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#1 plank

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 01:35 AM

Paralysed Man Walks After Breakthrough Treatment

Have we seen this?

"It is hoped the research will lead to some people with spinal cord injuries standing, balancing and maybe even walking independently.

"We implanted an epidural stimulator and an electrode ray with the intent of accessing special circuitry in the spinal cord and - in essence, [activating] it," she said.

The electrical currents mimic the signals the brain normally transmits to initiate movement, retraining the spinal cord's neural network to use sensory input from the legs and make the muscles move."

http://www.abc.net.a.../20/3222084.htm

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Tag: Paralysed Man Walks After Breakthrough Treatment - epidural stimulation - Professor Susan Harkema - electrode ray - spinal cord

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 04:11 AM

This news sounds exciting to me. The first thing I noticed was it wasn't a new sci. That's very promising news for the sci nation. Most research has targeted the newly injured and that's good for them. I've been injured long enough to know I don't wish it on any one. Small process is better than NO process. Every improvement can make a world of difference in daily tasks.

A big shout out for the south [Kentucky doctor] We shall rise and maybe walk again!!!!!!

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 04:19 AM

Excellent news.
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 04:55 AM

Dont really understand what they exactly did to this guy and why the results are so good.

"We implanted an epidural stimulator and an electrode ray with the intent of accessing special circuitry in the spinal cord and - in essence, [activating] it," she said.
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Can anybody explain.

Seems like they put some device in his spine but can he control contractions or they are controlled by machine?
It all seems bizarre.
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 04:59 AM

Dont really understand what they exactly did to this guy and why the results are so good.

"We implanted an epidural stimulator and an electrode ray with the intent of accessing special circuitry in the spinal cord and - in essence, [activating] it," she said.
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Can anybody explain.

Seems like they put some device in his spine but can he control contractions or they are controlled by machine?
It all seems bizarre.



Agreed. There are more questions than answers here. Perhaps we should check out the story in the Lancet.

Here it is. http://www.thelancet...0547-3/fulltext

OK. Having read and partially understood the Lancet article, it would appear that the movement only occurs during stimulation. To me that means we are a long way from any useable results here.


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Posted 20 May 2011 - 05:03 AM

Good question....regardless this is truly awesome. Just being able to move and stand after four years must have made him feel like a million bucks!

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 05:14 AM

It would make me feel like a kazillion bucks especially if you could get in a really good stretch. I'd just like seeing eyes again instead of rear ends.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:29 AM

My mother called me all excited last evening, and I cynically just said "yeah, yeah, yeah..."

Then, it was just on CBS news now and will replay later this morning...

Seem they are stimuating nerves to retrain them to the damaged areas?? And working on the muscles w/ PT...

Did they also specify "incomplete or complete?"

Also, his level appears very low...I missed if they said, anyone hear? But I understand he is four years in...?

There does seem to be Hope in this and not just snake oil...




But damn, my dropped feet would never hold me up now! LOL!


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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:51 AM

But damn, my dropped feet would never hold me up now! LOL!


You learn to walk on your heels. Mind you ´walk´ is perhaps a slight exaggeration. More like a series of partially controlled falls. :mfrlol:
Just don´t try standing still, or you´ll end on your arse.

Can I be the one to stick your electrodes in, please? :)

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:54 AM


But damn, my dropped feet would never hold me up now! LOL!


You learn to walk on your heels. Mind you ´walk´ is perhaps a slight exaggeration. More like a series of partially controlled falls. :mfrlol:
Just don´t try standing still, or you´ll end on your arse.

Can I be the one to stick your electrodes in, please? :)

Depends, GB: How good are you at sticking them in...? :wink05:

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:56 AM

I hope this proves very promising and helps many others gain return and a new life or chances of having one. Beautiful
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:59 AM

Depends, GB: How good are you at sticking them in...? :wink05:

Only one way to find out, Bev. Just make damned sure you´re still around for me to practice on. :wink05:

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:08 AM

As far as I can tell, the system has only been used on someone with a sensory incomplete spinal cord injury, as the article I read said the researchers were unsure if it would work on someone with no sensation.

