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#1 chickaviator

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 08:40 AM

I am a wife to a C5 C6 quad and I am just wondering if there are any other wives out here that are in the same position. We have two children who are 4 and 6 and I am the only caregiver and I am worn down to the core. Honestly, I just don't know how much more I can take. My question is, if you are out there...how do you do it? Between the lifting, the bathing, the bowel program, the constant meds, it's all wearing me down as I try to take care of our precious children and give them the most normal lives possible. It seems like something is always breaking in the house and I'm having to fix all of the things he used to do. My husband has become very bitter and he takes it out on me which really hurts. He's been injured for two years and I never knew just how hard our lives were going to be. If I didn't love God so much I would leave but I made a vow to him and I am going to stick with it.

I just would really like to talk with someone in the same situation. I have wonderful friends but I don't know think they really get it plus I can never tell them how awful he acts or I'm afraid they wouldn't want to come around and I desperately need my friends. I feel so isolated already.

Thank you so much,
Jen

Edited by chickaviator, 13 February 2011 - 08:41 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2011 - 08:47 AM

Hi Jen, welcome to the forums...I am certain you will find fellowship and information here! Please check out this thread for information on help with your situation...there is help available for you! Of course you would burn out wiht such a formidable task! Your local CIL should be able to help you with care...Please take care and contact the agencies listed for some relief...and please let us know how things are going...


http://www.apparelyz...ursing-home-us/

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 08:53 AM

Jen, try this link for homebound services:

http://www.rehab.sta...vices/SAIL/Main

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:47 AM

Thank you for the sites and I am planning on checking into them.

What I really am looking for is someone who is in my position as a wife taking care of her quadriplegic husband. I hear of so many that end in divorce and I don't want that. But I can see how it happens. I feel like our marriage has been completely taken away. He sleeps in a hospital and I feel like I'm just here to take care of his needs. Most of the time he stays in his room and only comes out when he needs something. Our whole life revolves around his needs and we have completely lost our relationship.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 01:26 PM

Good morning! I'm not a spouse, I'm a sister. But from the moment my sister was in need ~ her SPOUSE behaved as if it wasn't that big of a deal and basically, in the end has abandoned her while still living in the house next door.

my sister lives with our mother and father and i go over monday thru friday and take care of her needs... and her husband goes to work and out with his new girlfriend and gets on with his life.

it's the most disgusting thing i've ever seen...

so... i think that if your income meets the criteria, you should be able to get some care-giver hours that a person can come in and perhaps take him to his outpatient therapy or help him to get up in the morning, do range of motions, get dressed, bath or something.

you can hire people you know ~ which is called a consumer model or you can get the independent living rep to set it up where they find an organization and eventually an employee of that organization to come out and be your helper.

but there is a ton of paperwork to do in order for that to go thru and it also takes MONTHS to process.

does your husband have any siblings or a mother who would come over and help for a while?

my mom ends up doing the lions share now... although, back when my sister was in the hospital ~ it was me doing the lions share... but i know it would kill my mom if she didn't have me and our one assistant to come in and take the burden off her.

how are you making out at night time and turning your husband? can he help some?

one thing that helped us ~ we got a huge pill box with multiple slots for doses... and we only had to add one more row on it to cover meds from morning till night for a week... and i load that up at the start of each week and it works really well :)

i think that your husband likely doesn't want to be in this position, he probably sees that you're getting tired and he's mad as heck because there is nothing that he can do about it... it's a phase of life right now.

i wish that my sister's husband would have stayed an active and contributing part of the caregiving team... but he just dumped it all on us and carried on with life...

i hope you both make it (together)

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 03:08 PM

It is a tough road you are on, that's for sure, and then you have two little ones that need both you and your husband. I think that's partially why my husband did not turn bitter like yours. He saw how much his daughter was hurting now that he could not do what he used to do and he decided to become a good example for her. To show her how to triumph over tragedy in a graceful way.

But back to your question about how someone "does it". You're going to have to figure out some time for yourself. Find something that feeds your soul. And don't feel guilty about it (easier said than done!) Because if you don't take time to recharge yourself, you could end up with health problems of your own.

You mention believing in God. Does your husband share that belief and if you are part of a church, are there some folks you are close with who could come give you a break?

One of our neighbors ended up coming over several times a week and spending time with my husband. It was really good for him.

I hope all goes well for you. I cannot write any more now --am heading out for my weekly walk with my girlfriends. That's what I did when my husband was injured ---called in my "own angels" to help me keep flying. You need to do that to. I don't know what form your angels come in, but they are there.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 04:14 PM

Dear Jen, all is NOT lost.

My husband has a much lower injury, but due to constant pain and other health issues, he is bedridden about 98% of the time. It has been 16 years and our children were very small when this new life began. There are rough spots all along and you figure them out as you go. I have always done everything myself without outside help and somehow made it through the isolation until I found this site actually, I think last August, it was. I'm just trying to give you a little picture to say that it CAN be done and that even with small children you can make it through this with your marriage intact.

You said that 'if you didn't love God so much you would leave but you made a vow to him and you're going to stick with it.'

That right there means that you have a lot more going for you than you realize. God never said bad things wouldn't happen, but He does say that he will be with you always. Sometimes when things are especially hard, we forget to look for Him and listen to Him, our feelings of hopeless isolation seem to great to bear and we do not realize that He uses every situation for His purpose. He is polishing you.

