoor chairs, and take a look at the Polaris Rangers and Ranger RZR.

Link to site with several chairs on it. One really cool tracked chair.

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 04:10 AM

Three of the guys I hunted with for the first day of spring turkey, this year,, all have chairs called Frontier. I won't bother to link it ( cause I'm not sure how), but I found it by googling wheelchair, power, frontier.

It got them all where they wanted to be, two of them ended up with birds, by the way,,,. It has massive center drive wheels, ( height and width) and heavy casters front and back.

I'm told it's pretty pricey,,, but, then , aren't they all?
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 02:24 PM

Or you could build your own? Easter Seals gave me a used bariatric chair. It's rated to carry 600 lbs, I'm maybe 150 soaking wet. So far we've built a different footrest, and when I get time I'm going to be swapping out the seat for one off of a Invacare TDX 5 that I had. I'm going to keep the power recline on the seat aswell. The nice thing about this chair is it was made with parts readily availible from parts stores, should you break something. Well other than the electronics. But the batteries are just deep cycle marine batteries. It is rear wheel drive, so I took off the crappy gray wannabe knobbies and opted for some tractor tread tiller tires. I don't know what size they are, but the rim is a 4x8" rim, so there pretty decent size. The front caster wheels work pretty well too. I've been able to take it places where I never been able to go, except with our quad. It'll go through grass thats 2-3 feet tall, and minor mud. I did get stuck this winter in it, but we had a foot of snow with ice underneath it. The snow was wet too, so it was getting packed underneath and getting highcentered. I usually could rock back and forth on the seat and I usually got free, but a few times on a sidehill I had to get help. Battery life is pretty good. I havent charged it in 2 weeks and I've been using it daily around my gf's folks place, and it still shows a half charged.

I suppose I should tell you who built the chair too huh..lol It was built by Wheelchairs of Kansas. I don't know if they have a website or not, or even if they are still in business. **edit** http://www.wheelchai...overlander.html This is the exact chair I have, but with a custom built footrest, and tractor tread rear tires.

I use this specifically outdoors, I just transfer into my manual chair right at the door to the house to go inside. It would be a pain in the ass to use inside. Oh, and if I need to go through really rough terrain or long distances, I have a Kawasaki Teryx utility vehicle that I use. Its a life saver!! :blushing02:

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 12:25 PM

I an hopeing that I have a few more years before I am again stuck in a chair. I still have my manual chair for the days when I loose the use of my legs but as I have aged I am thinking more about a vehicle such a the Tank but much less expensive.

Years ago the Struk Corporation built a mini dozer. It is/ was gas powered and narrow enough to meet ADA. ADAG REQUIREMENTS . Electric start was an option and it had a variety of impliments.

Ther were other brands of mini dozers that would fit throug a 32-36 opening also and it comes to it I can build one if I have to........anyone else have these thoughts?

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 02:06 PM

That would be sweet. Now that I'm thinking about mini dozers, what about those mini skid steers? Do they make some that small too? Or what about those self propelled wheel barrows? If anything, those things should provide some stout parts to start a custom build with. Now you got the wheels in my head turning... :P
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 09:00 AM

Yes theymake mini skidsteers and mini walk behind dozers and loaders and tracked carry alls. Honda has a commercial division and has a tracked carryall that will carry half a ton. A tracked snowblower might even work one that the auger mechanism is messed up.

Bolens used to make a two track snowmobile that had a seat with wheels or skis that trailed behind the vehicle.



View PostRYAN68, on Jul 9 2009, 07:06 AM, said:

That would be sweet. Now that I'm thinking about mini dozers, what about those mini skid steers? Do they make some that small too? Or what about those self propelled wheel barrows? If anything, those things should provide some stout parts to start a custom build with. Now you got the wheels in my head turning... :boxing:


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Posted 13 July 2009 - 10:08 PM

hey check out this www.actiontrackchair.com make sure to talk to jeff.

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 07:41 PM

Hi
I'm a poor paraplegic T-6 looking for a used All terrian wheelchair. I could never afford a new one, and I miss the woods and beach so much. If anyone knows where a used ATV power chair is available please help me ok. I'm willing to trade bargain sell blood anything to get a ATV chair.
Just kidding about selling blood .LOL
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 03:05 PM

Hi,

I thought I could assist you with an all terrain wheelchair. There is a new wheelchair on the market which is unbelievable!! it's called The Challenger 4x4 wheelchair. This beast of a chair can stair climb, is 4x4 and go over all terrain and cope with 40 degree hills and turns on the spot. This must be the best wheelchair on the market.

Please take a look at their website:

www.allterrain4x4wheelchairs.com
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:51 PM

[quote name='stephenk' date='Aug 19 2009, 10:05 AM' post='125149']
Hi,

I thought I could assist you with an all terrain wheelchair. There is a new wheelchair on the market which is unbelievable!! it's called The Challenger 4x4 wheelchair. This beast of a chair can stair climb, is 4x4 and go over all terrain and cope with 40 degree hills and turns on the spot. This must be the best wheelchair on the market.

Please take a look at their website:

www.allterrain4x4wheelchairs.com
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Thanks, I would love to have one of those but I could never afford it.
Thanks again buddy
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 12:44 AM

That is a step in the right direction but I see a major problem with it........flats. That chair will be sitting in a garage half the time because of flats. It would be ffine for a city dweller with the smaller wheels but battery power still is a major drawback.


What I am thinking about is this http://www.struckcorp.com/ but one of the older models.

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 01:23 AM

View Posthartcreek, on Aug 19 2009, 07:44 PM, said:

That is a step in the right direction but I see a major problem with it........flats. That chair will be sitting in a garage half the time because of flats. It would be ffine for a city dweller with the smaller wheels but battery power still is a major drawback.


What I am thinking about is this http://www.struckcorp.com/ but one of the older models.
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