The patient was a 23-year-old man with a C7/T1 spinal lesion. (source)

Geoffrey Raisman, professor of neural regeneration at University College London, said the case was "interesting" but noted it "is not repair, but an improvement of function of tissue already surviving." (source)

Epidural stimulation enabled the man to achieve full weight-bearing standing with assistance provided only for balance for 4·25 min. The patient achieved this standing during stimulation using parameters identified as specific for standing while providing bilateral load-bearing proprioceptive input. We also noted locomotor-like patterns when stimulation parameters were optimised for stepping. Additionally, 7 months after implantation, the patient recovered supraspinal control of some leg movements, but only during epidural stimulation. (source)

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:33 AM

A bit of light at the end of the tunnel, we can only hope and pray that maybe some of us will someday be able to avail of this.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 01:00 PM

Looks like remote control legs to me,

Is it an electrical bridge type solution in so much as his brain is generating the signal and the device is jut linking on e end to the other?


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Posted 20 May 2011 - 01:17 PM

Here's what I found:

"It opens up a huge opportunity to improve the daily functioning of these individuals ... but we have a long road ahead," said Professor Susan Harkema from the Kentucky spinal cord research centre at the University of Louisville, one of two leading neurologists involved in Summers' treatment.

Harkema describes the impulse from the brain to start walking as "facilitatory". What really starts the walking process, she says, is probably the shifting of weight to one foot.

"The brain is not controlling movement to the extent we thought it was. If you think about walking, it sets up the nervous system to expect information related to walking," she said. That sensory information comes from the legs.

This has been known and accepted in animals for some time, she added, but it was thought it might not be so in humans because of the highly developed brain.

"The spinal cord is smart," said Harkema's chief collaborator, neurologist Professor V Reggie Edgerton from the David Geffen school of medicine at UCLA.

"The neural networks in the lumbosacral spinal cord are capable of initiating full-weight bearing and relatively coordinated stepping without any input from the brain. This is possible, in part, due to information that is sent back from the legs directly to the spinal cord." (source)

Hope that helps!

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 01:30 PM

Thanks! Cool stuff, Simon! Then actually, level and degree are not the main concerns...




And GB, you've given me more with which to carry on: electro play with you :yikes: [were's my Woof Woof now?]...


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Posted 20 May 2011 - 02:38 PM

I hope there next set of volunteers show even more positive results. This certainly is encouraging news! :D

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 02:57 PM

What's interesting here is the" intelligent spinal cord" this is very positive in development of solutions in that not all function has to come from the brain, there is some "reflex" activity capable in the cord.

Interesting in deed!
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 03:18 PM

There has thought to of been a central pattern generator in humans for some time.

Wise Young has written about this in the past on his blog, the extract below is dated 2009:

Many scientists speculated that humans have a central pattern generator (CPG) for locomotion in the human spinal cord and proposed the use of spinal cord stimulation to activate locomotion. Hadi, et al. showed that destruction of interneurons neurons in the L2 spinal cord produced lasting loss of walking ability in rats, suggesting that this is where the mammalian CPG may be located. Ribotta, et al. showed that transplantation of loecus coreulus cells to provide serotonergic innervation of L1-L2 spinal cord segment restored well-defined locomotor patterns in rats. The serotonin agonist 8-OH-DPAT induces locomotor movements in low thoracic transected mice. Yakovenko, et al showed that intraspinal stimulation of spinal cords of transected rats significantly increased locomotor scores.

Dimitrijevic, et al. reported evidence of a spinal central pattern generator and showed that stimulation of this center improved gait in people after spinal cord injury. The center can be readily stimulated with epidural electrodes placed over the L2 spinal cord. The stimulation initiates extension of lower limb and can produce stepping-like movements in subjects with complete spinal cord injury. In both complete and incomplete spinal cord injury, reorganization of the spinal cord circuitry provides alternative mechanisms of locomotor and motor control. In 2007, Mianssian, et al. found that human lumbar cord circuitry can be activated by extrinsic tonic input to generate locomotor-like activity. Early application both FES and CPG stimulation may be helpful in preventing disuse atrophy of both muscle and neurons.

CPG stimulation helps locomotor training. Barriere, et al. pointed out the important role of the central pattern generator in the recovery of voluntary locomotion. Herman, et al. has shown that epidural stimulation of the T10/T12 central pattern generator in humans facilitates walking recovery in people with chronic spinal cord injury, improving walking speed and endurance while reducing the sense of effort by the subject. In particular, Carhart, et al. described a patient with chronic incomplete tetraplegia in whom partial weight-bearing therapy alone was insufficient to achieve functional ambulation. However, application of the T10/T12 stimulation not only produced further improvements in treadmill walking but facilitated transfer of these gains to overground walking. The participant initially reported a reduction in the sense of effort for overground walking from 8/10 to 3/10 (Borg scale) and was able to double his walking speed to 0.35 m/sec and distance to 325 m.