Marriage isn't what I once thought it was. I never knew that at times it would actually be hard, no, down-right gut-wrenching, but I also didn't know how wonderful it can be either, and that the hard stuff is what makes it better and better and that it is soooo worth it. Of course it doesn't feel like that at the time. It only feels like that once you have made it through that giant pothole in the road that you thought would swallow you up.

Yes, it feels like the whole world revolves around your husband's needs, there aren't enough hours in the day, you are tired and seem to only get more tired and you become disappointed in yourself for not having the energy to be your best for everyone who needs you to. Your worries accumulate about everything under the sun and your hope becomes a distant memory. You feel like there is just not enough of you to do everything and that you're only guessing how to do things anyway. You find yourself wondering about your children, how you can possibly take care of all their needs when you are having to do so much for your husband and how will they turn out? How are they going to make it through this? And your husband, you're not even sure where his head is, you haven't had the chance to find out because some urgent thing needs taking care of, you feel separate from him like existing in the same household without the closeness you once had. You feel lost, alone, and you just know that deep down in your soul things are not suppose to be this way. As for friends and family, no, they do not get it. If you haven't lived it, you don't get it. Believe me, I do know how you feel.

I'll say it again, "All is not lost."

There are so many things you can do to help yourself get to that place where the burdens are not overpowering you, where you can see the light of day and renew, where the possibilities and solutions can become clear.

I honestly have to say the best thing that has worked for me is to set aside some quiet time. I know it seems impossible, but it's not. This was something that I discussed with my husband and I told him I needed two hours in the morning of uninterrupted time. Of course, what I had to do was to get up earlier before the rest of the household, before the start of everyone else's day. Yeah, this meant a little less sleep for me, but I wasn't getting much anyway. It was interesting at first because I started out having no clue what to do with that time! It had been sooo long since I had actual time without someone else in it, I just sat there and tried not to watch the clock and I would listen to the quiet just waiting for a sound from one of the family. It actually took awhile of doing this before I could relax enough to let myself think on other things. Slowly I began to use the time in different ways. Sometimes something would happen and I wouldn't get that time, but that made me look forward to the next time I did have that morning chance. It has made a lot of difference for me to have those two hours to empty my head and it is rejuevenating.

For your husband in his hospital bed in the other room....I will just tell you what we've done and give you something to think about.

My husband is in bed and when I say almost all of the time, that is literal. I would go in and out of that bedroom and most of household life with the kids and the chores would take place outside of that room and it only added to that feeling of separate-ness. I made it a point to have family dinner in there with him which turned into family time with dinner & a movie. While all that was well and good, the rest of the time was still separate. I was separate from him by all I needed to do and he was left alone in there for the most part....with his pain, his thoughts, in his own isolation and frustration.

My bright idea one day was that he needed to be more near the activites of the family. Since we had dinner & a movie with him, we had stopped using our dinningroom which happens to look into the kitchen, and we all know how much takes place there. So the "bedroom" was moved into the diningroom along with the big Tv, of course. What this did for us, I cannot begin to describe. It gave us more time together. It gave the kids more time to interact with their dad. In all the usual comings and goings, running of the household, availability and convenience, it gave my husband the opportunity to be with us and us with him, because now he is located at the center of the most activities that take place besides just his needs. It did a lot for everyone's frame of mind.

I have another thought I just want to add in here, that you might give some thought to as well.

In the beginning I was working full-time when our kids were in elementary school, and besides taking care of my husband, I was also taking care of my mother-in-law who had kidney failure, so she had dialysis 3 days per week, I also took her to doctor's appointments and took care of her house and errands which amounted to 7 days per week for her on top of everything else. It was too much, really and of course I worried about our kids who I felt like I barely got to be with. I discussed this at length with my husband and though he wasn't thrilled at the time I wanted to quit my job and homeschool our children. I not only wanted to be there more, but to me this was a practical solution, also considering how it is sometimes difficult to coordinate everthing with the medical stuff which you get surprised with.

I have to say this was the best decision I have ever made in my entire life, my husband now agrees and I will tell you why....

You know how when your kids were babies and they had all those "firsts"? You know the first word, the first steps, all those first times they did or discovered something new? And how many of those were you present for? How many times did you see it and your husband wasn't there because he was working or you weren't there because you were doing something and he was with them or grandma was with them, or they were at school where none of us knows what really goes on there every minute of the day, anyway?

We have two kids, boy & girl, and while I did most of the homeschooling, my husband helped and it was perfect because he's right here in the middle of everything. He has helped so much more than he realizes. Our kids are practically grown. Our son is in his Junior year at University doing fabulously and working a full-time job at the same time, and our daughter who just graduated high-school will go to university this Fall. They are both wonderful people with heads on their shoulders, they are leaders and do not follow the crowd, they have opinions and ideas and have a firm foundation from which they exhibit wise decision-making skills, they know how to do things many adults do not know how to do, they can carry on intelligent conversations with any age any level they are compassionate, have many interests and have admirable goals. And why? Because of my husband's injury. Because of that catastrophic event that changed our lives and nearly ripped us apart, we were blessed with the opportunity to be together and to have a direct hand on preparing our children for adulthood, on watching every expression every response every new experience and influence in their lives and do our best to get them ready to face the world in all it's wonders and the evils. Together my husband and I have made this thing into being about our kids and we are both so grateful for what happened to him so that our lives could turn out this way, helping to equip to great human beings.

