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#31 Jeam

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 04:00 PM

Sport-On posted a new video on their youtube channel. And it's really impresive. I like Lasher ATH, it's great for all-round use, but for extreme use I would choose Explorer or One-Off. Those two bikes was made for it. Except that Explorer is the best for speed downhills for sure



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Posted 07 June 2011 - 08:48 PM

I would like to design and make one for sure

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:17 PM

View Postguido, on 25 May 2011 - 06:53 AM, said:

Good one, Stevie! I should also say that we ordered the Hase Kettwiesel Recumbent Trikes (one normal, one with handcrank - can be joined as tandem). We're going to use it for leisurely touring,. Will also feedback after delivery and use. Will say that London Recumbents were excellent - if a little mad!!!

Have you got your bike yet Guy? I have one of these bikes, that I acquired from a friend but I never use it, It was spec'd up for a large man so has never fitted me, And no matter how much i fiddle it doesn't like me. If I'd known you were looking for one, Id have sent it your way for a trial!
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Posted 08 June 2011 - 06:50 PM

View PostDoodle, on 08 June 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

View Postguido, on 25 May 2011 - 06:53 AM, said:

Good one, Stevie! I should also say that we ordered the Hase Kettwiesel Recumbent Trikes (one normal, one with handcrank - can be joined as tandem). We're going to use it for leisurely touring,. Will also feedback after delivery and use. Will say that London Recumbents were excellent - if a little mad!!!

Have you got your bike yet Guy? I have one of these bikes, that I acquired from a friend but I never use it, It was spec'd up for a large man so has never fitted me, And no matter how much i fiddle it doesn't like me. If I'd known you were looking for one, Id have sent it your way for a trial!
aaahhhhh.... been posting and posting and posting... I should have put "Horse" in the Thread Title and you'd have looked!!!
Never mind, have bought now, collecting any day soon.
Am sure there'll be others who'd be interested.
Either that or Karen Darke is part of an organisation in Scotland which has a couple of trikes for people to try, and if you're looking for a home they'd be pleased to hear from you.


Alternatively, am sure there'd be a willing buyer 2nd hand.


Anyway, how's your breakages?!
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 08:15 AM

View PostJeam, on 02 June 2011 - 04:00 PM, said:

Sport-On posted a new video on their youtube channel. And it's really impresive. I like Lasher ATH, it's great for all-round use, but for extreme use I would choose Explorer or One-Off. Those two bikes was made for it. Except that Explorer is the best for speed downhills for sure


I agree that the explorer would be fantastic fun downhill and very extreme use but think it's far to extreme for what i have planned. The terrain in the video is also far from my definition of extreme and am very confident that the Lasher will handle such terrain pretty easy... Ok i may not get the jumps that guy did (and i'd love too) but it will definitely handle it with ease. Im planning on doing a little road riding to get to my off-road destinations and think the head down design of the explorer and one off just isn't safe on UK roads, you take your eyes off the roads for a sec and your road kill!

In an ideal world, money no object, i'd have all three but weighing up my needs i think the Lasher ATH is perfect for the job and cant wait to take delivery!

Cheers, Stevie

PS i'll post pics/vids once i get it if anyones interested?

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 08:21 AM

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aaahhhhh.... been posting and posting and posting... I should have put "Horse" in the Thread Title and you'd have looked!!!
Never mind, have bought now, collecting any day soon.
Am sure there'll be others who'd be interested.
Either that or Karen Darke is part of an organisation in Scotland which has a couple of trikes for people to try, and if you're looking for a home they'd be pleased to hear from you.


Alternatively, am sure there'd be a willing buyer 2nd hand.


Anyway, how's your breakages?!
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Hey Guido, bet you can't wait, be very interested to see it when you collect, hope you share some pics!

Enjoy, Stevie

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 08:22 AM

View Postmonkeyman, on 09 June 2011 - 08:21 AM, said:

Hey Guido, bet you can't wait, be very interested to see it when you collect, hope you share some pics!
Will do!
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 08:23 AM

View Postguido, on 08 June 2011 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostDoodle, on 08 June 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

View Postguido, on 25 May 2011 - 06:53 AM, said:

Good one, Stevie! I should also say that we ordered the Hase Kettwiesel Recumbent Trikes (one normal, one with handcrank - can be joined as tandem). We're going to use it for leisurely touring,. Will also feedback after delivery and use. Will say that London Recumbents were excellent - if a little mad!!!

