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[mcferguson]

Here is a great video that shows monkeys walking after a spinal cord injury:

Their plan is to start human trials soon.

[Zoo]

That is an awesome and encouraging video!

[dangerousdave]

So which walker will be the first to volunteer as a guinee pig/test case
We the already unwalkers cant qualify as our site areas are sealed

[mcferguson]

dangerousdave, on 03 September 2010 - 09:38 PM, said:

So which walker will be the first to volunteer as a guinee pig/test case
We the already unwalkers cant qualify as our site areas are sealed

He mentioned they were going to use patients from Boston area hospitals in their clinical trial. Since their technology is complimentary with standard surgical procedures, they likely won't have trouble getting volunteers.

[StemCells&AtomBombs]

Does anyone have any more news about this. I'm looking but I can't find anything. I'll let people know if I find anything.

[araitn]

dangerousdave, on 03 September 2010 - 09:38 PM, said:

So which walker will be the first to volunteer as a guinee pig/test case
We the already unwalkers cant qualify as our site areas are sealed

The first volunteers will be newly injured acute patients. He then goes on to state that the chronic sci will be helped with the removal of the scar tissue and the insertion of the device along with the patients own removed, treated, and re-inserted stem cells. I'm not saying that I think this will work but, at least, I think it has potential.

StemCells&AtomBombs, on 04 September 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:

Does anyone have any more news about this. I'm looking but I can't find anything. I'll let people know if I find anything.

Here's a link to a story from Inc. online magazine.

[dangerousdave]

A problem not adressed in this report
The chord is like a piece of elastic
When it is severed (and none of the monkeys were completly severed) the chord pings apart
The gap that will have to be bridged is greater then the width of a finger

Yes it shows inovation and honesty in reporting the total failure of another group of monkeys I wish him and us success

[sam4012]

mcferguson, on 03 September 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

Here is a great video that shows monkeys walking after a spinal cord injury:

Their plan is to start human trials soon.

mcferguson:
Did you go to the National Geographic Site to check out if this will be shown? It's interesting that the speaker states stem cell used by itself will not offer any benefit. Also the slide shows with human study it will cost $12 million which is considerably less than the clinical trials that SCINetUSA (sci.rutgers.edu) wants to start once they get their FDA approval. Invivo? biomaterial product name: Hydrogel something I will be watching before we make the decision with our daughter (c5 c6 incomplete, since 2007)being used in a clinical trial for stem cell.

Thank you for sending the video link.

[sam4012]

StemCells&AtomBombs, on 04 September 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:

Does anyone have any more news about this. I'm looking but I can't find anything. I'll let people know if I find anything.

http://www.invivothe...com/news_10.php I couldn't find anything on the NatGeo channel search.

[airart1]

shepard is involved is a great sign, they're one of the best spinal centers in the US.........maybe hes on to something great.........we will see......

[chrisarnold6]

Hearty thanks for this info. This is really encouraging. It's interesting to know that there are more than one avenue of treatment.

[mcferguson]

sam4012, on 04 September 2010 - 07:49 PM, said:

mcferguson, on 03 September 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

Here is a great video that shows monkeys walking after a spinal cord injury:

Their plan is to start human trials soon.

mcferguson:
Did you go to the National Geographic Site to check out if this will be shown? It's interesting that the speaker states stem cell used by itself will not offer any benefit. Also the slide shows with human study it will cost $12 million which is considerably less than the clinical trials that SCINetUSA (sci.rutgers.edu) wants to start once they get their FDA approval. Invivo? biomaterial product name: Hydrogel something I will be watching before we make the decision with our daughter (c5 c6 incomplete, since 2007)being used in a clinical trial for stem cell.

Thank you for sending the video link.

No, I haven't found the show by National Geographic. I did find an article about it, though. The article is dated in May 2010 and said the show was called "The Replaceable You" and would air later this year.

[love&hate]

I'm trilled to read/watch this. Honestly, I think he is on to something. Sci gives too much attention to stem cells treatment and this is very interesting alternative that also can benefit from possible stem cell breakthrough. Great news for all us... I have learned not to get my hopes up to fast but I will be following this study. I think we all should. Theres nothing closer to our dna then monkeys. If it worked for them theres a chance it might work on humans. Thank you for posting this. It made my day.

[dangerousdave]

Do not get carried away - he still hasn't found the reason for the 2nd trial disaster and so far it has only worked on partial chord cuts, which we know the body can recover from naturaly, partialy if not completely

[love&hate]

dangerousdave, on 09 September 2010 - 10:35 AM, said:

Do not get carried away - he still hasn't found the reason for the 2nd trial disaster and so far it has only worked on partial chord cuts, which we know the body can recover from naturaly, partialy if not completely

You are missing the point sir. Its not just about the cure. Obviously its not gonna miraculously cure us all. I dont think anybody thinks thats gonna be the case. Its about the fact that there are dedicated people somewhere out there with a great idea on how to make our life better. It made me feel good inside. The idea of device preventing massive inflammation and consequently scar on spine is brilliant and we would be foolish to think otherwise. Finally a different approach. I was kinda tired of reading about the stem cells over and over again. This is something new and refreshing. From what i have read mainly acute spinal cord cases gonna benefit from this but later on combined with some stem cells it might help us as well. About the 2ed trial fiasco as far as i read it was due to a mistake in lab that was responsible for carrying the experiment. He stated later on that Invivo won a lawsuit against the lab and was satisfied with the outcome.

[dangerousdave]

Thanks for clarifying that 2nd trial
But there is so much rubbish reporting on this and that within spinal research
No matter what he is doing i wish him well
Infact he is working within guide lines that i believe would work
But he still has a long way to go and partial severed chords do sometimes recover all by themselves - mine did - al be it only for 20yers

[gunsmokeak74]

I hope this happens to be something that is actually tried on humans but over my years of being injured someone always come along every 2 years and claim to have made bubbles walk again with the promise of human trials soon, never to be heard from again