Right now you are saying, sure, but that is afar off, what about now?

I know it doesn't feel like it right now, but you do have so many possibilites. First you need to somehow get yourself that little block of time so that you can give your arms a rest from holding those heavy burdens up over your head. Then you need to get your husband into your life. Now don't say, "That's all I do! Everything is about him!" No, doing all the things you do have become so heavy that it just seems like it. You have to learn to share the burden with him and that means you have to talk. His being in that room while you do what you have to do isn't helping. The hospital bed isn't helping either and you need to think about a new bed you can both fit in.

You cannot know what is going on in his head and causing his behavior just he cannot know what is going on with you and causing yours unless you talk. Yeah, I know that is hard to initiate. But you can begin non-verbally with affection. Sometimes making an effort beyond what you really feel like at the time can do wonders for both of you. You may not even realize it but you miss being touched too. Begin with those quick and small things. When you give him his meds, pause, touch his cheek and look into his eyes for a moment. Don't say anything...just smile and then go about your business. The next thing you need to do for him....pause and touch him for a moment. It will speak volumes for you.

And I seriously have to tell you to climb up on that bed with him! I don't care if your hanging off the edge or if you have to climb up on top of him so you can plant a kiss on his lips and then go and do whatever you need to do, because nothing will change unless you step out of the norm that you are unhappy with. He will come along.

He has a picture in his head of what he thinks he is supposed to be for you and because of his injury, he thinks he can no longer be that guy and he doesn't know what to do or who to be. Things seem impossible to him, just like you, you have that picture in your head about what your life would be like and this isn't it. You both have to let go of those pictures. It's hard, because we've had them our whole lives, but this is not the end of it, it is a beginning in a new and different way. It's a mulligan, a do over and if you want to make it work you are going to find that life is going to be actually better and more fullfilling than you ever imagined it could be.

You're so worn out you can't even think? Go in there and be with him. "Honey, I just need to sit here for a minute....Do you know the first thing I noticed about you when we met?"

A conversation about what attracted you to each other can take you out of the present for a minute so that both of you can appreciate each other and remember why you are together. Love is bigger than any problem could ever be. Tell him. Expose your heart to him. He needs to know that you want to find a way through this, just like he needs to know when you are feeling overwhelmed. Learn to take some rest WITH HIM. Allow him to be a source of comfort to you. Not only will this make you feel good, it will make him realize something he can do for you and that is a biggy for him, especially now.

It is the same with the kids. You can have them helping you in so many ways. You are teaching them at the same time. Your husband can be involved with them, there are things he can do to make his own relationship with them grow, but you have to make sure they spend much needed time together in order to do that. They can also help you with your husband by learning to take part in his care, even with the smallest of things. At 4 and 6 they are capable of being really great helpers and that's what they love to do.

Your challenge is to find different ways to do things, ways that work for your household. You think the world revolves around your husband when really the world revolves around you, they take their cues from you, they pattern their moods from you....You are QUEEN. You are going to get in there and do something out of the ordinary, you aren't going to follow the norm because there isn't one any more. It's up to you to make your new norm.

So get in there and have a picnic with your kids and your husband. Yeah, right there on his bed if you can. Be goofy. Have FUN! We had a king-sized bed when the kids were younger. They climbed up with us and we did so many fun things together there. Seriously, think about it, think about what fun family things you can do right where HE is.

It is really strange that when you decide to do something different, a special treat for the family, how it gives everyone a boost! And that right there is a little bit of being good to yourself as well. Be on the hunt for little joys. You are in a special place where the work is the hardest, the pain is great, your emotions get wrung through a ringer, but the rewards are countless. You are going to get through this and many other things, because it is the hard places that teach you what is truly important to you. Once you start finding those, it just gets better and better.

Do what you can for 'this day'. Don't make it any bigger than today. I have confidence in you. Be good to yourself, you're going to be fine.
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I have to apologize for the length of this post, everyone, but I do have high hopes for this person and the others out there who are in the middle of similar situations.

Edited by mcwriter, 13 February 2011 - 04:35 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2011 - 04:48 PM

Hi Jen,

I am in the exact same situation as yourself. The only difference is that my boys were 4 & 6 at the time of Pauls injury. Paul is a C5/6 complete and it's also been 2 years for us. Just have comfort in knowing that you are not alone. Some people have it worse... some better. We are not married, we are both athiest, and I am with him because I want to be... not because of a "vow" I made. From the beginning I told Paul that if I didn't feel appreciated or if he changed his personality that would be the end of us. He has no problem with this because he does appreciate me, and he is still the funny guy he always was. Granted it didn't start out that way... but positive thinking goes a long way.

When he came home I did all the care plus the kids and the house. I know exactly what you are going through. It's so overwhelming! The problem you have is that you cannot do it all. You will break down and in your situation you are not allowed to do so. I live in Canada so I cannot advise you on how to receive care for your husband... but I can tell you what we receive. We get 60hrs a month. I use it this way - 1 hr a day for getting dressed and stretches - everyother day - 2 hrs for shower and bp. So it's 1 hr one day and 2 hr the next. I put Paul to bed every night which can get hard here and there just because I can't go to bed at my own leisure. So, I use whatever hrs. are left over for overnight care so I can get out once or twice a month. I use to go spend the night at my mothers, but now I stay home most of the time and just relax for the night with Paul and fall asleep whenever I want to. It's just nice to do when I have the chance. It's seems like such a small thing but it really makes a huge difference.