Have you got your bike yet Guy? I have one of these bikes, that I acquired from a friend but I never use it, It was spec'd up for a large man so has never fitted me, And no matter how much i fiddle it doesn't like me. If I'd known you were looking for one, Id have sent it your way for a trial!
aaahhhhh.... been posting and posting and posting... I should have put "Horse" in the Thread Title and you'd have looked!!!
Never mind, have bought now, collecting any day soon.
Am sure there'll be others who'd be interested.
Either that or Karen Darke is part of an organisation in Scotland which has a couple of trikes for people to try, and if you're looking for a home they'd be pleased to hear from you.

Alternatively, am sure there'd be a willing buyer 2nd hand.

Anyway, how's your breakages?!

Hahah that made me laugh and indeed true! The Glenmore Lodge Idea is a great one, It would get proper use in amazing country side!

Breakages are no longer broken, just taking time to be strong enough to get cast off and I cant wait to get back in the saddle!
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 08:28 AM

View PostDoodle, on 09 June 2011 - 08:23 AM, said:

Breakages are no longer broken, just taking time to be strong enough to get cast off and I cant wait to get back in the saddle!
You are quite mad, like all horse people. But at least the Cat is now off my back about me riding, so big thank you!!!
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Posted 18 July 2011 - 10:32 PM

View Postmonkeyman, on 09 June 2011 - 08:15 AM, said:

The terrain in the video is also far from my definition of extreme and am very confident that the Lasher will handle such terrain pretty easy...


You're right. I've ridden the Lasher ATH. That sort of terrain would be a piece of cake. One of the main differences (from a functional standpoint) between the off-road bikes with one wheel in front and one in the back is stability at high speeds. When you're really hauling ass on off-road terrain, the bikes with two wheels in front are much more stable. You can slide them around and ride on two wheels as necessary. However, if you also plan to do any riding on flat terrain or roads, the bikes with two wheels in the front will be LOT more work. I really like the idea that Lasher has with being able to switch between road wheels and off-roaders. The user will end up with a handcycle that will be able to do 90% of every type of riding out there.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 05:16 AM

We got our Hase Kettwiesel trikes which we mostly ride as a tandem and they are such good fun. Definitely a tourer rather than anything particularly off-road, though we're out on tracks and fields as well. Uphill is pretty slow going - though I suspect that this is life in a handcycle? And it's as much about accepting it. But one of the things that we've noticed is how "accessible" these machines make life. Our last run out was three hours on the New Forest in Hampshire, and without the noise of my quad bike engine, I'm suddenly finding myself out in surroundings that I haven't taken myself to under my own steam since before my accident. Just SO MUCH fun. And the whole activity thing, getting back up and out, gotta recommend.


I would say that as pieces of equipment they are frighteningly expensive, but when you look at the engineering that has gone into them (and they must be low volume production) and the amount that we intent to use over how long. And I don't regret a penny of them. They are already doing what we hoped they would do, which is to get us both out, enjoying the same activity, seeing much more - and the dog loves them too, as he gets some seriously long walks!


Photos to follow at some point.
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Posted 19 July 2011 - 07:15 AM

View Postguido, on 19 July 2011 - 05:16 AM, said:

We got our Hase Kettwiesel trikes which we mostly ride as a tandem and they are such good fun. Definitely a tourer rather than anything particularly off-road, though we're out on tracks and fields as well. Uphill is pretty slow going - though I suspect that this is life in a handcycle? And it's as much about accepting it. But one of the things that we've noticed is how "accessible" these machines make life. Our last run out was three hours on the New Forest in Hampshire, and without the noise of my quad bike engine, I'm suddenly finding myself out in surroundings that I haven't taken myself to under my own steam since before my accident. Just SO MUCH fun. And the whole activity thing, getting back up and out, gotta recommend.


I would say that as pieces of equipment they are frighteningly expensive, but when you look at the engineering that has gone into them (and they must be low volume production) and the amount that we intent to use over how long. And I don't regret a penny of them. They are already doing what we hoped they would do, which is to get us both out, enjoying the same activity, seeing much more - and the dog loves them too, as he gets some seriously long walks!


Photos to follow at some point.

Excellent... knew you'd love it Guido. Getting out and about under your own steam is very liberating, new forest is a great place to do it to.
Uphills will improve with time as you get used to the trike and conditioning improves... like you say tho i'm not sure if there is such a thing as a "fast" uphill on a handbike, either just enjoy the scenery or, if you want a really good work out, take the "head down and crank as hard as you can" approach.

