[neal1313]

Hi all,

I am in my second season of sitskiing here in Bozeman Montana and need some advice. I learned last year on a Yetti through our local adaptive ski program and got to a point where I was skiing a lot of our local mountain comfortably. Enjoyed the bumps, powder and going fast. Then this year I used the Yetti my first day and felt even better... Then I got my new mono in the mail. I purchased a kbg mono with a freedom factory seat, and with a elan 888 174 ski and a vokle mantra 170. Got my skis turned and headed out. My first day out on the new equipment I noticed the seat was really uncomfortable, slightly painful compared to the Yetti but headed up the mountain anyway. As I came off the lift I hit the cat track and new I was in trouble... couldn't turn the ski. Caught edges, took harder falls than I did my entire first season. Fast forward 6 skiing days later and I still feel super uncomfortable, still occasionally catching edges, difficulty turning, and slightly out of control which is not at all how I felt on the Yetti and terrified to try any bumps or steeps that I did last season So some have told me that it could be that the skis were turned too sharp and were a little to edgy, and needed to be de-tuned on the tips and tails and that this would make a difference. Some has suggested that I need a better seat that fits and is comfortable and that could make a big difference (don't know of any other good seating options). Others have told me to sell the kbg and buy a new mono that is in the feet down position, Yetti, Prash, Nissin.

At this point I am open to any and all options... just want to have fun and not be so uncomfortable on the mountain.
Would appreciate any advice out there.

Thanks
Neal

[qman]

bummer, that must be very frustrating.

I have skied RPC (feet up) and Prasch (feet down) and would be very surprised if that was the issue as i could ski both equally successfully. If any difference i would say that the RPC was easier to ski flat (for powder) and the prasch is easier to get over on edge and carve (on piste) but is was minimal difference.

I had a few issues when i first got my prasch as the shock was set up a little hard so turned it down a little and made a massive difference.

The KBG are an awesome rig but they are pretty heavy and pretty aggressive i skied one briefly with an ill fitting seat and abandoned it after one run. but could really see the potential of it with the right fit. I was slightly hung up on my hips and my bum wasnt sitting firm on the bottom of the seat which made it near impossible to ski.

Just out of interest were the skis similar to the type that you skied previously on the yeti. both the 888 and the mantra are moderately wide which is a little harder edge to edge. I have skied skis from 170cm with 68mm waist to 184cm with a 104cm waist and havent found them to be significantly more difficult to ski. The best all round ski i have found so far is a head monster 88 (88mm waist) in a 175cm.

All in all i would say that the setup of the rig including balance, shock pressure and rebound, seating and strapping will have a much bigger impact on your control than the brand of the rig. Definetely experiment with shock pressure and rebound but more importantly be sure that you are well seated in the bottom of the seat and getting good contact with the rig.

If the seat doesnt fit it will be a waste of time. where are you getting pain and discomfort. One of the reasons i liked the prasch was the hugging nature of the seat. mine is really tight and a bitch to get in an out of but fits and treat and skis great.

I agree than the tuning of the ski can also make a difference but would be surprised if that is the primary problem.

[JimG]

I would say it's probably the combination of the Yetti and that Head Monster ski. I liked it as well.

I took a couple of lessons here in Park City and struggled, but once I got on that combination above at Big Sky (EagleMount), I felt right at home and started making full runs w/o crashing by the afternoon.

If I buy one, it will be a Yetti. I just liked the fit, how my body sat in/on it, and even the foot rest kept my feet together (the one here couldn't keep my feet in place), which I think is a factor in your balance.

[neal1313]

thanks qman for the imput.

Hearing that you tried a kbg and had trouble with a ill fitting seat made me feel a little better. I also talked to another friend who convinced me that a poorly fitted seat can make skiing the kbg almost impossible. ALso told me that if the edges are not de-tuned tip and tail that the turning would be difficult. The skis that I am using are about the same width and lenth as the program ski I used but the program ski probably lacked an edge tuning for a couple of years. I think that I will try to find a new seat that allows my butt to sit firmly at the bottom and de-tune my current skis and then go from there.

any suggestions out there for good buckets?

[qman]

Are yetti still making sit skis, i wasnt ware there had been any newer yettis around, the older ones ski well but are tanks.

i did alot of research before i bought mine, i probably would have bought a nissin but couldnt find any info on them, i looked seriously at the tessier, but they were about 30% more expensive, and the prasch was a nice compromise on price and performance. I also liked the RPC.

The prasch fits like a glove and no legs coming out.

Many people use snowboard straps for legs and thighs. otherwise velcro or nylex buckles are good also.

[qman]

http://www.radventures-yetti.com/website/s...tures_equip.php

just looked up the yeti again, and it is a really old design. by there own admission it is at best 10yo and up to 18yo.


I terms of buckets i know that Andy Campbell got a seat custom made in denver recently after his was broken in transit.

[wheeels]

I tried the Nissin and if I had 6 grand I would get one

I talk to Andy about the bucket he got made it fits him well and Aspen Seating does a great job but he said it was to flexible for the skiing he does.

But Aspen seating made it fast as I saw another bucket they made and it was kick ass

[qman]

yeah, i would have loved to try the nissin but i just couldnt track down ANY information on them.

but i am happy with the prasch for now.

Q

[chrislit]

you definatly need to be in tight and comfy.
And a modern ski performs so much better than old stock.
All the pivits and hardware ware out on rigs and become sloppy and loose.
The University of Calgary has a new design and price $1500 !!!
Yes $1500 bucks , including shock and bucket.
Google it
Chris

[wheeels]

FYI the University of Calgary one is going to be closer to $2000.00, that being said its still a great price.

If you see the photos or video of the guy skiing it, it me.

[outkastsl]

Aspen seating is a great option if you have the cash. I emailed them about the custom seats and it starts at $2000 plus you need to be in Denver for 3 days in order to have it made and fit properly.

This post has been edited by outkastsl: 22 March 2010 - 02:31 AM