I hated doing Pauls bp. I really think that is where we cross the line in our caretaker/ spousal role. If you can at least avoid doing that to start perhaps you will find your relationship again. When I finally had the care for Paul and I stopped doing is bp that was the biggest turing point in our relationship. I felt guilty at first, but I have learned that guilt is the most damaging emotion. You have to let it go and think of yourself!

You are the only one who can hold it all together. If you break than everything will crumble. So, you are most important. Once your mind heals, only then will you know if you can handle it. You need help ASAP! If you get the help and things are still the same then you have to face it. I talked to Paul about a plan if we were to seperate. I needed to get it out there and off my mind. It was hard, lots of tears and depression, but it only made us stronger because I knew I was with him because I wanted to be... not out of pity. I had to know this in my heart. Don't let him treat you badly, you are not doing your children a favour when you let them live in a miserable surrounding. You may as well be on your own if that's the case. Get help, tell him, try everything you can... if it doesn't work after all of that, don't let the guilt make you stay! I hope this helps you and if you have any qustions pm me.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 08:01 PM

Hi Jen. reading your post was like reading my diary. my husband is an incomplete c5 from 2008. my kids were 8 and 10 at the time of injury. their little lives didn't know what hit them! i can say the only way i survived was not allowing this to defeat us as a family or me as a person. it was a tough fight and still is today. i accepted help from family with the kids, housework, yardwork, finances, etc whether i liked it or not (did not). i swallowed my pride and accepted anything handed my way. otherwise i would not have been able to dedicate 8+ hours per day to my husband in rehab for 12 weeks. once he got home we went to outpatient therapy 4x per week for months and months. it was exhausting and i literally thought i'd lose my mind. my husband regained some mobility and was able to do wheelchair transfers, weight shifts during the night, catheters, bp, showers after about 6 months at home with limited use of the right side. he had to learn to compensate and use the left side as much as possible. had he not been able to accomplish these things on his own, i would have definitely needed to bring in an aide to help him. (i had a job 20 hours per week too). so if you are 2 years post injury and still doing all those things for your husband, get help! it's too much for one person w/small kids to handle. you are not alone even though it feels like it. i understand your fear and frustration, sadness and hopelessness. i pray things get better for you and your family.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:57 PM

My husband is also C5C6. I know exactly how you feel. We have four children ages 13, 12 , 10 , and 1. My husband has been in a wheelchair for six and a half years. I have also been looking for someone in the same situation as us. I PM you with more about my life. Please know you are not alone.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 10:00 PM

View Postmcwriter, on 13 February 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

For your husband in his hospital bed in the other room....I will just tell you what we've done and give you something to think about.

My husband is in bed and when I say almost all of the time, that is literal. I would go in and out of that bedroom and most of household life with the kids and the chores would take place outside of that room and it only added to that feeling of separate-ness. I made it a point to have family dinner in there with him which turned into family time with dinner & a movie. While all that was well and good, the rest of the time was still separate. I was separate from him by all I needed to do and he was left alone in there for the most part....with his pain, his thoughts, in his own isolation and frustration.

My bright idea one day was that he needed to be more near the activites of the family. Since we had dinner & a movie with him, we had stopped using our dinningroom which happens to look into the kitchen, and we all know how much takes place there. So the "bedroom" was moved into the diningroom along with the big Tv, of course. What this did for us, I cannot begin to describe. It gave us more time together. It gave the kids more time to interact with their dad. In all the usual comings and goings, running of the household, availability and convenience, it gave my husband the opportunity to be with us and us with him, because now he is located at the center of the most activities that take place besides just his needs. It did a lot for everyone's frame of mind.


Dear Mc,

This is outstanding advice.

A lot of the trouble comes from two competing lives, being the normal pre-existing life of couple and family, versus what appears to be a nightmare life of catastrophic disabiity.

The key, as you so rightly point out, is to face up to the fact that you only have one life, one husband, one father for your children and if you wish to be happy, you must embrace that life. In this view, the physical organization is key. You must not have the stricken individual compartmented off in a room somewhere, into which you enter (entering at the same time the nightmare), holding your nose, wiping the shit and then exiting again into the normal side of the house. The bed/sitting area must be directly included in the main family area. In this way, the relationships are facilitated on all levels. Any other set-up is a structural system of exclusion. Apartheid.

In our house, the kitchen gives on the dining room and the dining room gives on the living room. The living room is the master bedroom. Hence the dining room takes on the main focus of the house, it is where we eat, and do lessons (4 kids). There are five computer terminals along the walls. A table. One big couch. Basically everything happens there, and the kids are under supervision from the kitchen, when cooking, or from the bedroom while resting. There is a curtain which provides privacy as required (because privacy is also required) but there is no need ever to raise one`s voice in order to communicate from one room to the other. There is definitely never any of that distasteful shouting from a closed room across the width of the house or appartement to the kitchen, shouting which always gets answered with a challenging W-H-A-T-T-T ! ? !

So once again... Thanks for pointing this out. If you want something to happen, you have to organize a space in which it CAN happen.

