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#1 User is offline   Trinity 

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 12:18 PM

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The Mountain Trike is a revolution in wheelchair design which offers wheelchair users the freedom to safely venture out into the countryside, travel over muddy tracks, grass, gravel and uneven terrain. The ATW gives riders the ability to go to places that are completely inaccessible to traditional wheelchairs.

The Mountain Trike allows riders to travel up hills without rolling backwards, through it's unique braking and propulsion system. Easy manouvering even when freewheeling is enabled by the highly intuitive Direct Steering System.

The Mountain Trike opens up a whole new world of adventure.

The Mountain Trike benefits are:

* Highly stable on uneven ground
* Easy and Intuitive steering
* Ability to tackle rough terrain
* Superior traction on hills and soft ground
* Ascent of hills without rolling backwards
* Extra comfort and stability through the independent suspension

http://www.mountaintrike.co.uk/
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 04:23 PM

View PostTrinity, on 31 August 2010 - 12:18 PM, said:

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The Mountain Trike is a revolution in wheelchair design which offers wheelchair users the freedom to safely venture out into the countryside, travel over muddy tracks, grass, gravel and uneven terrain. The ATW gives riders the ability to go to places that are completely inaccessible to traditional wheelchairs.

The Mountain Trike allows riders to travel up hills without rolling backwards, through it's unique braking and propulsion system. Easy manouvering even when freewheeling is enabled by the highly intuitive Direct Steering System.

The Mountain Trike opens up a whole new world of adventure.

The Mountain Trike benefits are:

* Highly stable on uneven ground
* Easy and Intuitive steering
* Ability to tackle rough terrain
* Superior traction on hills and soft ground
* Ascent of hills without rolling backwards
* Extra comfort and stability through the independent suspension

http://www.mountaintrike.co.uk/

If only I had grip, working fingers...I'd be ripping up n down mountain trails. What a great design, thanks for sharing and putting a smile on an ex surfer/motocross dudes face...well done my lady :specool:
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 04:51 PM

If you watch the video of the chair just look at the effort used in the mid section of the body needed to get it moving it would be ok for people with lower injuries that have use of there trunk but i cant see it being any use for the higher injury level like myself that have no use of there trunk muscles at all, maybe moving the handles back would help then the user would use arm and shoulder power more than having to lean forwards to get any power to get it moving.

It does look good though but needs to be thought out more for the guys and girls that have no trunk control.


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Posted 31 August 2010 - 05:07 PM

View Postsilone74, on 31 August 2010 - 04:51 PM, said:

If you watch the video of the chair just look at the effort used in the mid section of the body needed to get it moving it would be ok for people with lower injuries that have use of there trunk but i cant see it being any use for the higher injury level like myself that have no use of there trunk muscles at all, maybe moving the handles back would help then the user would use arm and shoulder power more than having to lean forwards to get any power to get it moving.

It does look good though but needs to be thought out more for the guys and girls that have no trunk control.


Si


Sadly I don't think you'll ever get something that uits everyone. I am fairly sure I would get dumped straight out that chair by the front "stabilizer" wheels! (1min12 on the vid!)
Still I think it shows promise, no doubt it will be pricey though
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 08:06 PM

I saw that 2 and I would end up face down in the mud also LOL, It is going to be a great chair for the ones that can use it though dont get me wrong I am all for new chairs that can help get people into the places others cant reach maybe some straps would make the chair easier and usable for the higher breaks I am sure it could be modded to suit most I think just moving the handles back would help with the lack of trunk control.



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Posted 01 September 2010 - 08:13 PM

the casters aren't the prob, its the friggen crossbar between them that'll faceplant ure ass...catch a bush stump or rock hump with that suicide bar and ure TBI'd in a half second
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Posted 03 September 2010 - 07:47 AM

Hello guys and girls,

Sorry to get involved in your discussion, but I work on the Mountain Trike, and we love to hear about problems people are having or concerns they might have with the trike. We are always trying to improve on our design, and since everyone has slightly different issues it’s an exciting challenge! :D

StillFingers: Our current prototype design only requires working fingers for the brake controls. The use of a gripping glove / strap with the handle gives you full control of propulsion and steering using your wrist movement. We are currently changing the brake design so that a single finger lever will operate both brakes (as opposed to having 2 levers, one for each brake) now this won’t help me either, I hear you say, but what it will allow us to do, is to change the “non steering” handle into the brake controls, so you can operate both brakes simultaneously with your wrist, in a similar way to how you would operate the steering. Does that make sense? :) So hopefully you should have no problems with this in the future!