Agree these things are very expensive but i would whole heartedly recommend handcycles in general (regardless of the make/model)as a great rehabilitaion tool. They help with muscle conditioning and cardio fitness as well as providing a level of freedom that's hard to achieve in just a wheelchair. I just wish that the government would help individuals who can't afford these items with some sort of funding/grant.

I took delivery of my Lasher ATH last week but have been in the process of moving house so didn't want to unpack it and risk damaging in the move. So it's currently still boxed up! However i moved yesterday and one of my first priorities is to unbox the beast (and it really is a "beast", the 29er wheelset that i ordered are huge!) and get out for a ride to help rid myself of the moving stress. Unfortunately i'm working all this week so it's gonna have to wait until the weekend :(
Like Guido i'll post pics as soon as i can for those that are interested.

Cheers, Stevie

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 07:22 AM

Cool, Stevie - if you find yourself in my neck of the woods, give me a shout. Exciting that you got your Lasher ATH. Be interested to see it in the flesh. Whereabouts are you? (says South East?)

PM me if you like.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 03:50 PM

@ Guido: Sounds like your cycle is really working out for you. I hope you and your wife continue to enjoy your adventures and I look forward to some pictures.

@ Stevie: Congrats on your Lasher ATH, even though you've yet to un-box it. I hope you will write a review and post some pictures once you get to put it in action. I'm about 90% sure that I will be ordering one pretty soon. How long did it take you to receive the cycle from the time of order placement?

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 05:36 AM

View Postaraitn, on 19 July 2011 - 03:50 PM, said:

@ Guido: Sounds like your cycle is really working out for you. I hope you and your wife continue to enjoy your adventures and I look forward to some pictures.

Thanks, Joe. Yes, photos in due course!

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:55 AM

View Postaraitn, on 19 July 2011 - 03:50 PM, said:

@ Stevie: Congrats on your Lasher ATH, even though you've yet to un-box it. I hope you will write a review and post some pictures once you get to put it in action. I'm about 90% sure that I will be ordering one pretty soon. How long did it take you to receive the cycle from the time of order placement?

Hi Joe,
Waiting to un-box it is killing me... i feel like a kid before Xmas!
I'll write a full review and post pics in the near future. I'll also post some pics of the assembly process, the bike is delivered in two boxes so there is some assembly required. It all looks very simply tho and there are full instructions so i don't envisage any problems, i'll let you know.

Cheers, Stevie

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 02:08 PM

As I felt that initial advice resources were so limited on Handcycling, I have been putting a page together full of info and links, etc...


If anyone felt like reading it and commenting, sending further advice, links, etc.. I'd be grateful. The links are UK-centric (sorry, so is the site) but generally it's useful for all.


http://disabledgear.com/Information/HandbikesAndHandcyclingInTheUk.aspx


I'm missing info on Clips ons and the racing snake ones!


Please Help Me Fill In The Gaps....!
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Posted 10 August 2011 - 09:37 PM

Oh yey - now very pleased! Good old Honda Accord (I love this car with its impressive load capacity!!)


Of our two Hase Kettwiesels:


So the hand trike will fit IN the car with full use of 2/3 back seat (just have to take off quick release front wheel - and 1 allen key to slide off hand lever).


And just bought a Thule quick release tow bar bike rack - these things are so clever, easy to use and cool. And the second trike fits on this. And you can lever it forward to still have access to the boot while trike is attached. Those clever people at Thule!


So now no need to tow a trailer on a long euro road trip taking both our babies with us.

Thule Bike Rack.jpg

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 07:27 AM

Hey John,
great video, just wondering did you order your bike here in Australia or while you were still in the UK?
what sort of shipping did you pay?
I am looking myself for a bike and not sure if I want a road or off-road bike.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:50 PM

Explorer handcycle in action. Another great video from Sport-On.


Edited by offroadfreak, 09 September 2011 - 07:54 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2011 - 08:59 AM

At long last here are a couple of pics of my Lasher ATH. I absolutely love it and think it is one of my best buys, i thought the freewheel gave me freedom (which it does and i'd highly recommend one) but this provides a level of freedom to explore on a whole new level.

Stevie

Lasher ATH river ride video

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 09:37 AM

And another pic.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 10:30 AM

Explorer II, another video:


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