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 02:58 PM

It's nice to hear that someone else is doing something similar with the arrangement of the household. We tried the master bedroom in the livingroom thing for awhile, but I wanted to have more of the option for privacy since my daughter often has kids from our block to our house, and the front door opens into the livingroom. If my husband is taking a nap, I will close the curtain between the livingroom & the diningroom (our master bedroom).

I have to point out though, that it is interesting that the neighborhood kids just take our weird arrangement in stride. When my daughter has parties or sleepovers, the livingroom is the place and they enjoy my husband and his jokes and they are always showcasing for us. The other nice thing about that is, it is easy to supervise their activities when we are right there--Aha!

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 03:23 AM

I'm the spouse to a C5 quad, and sometimes feel them same (no children for us)! I sent you a personal message. I feel there's no qualified help in our area. Some of the home health agencies here are a joke, most ask if they can stand to get into the chair or how the BP works...the list goes on & on...and it's about the same in the local hospital here. I'm also in your shoes, I know your ups & downs, feel free to PM me!

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 04:12 AM

I am new to all of this, my husband is C6-T1 incomplete and it has been a year and a half since his accident. I get overwhelmed at times and then I try to get back up and choose to be grateful for just a warm place, a roof over our head and food on the table. And literally, I have to think of things to be thankful for. We live in a very small mobile home that is not handicap accessible but it does the job. We have a 6 year old son that is, I believe angry that his dad can't do some of the things he used to with him, so my husband and him are always bumping heads. I also could use the support, so feel free to message anytime. I am just learning this site so bare with me. Keep your head up and we have our days and it is perfectly normal just let's try not to stay there and help each other out of those rough times.

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 08:52 PM

Hi all. Firstly hats off to all of you who are juggling being mummy's and carers at the same time. :clap:

Give youreselves a pat on the back, I find it really inspiring reading about your stories. We have no children (yet) but I struggle just to look after hubby so I would say don't be too hard on yourselves. As other people have said including the disabled person in the household activities as much as possible is important and taking time out for yourself (I know you are thinking I don't have the time). I have to ask though for those of you that state they sleep in a hospital bed is this really necessary - and please don't be offende at the question...we have just a normal queen bed we share with our multitude of cats and spending that night time together is invaluable and goes a long way towards making us feel we have a 'normal life'. someone suggested once that we should sleep in different rooms and we said what for - we're married. Often peole also assume that we don't sleep together.

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 10:26 PM

i'm a c 6 quad and have two daughters. i carried them from the chair. i had attendants for years and one year my aide went away for a week and i was able to do great without her. once i realized all i was able to do for myself i felt ready to tackle children. i carried them from the wheelchair and really only meant to have one but that extra margaritta put an end to that plan. so i have 2 daughters 22 months apart in age. i would put them in a stroller and push them around the house. i often think that if someone is offered care 24/7 they won't learn to be independant. i think a quad should be able to contribute eqaually to the care of children. i had parttime nanny's until the girls started school and i taught them early to listen and obey.

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hi fellow gimps! i'm a c 6/7 quad and have been injured since 1986. i was in a roll over hydroplane accident and it took hours for the paramedics to get me out of the car in the pouring rain. that definately wasn't my day. but alas life goes on!

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 04:53 PM

View Postchickaviator, on 13 February 2011 - 08:40 AM, said:

I am a wife to a C5 C6 quad and I am just wondering if there are any other wives out here that are in the same position. We have two children who are 4 and 6 and I am the only caregiver and I am worn down to the core. Honestly, I just don't know how much more I can take. My question is, if you are out there...how do you do it? Between the lifting, the bathing, the bowel program, the constant meds, it's all wearing me down as I try to take care of our precious children and give them the most normal lives possible. It seems like something is always breaking in the house and I'm having to fix all of the things he used to do. My husband has become very bitter and he takes it out on me which really hurts. He's been injured for two years and I never knew just how hard our lives were going to be. If I didn't love God so much I would leave but I made a vow to him and I am going to stick with it.

I just would really like to talk with someone in the same situation. I have wonderful friends but I don't know think they really get it plus I can never tell them how awful he acts or I'm afraid they wouldn't want to come around and I desperately need my friends. I feel so isolated already.

Thank you so much,
Jen

Jen,

I am getting married to a C5 quad this coming August. We both know there is a lot ahead of us in our relationship, but we are trusting the Lord to see us through each day. That's what it's all about. You have to take one day at a time, and trust in the strength of the Lord. He has promised to never leave His children. It sounds like your husband really is struggling to see that there is any hope. Hope comes from the Lord - does your husband have a relationship with God?

My situation is a bit different, because my fiance had his injury before I met him. Regardless, we want to reach out and offer what help we can. My fiance has a website that we would like to share with you that has the testimony of his accident and how God has brought him this far with his injury. Please check it out, and maybe let your husband have a look too.
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 07:23 PM

Good afternoon I am not a family member or caregiver but I am a student physical therapist who has had some exposure of patients with spinal cord injuries in our classes. I do know that it is a heavy burden but I think that you are such a great person for hanging in there and taking care of your husband. It is a lot to handle especially with children in the picture. Have you ever considered taking a break and spending a day/night out of the week to meet up with friends/family? It is important to have alone time away from the family life to talk with others and distract oneself. Also, are there any other family members that could also help out to take off some load? Either way, I know that you are a very good hearted woman and deserve so much for all that you do.

God Bless!