Silone74 (1): You are completely right, people with no trunk muscles at all will find it harder, and currently the levers will swing back a long way so you can start your pushing from a closer to the seat position if you like. You don’t need to lean all the way forward. We’ve had lots of people in your situation try it and though initially sceptical it isn’t too bad. I think the problem you’ve noticed is partially due to having a person with no spinal injury using the chair. In such a case they will instinctively use as many muscles as they can. I’ll try and get some videos of people with no trunk control for you.

Trininty: (First thanks for posting this on the forum) The being dumped out the front is a common concern and one I share with you. I have tried to push this trike as far as I can, taking it over rocky woodland paths that a mountain biker would find difficult! And despite going down big slopes, braking suddenly and going onto the anti tip wheels, I have never fallen forward out of it. The reason being that because the drive levers are in front of you, as long as you hold on to them, you can keep yourself in the seat. It feels strange to begin with, and I’m aware falling forward is a major worry for wheelchair users, it’s one of those things you’ll have to try. We are also fitting a seat belt as well though so this would help, and you can adjust the height of the anti tip wheels so that it tilts as little or as much as you like.

Silone74 (2): Good idea. I’ll have a look at how we can make the handle position adjustable, so you can move it back if you want. We need to do something like this anyway because we need to cater for different sized users. People with long arms would prefer if further away.

Allis53ca: You’re right, that cross bar has got to change! It has never caused us to crash or fall out, due to the centre of gravity of the chair when you are sat in it, even if you hit something at speed, but I don’t deny it could happen. We have a problem, on one hand we need to protect your feet, but on the other, a fixed bar like we have makes it hard for people to transition in and out. Any suggestions warmly received.

I hope you didn’t mind me commenting. I’d love to hear from you. We have a facebook page which has more details on our current prototyping, if you’d like to see that: http://www.facebook.com/mountaintrike

If you live in the UK and would like to have a go on the trike, we are always keen to find people who want to have a go. Please do get in touch.

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 08:19 PM

Hi I am glad you have joined and posted on here its great to actually talk to the people behind the product,good luck with this I hope it can and will be usable by all no matter what level or conditions we might have and if listening to members on here will help thats even better.



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Posted 04 September 2010 - 02:11 PM

Hey Ed,

Thanks for joining up and providing us some extra insight on your product.

I would love to give your Mountain Trike a go but, I'm a bit far from you over here in the good, old, mountains of Northeast Tennessee, USA. It would be a great place to give your piece of equipment a good workout.

Good luck on perfecting what looks to be a promising off-road chair!

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 03:19 PM

Thanks Joe and Si for your support. We will try our best!

I will be going to the states next year with some trikes. We’ve had a lot of interest from people in the US who want to have a go, hopefully I can meet some of you!

If anyone wants to email me directly, please use: ed@mountaintrike.co.uk

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 07:07 PM

i tried this chair at peterborough mobility roadshow, i found that i quickly got the hang of the lever system and found it both easy to use and quite energy efficient, i liked it and would love one when they are manufactored the only thing that i really have a doubt about and could put me off buying it was that being unable to stand made it incredibably difficult to transfer into from my manual chair, infact i ended up on the deck despite an assistant helping me to transfer. would prob try transfering with a transfer board but if this didnt help then it wouldnt be an option as a straight transfer from chair to chair was virtually impossible to do safely, but bear in mind it was a prototype so this might be altered before manufactor. went across grass and gravelly area and up and down hilly bits really nicely
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 08:00 PM

Hiya Wendy, don't worry you weren't the only one who found transferring a bit of a nightmare! :D

The problems were several: the fixed immovable foot plate meant people couldn’t get their chair close enough to the seat to transfer comfortably, the large wheels meant you had to transfer over the wheel and then down onto the seat, not ideal without a board or mud guard. And finally I think a lack of places to grip made it hard to know where to hold onto.

We’re trying to address all of these, but basically the foot plate will definitely be changed so that it can be moved out the way when transferring. We are also designing a transfer board that will take you over the high wheel and safely onto the seat comfortably and have plans for a mud guard that can double up as something to transfer across.

I’m hoping these will solve many of the problems people found. We should have a new prototype ready in October for you to try! :D
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