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[SCOTIE]

anyone got any idea how we could manage trying to get the legs of the lift/hoist under the bed. it was such a nightmare this year as the beds in the accessable rooms in disney, florida were all on wooden box frames.

our son is quadrapletic and we cannot manage without a hoist. previous years we used bed blocks as the beds had small metal legs

would appreciate any ideas and help,

[WillyB]

Seems a bit off that Disney of all places don't get it. Ask the hotel staff to put blocks under the corners of the bed. We have an insider to Disney. Don't know how far we'll get but we're gonna do our best to correct the issue. Could you tell me what hotel it was?

[SCOTIE]

it was Saratoga Springs, we arrived after such a long flight to find the beds were all on what I would describe as a wooden frame. (previous year we used our bed blocks on the bed that then had metal legs) we had 4 of our own bed blocks but because the bed had no legs as such and was in 2 sections all that happened was the bed ended up like a hill. there was nowhere to position the bed blocks if that makes sense.

by day 2 after getting no where with the people who came out first this lovely guy came and knew exactly what we needed and phoned for another bed to be brought to the room, bed on the wooden frame went out and a bed on small metal legs came in, hoist legs slipped under the bed no problem.

but.. and here is our problem the resort manager has informed us via our dvc guide that disney are phasing out the beds with the legs and bringing in these beds on the wooden frames so we will in the future have a problem. the guy who helped us on day 2 said that under some sort of american disablity act they must provide such things but I am unsure and thinking ahead I would like to be prepared if these wooden framed beds are all that is available.

our son is 6' weighs around 11 stone and is a C4 complete injury so there is no way we can lift him onto a bed without a hoist. our worst nightmare really

Edited by SCOTIE, 12 August 2010 - 12:49 PM.

[WillyB]

SCOTIE, on 12 August 2010 - 12:46 PM, said:

it was Saratoga Springs, we arrived after such a long flight to find the beds were all on what I would describe as a wooden frame. (previous year we used our bed blocks on the bed that then had metal legs) we had 4 of our own bed blocks but because the bed had no legs as such and was in 2 sections all that happened was the bed ended up like a hill. there was nowhere to position the bed blocks if that makes sense.

by day 2 after getting no where with the people who came out first this lovely guy came and knew exactly what we needed and phoned for another bed to be brought to the room, bed on the wooden frame went out and a bed on small metal legs came in, hoist legs slipped under the bed no problem.

but.. and here is our problem the resort manager has informed us via our dvc guide that disney are phasing out the beds with the legs and bringing in these beds on the wooden frames so we will in the future have a problem. the guy who helped us on day 2 said that under some sort of american disablity act they must provide such things but I am unsure and thinking ahead I would like to be prepared if these wooden framed beds are all that is available.

our son is 6' weighs around 11 stone and is a C4 complete injury so there is no way we can lift him onto a bed without a hoist. our worst nightmare really

Wow, Thanks for the reply. I've been studying ADA laws heavily in on Airline issues. Now I need to shift gears into Hotel industry ADA Laws. I take these things quite seriously as this very issue comes up far too often. My organization has been slowly forming alliances with other organizations that are working to improve Travel conditions etc. We are approximately 10 month's into this project. It's my hope we can show you what our efforts produce by the New year at the latest(maybe earlier). I really can't understand why I see so many articles about how big special needs and accessible travel is to become, Agencies jump on board, yet no one has really taken the time to listen to the issues that keep people from traveling. It's not that difficult or costly. I will check into this cause it just burns my butt!

I wish you the best on all your travels

Willy

[Dan Jurgens]

did you ask for a handicaped room at disney. we live near orlando so weve never stayed there but i think a handicaped room would be ok fro a lift. their parks are real good for poeple in wheelcahirs and weve never had a problen there.
i cant lift my husband Dan either who now wieghs about 140# down from 182 when he had his CSI so i always ask for a handicaped room.

Norma (wife of Dan)

[WillyB]

Our Agency will be meeting with a Disney Rep on Thursday. We will dicuss this issue with him. It would be good to know upfront if this was a Accessible room before our discussions.

Thanks,

Willy

[SCOTIE]

Dan Jurgens, on 15 August 2010 - 12:26 PM, said:

did you ask for a handicaped room at disney. we live near orlando so weve never stayed there but i think a handicaped room would be ok fro a lift. their parks are real good for poeple in wheelcahirs and weve never had a problen there.
i cant lift my husband Dan either who now wieghs about 140# down from 182 when he had his CSI so i always ask for a handicaped room.

Norma (wife of Dan)

yes it was a handicapped room. I have read over on another site the following

the ADA guidelines for accessible hotel rooms only addressed things like toilet height, door width, etc that were considered permanent features of the room. The did not address things like beds, chairs, etc that were ‘furnishings’. There was no requirement for bed height or ability to put a lift under a bed, so you could find a very high or vary low height bed in an ADA accessible room

WillyB, on 15 August 2010 - 02:45 PM, said:

Our Agency will be meeting with a Disney Rep on Thursday. We will dicuss this issue with him. It would be good to know upfront if this was a Accessible room before our discussions.

Thanks,

Willy

yes Willy it was an accessible room and we have been told the following

the company(disney) is moving away from having the metal frame beds.

even if there was an idea or solution to lifting the beds they do use up so that there is clearance for a hoist.
thanks for you help

Edited by SCOTIE, 15 August 2010 - 07:48 PM.

[SCOTIE]

double posted

Edited by SCOTIE, 17 August 2010 - 01:37 PM.

[WillyB]

SCOTIE, on 15 August 2010 - 07:43 PM, said:

Dan Jurgens, on 15 August 2010 - 12:26 PM, said:

did you ask for a handicaped room at disney. we live near orlando so weve never stayed there but i think a handicaped room would be ok fro a lift. their parks are real good for poeple in wheelcahirs and weve never had a problen there.
i cant lift my husband Dan either who now wieghs about 140# down from 182 when he had his CSI so i always ask for a handicaped room.

Norma (wife of Dan)

yes it was a handicapped room. I have read over on another site the following

the ADA guidelines for accessible hotel rooms only addressed things like toilet height, door width, etc that were considered permanent features of the room. The did not address things like beds, chairs, etc that were ‘furnishings’. There was no requirement for bed height or ability to put a lift under a bed, so you could find a very high or vary low height bed in an ADA accessible room

WillyB, on 15 August 2010 - 02:45 PM, said:

Our Agency will be meeting with a Disney Rep on Thursday. We will dicuss this issue with him. It would be good to know upfront if this was a Accessible room before our discussions.

Thanks,

Willy

yes Willy it was an accessible room and we have been told the following

the company(disney) is moving away from having the metal frame beds.

even if there was an idea or solution to lifting the beds they do use up so that there is clearance for a hoist.
thanks for you help

Scotie,

Just an update for you and anyone else concerned. I communicated the issue to our Disney rep. Now I wait to hear back from him. If not in a couple days I will contact him. It also seems this needs to be addressed with the ADA. Who is the Lawyer on this site? I've seen him on here. Just can't remember his name.