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 12:26 AM

View Postsci25, on 12 April 2011 - 07:23 PM, said:

Good afternoon I am not a family member or caregiver but I am a student physical therapist who has had some exposure of patients with spinal cord injuries in our classes. I do know that it is a heavy burden but I think that you are such a great person for hanging in there and taking care of your husband. It is a lot to handle especially with children in the picture. Have you ever considered taking a break and spending a day/night out of the week to meet up with friends/family? It is important to have alone time away from the family life to talk with others and distract oneself. Also, are there any other family members that could also help out to take off some load? Either way, I know that you are a very good hearted woman and deserve so much for all that you do.

God Bless!

While I agree that each person needs alone time - why is it always that people tend to assume that couples with a SCI should have break away from each other - particularly when you are in a relationship shouldn't there also be some encouragement to do things together as a couple? i get sick of the attitude sometimes that as my husband's caregiver I should vacation away from my husband when we would like to have a holiday together as a family sometimes too. I think this is often neglected when it comes to AB/SCI relationships as there tends to be too much emphasis on the caregiver to have breaks and not enough thought put into the disabled person and the fact that they are a couple who would probably enjoy doing things together!

By all means having channels of communication with other people is important also and getting out and about and socialising as an individual to meet with friends but there are two sides that need to be adressed. So I think both things need to be taken into consideration. I havn't had a holiday or day of in three years and people are often trying to force my husband into a home so I can have a break out of concern for me but they never seem to realise it may be nice for us to go somewhere together to have a break and enjoy each other's company.

BTW I also think that terming people's disability as a burden is offensive & abusive as this use of expressing it to the disbled person can result in them getting depressed, making have feelings of worhtlessness and I have also known disabled people to kill themselves over comments like this - so something to be aware of in your studies towards P.T. I understand that by burden you mean there is a lot of work involved for both parties but firmly believe it should be expressed appropriately. Have you ever thought what it would be like for you if someone was referring to you being a burden all the time - how would it make you feel? I seriously encourage you to think about that particularly if you are going to have a lot of involvement with the disable community in your work you should be careful about the things that you say and think about the way it could impact/effect other people's lives. Seems like you have a lot to learn. :nono:

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:30 AM

View Postsci25, on 12 April 2011 - 07:23 PM, said:

Good afternoon I am not a family member or caregiver but I am a student physical therapist who has had some exposure of patients with spinal cord injuries in our classes. I do know that it is a heavy burden but I think that you are such a great person for hanging in there and taking care of your husband. It is a lot to handle especially with children in the picture. Have you ever considered taking a break and spending a day/night out of the week to meet up with friends/family? It is important to have alone time away from the family life to talk with others and distract oneself. Also, are there any other family members that could also help out to take off some load? Either way, I know that you are a very good hearted woman and deserve so much for all that you do.

God Bless!


I think challenging rather than a burden , is more appropriate , I know many sci's who have lost their self esteem due to constant referals to their SCI being a heavy burden on family and friends , what kind of burden do you think it puts on them as individuals and people of worth who deserve some respect , it is very challenging for family members , but possitive strategies by both parties can improve situations to some extent , as you are now an "Expert" due to your minimal exposure to SCI's in class we all look forward to your expertees in solving all our challenges .
I recently had a friend drive their electric chair into a swimming pool and drown them selves due to the constant referals , to their sci , being a heavy burden on their family .
Think about how you word things and grow up a little , your therapy Classes are not the real world reality for many SCI's and their Families .
The only people who live a blissful existence must be totally ignorant ( I may have an SCI but my personality [or lack of ] is a pre-existing condition )

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:31 AM

Wow. It's eye opening to hear the other side (I'm the injured one-lower level with two little ones). You are living examples of family for your kids and God will give you what you need to get through each day.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:13 AM

I think challenging rather than a burden , is more appropriate , I know many sci's who have lost their self esteem due to constant referals to their SCI being a heavy burden on family and friends , what kind of burden do you think it puts on them as individuals and people of worth who deserve some respect , it is very challenging for family members , but possitive strategies by both parties can improve situations to some extent , as you are now an "Expert" due to your minimal exposure to SCI's in class we all look forward to your expertees in solving all our challenges .
I recently had a friend drive their electric chair into a swimming pool and drown them selves due to the constant referals , to their sci , being a heavy burden on their family .
Think about how you word things and grow up a little , your therapy Classes are not the real world reality for many SCI's and their Families .
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I really like the use of the word "challenge" rather than "burden". It truly sums up how I feel about our situation. "Burden" implies that everyone else has to do all the work. But the truth is, my husband has his own part in caring for everyone else too. He has to keep his mind focused, he has to try new things for himself, etc... So "challenge" implies that were more like a team. Which we are. Without his positive attitude I would not survive. I love my man and I really hope that these men will come around mentally and pitch in for the sake of thier families.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:54 AM

View Postchickaviator, on 13 February 2011 - 08:40 AM, said:

I am a wife to a C5 C6 quad and I am just wondering if there are any other wives out here that are in the same position. We have two children who are 4 and 6 and I am the only caregiver and I am worn down to the core. Honestly, I just don't know how much more I can take. My question is, if you are out there...how do you do it? Between the lifting, the bathing, the bowel program, the constant meds, it's all wearing me down as I try to take care of our precious children and give them the most normal lives possible. It seems like something is always breaking in the house and I'm having to fix all of the things he used to do. My husband has become very bitter and he takes it out on me which really hurts. He's been injured for two years and I never knew just how hard our lives were going to be. If I didn't love God so much I would leave but I made a vow to him and I am going to stick with it.