Spinal cord stimulation facilitates walking not by directly activating neurons that control walking but by lowering the threshold to activate walking and to recruit additional muscles that may not be under voluntary control. The stimulation not only increases the efficiency and speed of walking but reduces both perceived and actual effort required for walking, including metabolic energy utilization during walking. Recent studies suggest that the electrodes don’t even have to be placed epidurally but can activate the spinal cord when placed on skin overlying the lumbar cord. Note that rhythmic auditory stimulation likewise has strong entrainment effects on gait cadence, velocity, and stride length in patients with incomplete spinal cord injury.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 03:26 PM

I tell you Simon, you must do some reading!

Between keeping all the children in check here and all this research activity.

Some guy!

Thanks.


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Posted 20 May 2011 - 03:41 PM

Very interesting, another very positive experiment...

How about trying this a bit higher up...finger function would be a bonus...I understand starting lower, easier to measure/focus on and there's that bang-fer-the-buck that gets peoples attention...moving a finger vs. walking!

Just wondering what the issues are, understanding the higher up you go the more complex the problem, could they try this on a higher break? Simple movement vs. complex...you don't have to balance much to peel a banana, put on a shirt, brush your teeth...hold another's hand!

Put it in me neck, I'd give it a go...if I had my upper body function I would be so much more independent! Imagine the financial burden lifted from our governments...the increase in quality of life!

Just an aging quadie thinking out loud...

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 05:02 PM

the device was from medtronics, i wonder if they can jerry-rig my baclofen pump into a walking stimulator? standing/walking for 4 min intervals doesnt sound too bad, you can get a lot done in 4 mins; walk up a couple of steps, then sit back in your chair, or intimidate someone shorter than you, or reach that thing on the top shelf at the store. yeah in 4 mins i could get some stuff done.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 05:20 PM

That's an interesting Idea, Still,,, if the epidural stimulation ENHANCES what is there by being able "to recruit additional muscles that may not be under voluntary control". That sounds like an excellent place to start the study involving arms and hands. If it could somehow, add a little to what you now have,,, I gotta tell you,,, I'd rather see them doing that than helping me wiggle a toe.

Even incremental help with the arms and fingers would have tremendous rewards for those trying to zip a zipper,, or drink from a glass. As much as I'd like to see myself be able to stand up,, I'd feel that getting a quad to have better hand/finger control,, would be a better place to start.

From Dr Young's blog, we find that this wasn't so much a breakthrough,, as a demonstration of what others have already known...... Still ,,, small steps,,,, a good thing.
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 07:14 PM

Can I stop eating fish now?

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:17 PM

That's an interesting Idea, Still,,, if the epidural stimulation ENHANCES what is there by being able "to recruit additional muscles that may not be under voluntary control". That sounds like an excellent place to start the study involving arms and hands. If it could somehow, add a little to what you now have,,, I gotta tell you,,, I'd rather see them doing that than helping me wiggle a toe.

Even incremental help with the arms and fingers would have tremendous rewards for those trying to zip a zipper,, or drink from a glass. As much as I'd like to see myself be able to stand up,, I'd feel that getting a quad to have better hand/finger control,, would be a better place to start.

From Dr Young's blog, we find that this wasn't so much a breakthrough,, as a demonstration of what others have already known...... Still ,,, small steps,,,, a good thing.
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I agree. Small steps. At least it is some kind of proof that it has potential and can be used on humans. Something we have yet to see from stem cell research . As an incomplete soppy walker I'm really excited about this one. In first article they also mentioned a bladder and bowel improvement. This is possibly life changing for many of us. Imagine getting rid of catheter... FOR EVER. UH OH
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:29 PM

Wow, I am ahead of the curve here with my very own spinal cord stimulator already installed...just have not fired it up in a very long time...now to go look for the charger...

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:55 PM

This does look interesting but alas it's just stimulation.
It will happen if stem cells work is not banned.
But i do not believe in our life time.
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 10:29 PM

This does look interesting but alas it's just stimulation.
It will happen if stem cells work is not banned.
But i do not believe in our life time.

That must be the most ignorant and dumb post i ever read. Not in our life time? You are 35 for gods sake.
Why dont you take time and read information posted by Simon and other people before posting your ridiculous statements and why in hell you are bringing stem cells into this.
Pessimism is the last thing we need in this thread. Read it, understand it and be excited about it. Those sir are good news.

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 09:56 AM

I remember now why i stopped posting on this board.

I will read the research of my impending recovering and offer an unreserved apology now doubt.

How exciting, who shall i phone first ?
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