I just would really like to talk with someone in the same situation. I have wonderful friends but I don't know think they really get it plus I can never tell them how awful he acts or I'm afraid they wouldn't want to come around and I desperately need my friends. I feel so isolated already.

Thank you so much,
Jen
Hello I am a girlfriend of a c5,6 & 7 he is also a quad. I know it is hard and it's only been a couple of months for us. I am also the only caregiver with 2 kids also ages 8 1/2 and 3 1/2. It is very hard I understand when u say you don't have anyone to talk to . Somedays I don't know if I can take it and others I think I can. The hardest part is never having time for me.It seems that when the kids aren't calling me for something he is. I feel like i'm going crazy and at times a little selfish for wanting just a few minutes to myself where I don't have to get up and do anything. When he was first shot I never imagined that he was going to be paralized let alone unable to do anything for himself. Then when we were told he would never walk again and he has less than a 5% chance that he will ever get use of his arms everyone said they were going to be here to help.And now that time has come no one is here but me. His family never comes around and my family helps when they can . It's still hard. I do feel like i'm isolated from the world now and wonder what the future holds for us. I ask god everynight if it is going to get any better. Some days are good but most are ruff. He wants to sit in the dark all the time and say mean and hurtful things to me.I just keep telling myself it's going to get worse before it gets better. I just pray that it gets better soon. Cuz like you I am worn out I am tired all the time. I question are my kids going to have harsh feelings towards me and/or him when they get older because with his injury we aren't able to do alot of things we use to do. I do hope that things get better for you. I don't always have access to a computer you can e-mail me at elainej25@yahoo.com if you would like to chat.

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 12:52 PM

Jen - I am not a wife, but a mother to a c5/c6 daughter. She is 25 and a single mother. I took care of her for the 1st month after she was discharged from the hospital. YOU NEED HELP. I had my husband, her step-father, who was a savior during this time. You can't do it alone and we found very fast that family are probably not the best caretakers. She took her anger out on us. She now has caretakers come in and take care of her. There are organizations out there that will help pay for caretakers as well. It is alot of work. Take care!



View Postchickaviator, on 13 February 2011 - 08:40 AM, said:

I am a wife to a C5 C6 quad and I am just wondering if there are any other wives out here that are in the same position. We have two children who are 4 and 6 and I am the only caregiver and I am worn down to the core. Honestly, I just don't know how much more I can take. My question is, if you are out there...how do you do it? Between the lifting, the bathing, the bowel program, the constant meds, it's all wearing me down as I try to take care of our precious children and give them the most normal lives possible. It seems like something is always breaking in the house and I'm having to fix all of the things he used to do. My husband has become very bitter and he takes it out on me which really hurts. He's been injured for two years and I never knew just how hard our lives were going to be. If I didn't love God so much I would leave but I made a vow to him and I am going to stick with it.

I just would really like to talk with someone in the same situation. I have wonderful friends but I don't know think they really get it plus I can never tell them how awful he acts or I'm afraid they wouldn't want to come around and I desperately need my friends. I feel so isolated already.

Thank you so much,
Jen


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Posted 25 April 2011 - 09:01 AM

Go Simba :hug:

When I got sci, some blokes felt it appropriate to ask 'could i still have sex and if you dont know could i try and find out with them?'
hhhuuummmm never had i got this chat up line before. Also it was said 'oooo I bet you would be well grateful for a bloke to look after you, not many would'.....really? This was from aquitences I knew pre-sci, also what was said is 'i would never have asked you before as i wouldnt have had a chance. Now you still look nice but are a cripple so you would appreciate us, like buying a car that was the top of its class in the day, cheaper with a few bits of wear and tear as it got more worn, but ok just the same'. hhhhuuuummmmm . No thank you.

Mr cloud said he would rather hang around with me and do not much, being with me is whats important. He stll has his other life with family and friends as do I. A healthy mix. Just as he can go drive off to places, so do I get the time to see me friends, it works for us.

Although I arrange me boys to have fun outside of being with me, this is natural and what all kids like to do. Again they are just as happy with me hanging around home, laughing, giggling, chatting. I make sure I have me friends to go to shows with,visit me, as he feels he can have a rest from always looking out for me when i am with friends, i would like them not to feel so much responsibility but they say they love me, they do it because it makes them happy.

Ask me kids or mr cloud, family and friends what they would like to do, they say hang with me. Burden no. Human who cant get out much yes. But who needs places when theirs people about?

I am thankful for the simbas of the world, i am thankful for the mreyelookgood of the world. Its about time someone pointed out what you said...and if people decide to open their eyes and peek at what they say, they too could have this outlook on life too :-) try it for a day, it wont damage you to try life on the positive happy side of life like these two in a good marriage do :) :wub:

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 05:16 AM

So glad to have found this! I am 12 months out from my fiancé 's injury on 4th of July 2010 he became a c5 c6 quad after diving into pur pool 4th of july. We are both extremely active surfing wakeboarding outdoors camping boating. After his accident we had to close his classic car business and I stopped working as well to dedicate myself to taking care of him. He is extremely privte and I am the only one he wants helping him. We also live in a small town which makes it hard to find help and not have him be embarrassed because we may know them or see them. it's been over a year since we've spent more then a few hours apart. I understand how frustrating it is to do everything yourself and I don't even have kids yet. Especially my man who is 6'2" 250lbs and extremely strong and such a handily man. We have a large house and 4 acres to maintain It can be so over whellming at times and frustrating for both of us but we are both dedicated to keeping our lives vary much the same just adapting to his new condition. I am so blessed to have such a positive man!!!! We ordered a pool lift for our pool the same one he was injured in and we are saling our wakeboarding boat for a plontoon boat. Our friends help him in the boat for now we were just on the lake today. I find when I feel the worst I either need a break or we need a datenight. I am so proud of everyone on here and hope u stay strong on your journey together we are both under 30 and looking forward to the future best of luck and stay positive!!!!!!

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 12:41 AM

hello my name is michelle and my husband is c4 c5 quadraplegic although we dont have children i am his primary care giver and can relate to getting burned out do you have services in your state that help pay for another care giver to come in my husband gets in home support services wich pays for some one to come in 198 hours out of the month to help although they dont pay much it is possible to find some one and you do the hiring and training i would love to corospond more with you

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:04 PM

I feel the same way as you. My husband recently had accident in august of 2011, and brought him home in october. I'm 28 and he 31. We have a son-2 and step son on his side that is 9. been together since 2003. He's my best friend. I miss that we don't laugh anymore. I try to make conversation and inquire about what thinking and I get nothing. doesn't look me in eyes not that before this happened we would stare at each other while talking but i'm used to him making some contact through out talk. We made beautiful love together before and when he came home I set up a romantic evening. Victoria secrects wear, his favorite perfume, the whole nine yards! And i knew going in that was big chance of no arrousal or feeling of stimulas on his part, anyways after getting him into bed and then prep myself for grand enterance he said don't really want to. Maybe he was not wanting confirmation that he may never satisfy his wife anymore but he didn't care that i just wanted to be as close as physically possible to him. since then we've tried multiple times even me pulling him on top of me and assisting in holding him up.(keep in mind im 5'6"160lbs and him 5'11"180lbs)He just seems disinterested in me. since then I don't approch him with any thing sexually or fooling around. And he doesn't ask for it. I figure if he desired me in whatever form he would say like used to before but nothing yet. We don't kiss anymore or hug or any ohpsical contact except for when i transfer bathe and put clothes on him. I'm getting used to not being shown love verbely or physically. It hurts so bad to feel like your dying inside. I've turned into his butler instead of his helping wife. When he wants something i better do right away regarless if dealing with screaming toddler to if im in the shower. He's seen me cry and in pain from hard transfers. Yet will not let me rest. I'm not allowed to take naps anymore cause whose gonna light and put out his cigarettes? Doesn't go to Phys.therapy on reg schedule if he wants to sleep in. And that is only time i'm able to grocery shop.2days a week for 1 hour. So it sucks when run out of something and living in town with only two bars and gass station and the nearedt town is 45 min away. Won't go on dates with me or outside. But when it something he want to do that has nothing to do with me id better make it work whether it takes transfering in and out of suv 10 times in hour and half. If want to go by self somewhere he accuses me of wanting to ditch him. And I feel guilty so i don't ask if can go out anymore. Got him a android cell for him . which he pays attention to more than me and. and he's gotten pretty good ot working the web and calling since october, but if ask to help make calls to set up appts or arrange for a family member to watch kids he puts it off and says thats my thing. Valentines day was horrible got him gunmetal brushed chain with cross anf card and he no anything for me. excuse was doesn't know how to get me anything or look for on web. Yet he's ordered RC cars and parts and You Tubes everything! Can call people for weed but can't ask my sister to grab flowers for me. I'm just tired of his excuses, laziness, defyency, selfishness. I cant do it anymore. BUt I can't leave. I know noone else would take care of him . His family barely calls and the one aunt that lives 5 miles away has stopped by once for 5 min. His best friend where the accident happened doesn't really come over like before wither. I'm seculed and going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I feel awfull for even writing this. I should be gratefull he's alive. He's hoping that he'll get hands& legs back, But i doubt it. I'm scared of how gonna take care of my family financially. If i have to for rest of my life take of my huisband? Do i deserve that.? I don't know, I'm just venting. gotta go he mad im takingtoo lkong on computer.BYe

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:50 PM

@StrongMama, first, my heart goes out to you and your family. Second, it sounds as though you need to find some assistance ASAP. You have come to the right place for lots of great advice from people who have been exactly where you are (and who have been exactly where your husband is). Have you been in contact with your state's department of health and human services? They can probably either help you directly, or guide to services that are available to your family. I

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:19 PM

Strong Mama:

I don't care how injured your guy is - that's no excuse to treat you disrespectfully. Good manners - please, thank you, etc., are always required. Stop letting this guy push you around.

You gave yourself the name - Strong Mama. Then act that way and stand up to this guy. It won't kill him to be kind and respectful. But you've let him get away with being rude so you'll have to be patient as he relearns how to stop acting as a petulant child and start being an adult. You can start by telling him you will only respond to him when he says "please" and stops barking orders at you. Let him sit there and stew until he can be nice. You'll be doing him a favor by re-teaching him some manners. Afterall, one day he may have to speak to folks outside of you and trust me - they won't stick around if he's a jerk as you describe here.

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