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[Pete Anderson]

I have a hard fast rule bout smoke'n a dube. I only smoke when I'm alone, or with my friends. That's where I draw the line (not do one).

Oh yeah, it helps with my pain too.

Pete

[Snakeye]

 RioBlaze, on 02 November 2011 - 06:42 AM, said:

 sciiaf, on 11 July 2011 - 09:45 AM, said:

i'm going to ask dr about pot, for medicinal, pain is acting up again and i really have no other options. its the burning pain i'm feeling all the time.

who here takes it medicinally only? the kind prescribed and used by dr directions? i havent smoked since i've been injured, so i have no idea but i'd like to try.

how much does it help? if any? do you take it during the day when you are at work? does it interfere with socializing and working with people?

what kind of relief do you feel? how much do you take? do you get the munchies as well?

really desperate here. going to try it but i might be going back to work so, curious as i don't want to get fired for laughing too hard at youtube emails and such

Good for you!!!! I used to smoke but it is not legal where I live. I smoked it for about 15 yrs. I am now taking oxycontin, percocet, soma, ambien, lyrica to name a few. I HATE the side effects of Rx meds. I hope one day it will be accepted and legal EVERYWHERE!!!

The best that I ever used was in Amsterdam. It was actually not marijuana but hashhish. It tastes so good and the relief I got was incredible. The drawback is that the effects of the MJ only lasted for about three hours maximum.

So anyway, here's hoping you get relief from your pain.
Rio

Unbelievable hashhish in Germany as well...and hash oil...Blond, sweet tasting stuff with a wonderful buzz...Oh, the memories...

Edited by Snakeye, 03 November 2011 - 03:38 AM.

[Sweets]

I've been using Medical Marijuana for about a year now. I have my card (California) and never even tried it until I used it medicinally. I'm asthmatic, so I cannot smoke it. I can use a vaporizer but only do when my pain is very high (8 or above). I buy the butter and my husband makes brownies, cookies, lemon bars (my favorite), etc. A stick of canibutter will make 24 servings for me and each serving lasts 5-6 hours. The best part is I can eat a whole serving (if my pain is high) or half a serving (if it's just a nagging pain) and do not feel the "side effects" ie: getting high. I can carry on a normal conversation and be very active. The best part is I can be at someplace like Disneyland, and if my pain really starts to get to me (for instance if I'm transferring more than one or two times) then I simply eat a cookie. It does take an hour to kick in though, so I take it as soon as my pain level starts to rise. It is OUTSTANDING for bedtime use. If I take my RX meds I have to take: Opana (long acting synthetic opioid), Dilaudid for breakthrough pain, Zanaflex as a muscle relaxer and Valium as an anti-spasmotic. Medical Marijuana takes the place of ALL these medications with the exception of Opana. (Actually, I wouldn't have to take the Opana if I took more MM, but then I'd be high and I hate that sensation.

I would definitely go to a MM doctor and get a card. The dispensaries are usually very good at "prescribing" the correct type of marijuana for your symptoms. You may have to try two or three strains (most likely you'll want a hybrid, otherwise you'll be "couch locked") until you find the right strain for you. I use a mix of 3/4 Indica and 1/4 Sativa but everyone is different. PM me if you need more info, I actually have my MM grown by another patient who grows a strain especially for me and makes the butter for me. For $15-$30 you should be able to get a stick of canibutter and make 24 servings out of it, so eating it lasts longer and costs less than smoking it.

Best of luck,

Sweets

[Snakeye]

 Sweets, on 05 November 2011 - 12:05 AM, said:

I've been using Medical Marijuana for about a year now. I have my card (California) and never even tried it until I used it medicinally. I'm asthmatic, so I cannot smoke it. I can use a vaporizer but only do when my pain is very high (8 or above). I buy the butter and my husband makes brownies, cookies, lemon bars (my favorite), etc. A stick of canibutter will make 24 servings for me and each serving lasts 5-6 hours. The best part is I can eat a whole serving (if my pain is high) or half a serving (if it's just a nagging pain) and do not feel the "side effects" ie: getting high. I can carry on a normal conversation and be very active. The best part is I can be at someplace like Disneyland, and if my pain really starts to get to me (for instance if I'm transferring more than one or two times) then I simply eat a cookie. It does take an hour to kick in though, so I take it as soon as my pain level starts to rise. It is OUTSTANDING for bedtime use. If I take my RX meds I have to take: Opana (long acting synthetic opioid), Dilaudid for breakthrough pain, Zanaflex as a muscle relaxer and Valium as an anti-spasmotic. Medical Marijuana takes the place of ALL these medications with the exception of Opana. (Actually, I wouldn't have to take the Opana if I took more MM, but then I'd be high and I hate that sensation.

I would definitely go to a MM doctor and get a card. The dispensaries are usually very good at "prescribing" the correct type of marijuana for your symptoms. You may have to try two or three strains (most likely you'll want a hybrid, otherwise you'll be "couch locked") until you find the right strain for you. I use a mix of 3/4 Indica and 1/4 Sativa but everyone is different. PM me if you need more info, I actually have my MM grown by another patient who grows a strain especially for me and makes the butter for me. For $15-$30 you should be able to get a stick of canibutter and make 24 servings out of it, so eating it lasts longer and costs less than smoking it.

Best of luck,

Sweets

Yepper, valium and or dilaudid will kill any reefer buzz. For example: Drinking and smoking weed is like pissing in the wind....Of course narcotic pain killers and tranqs have there own kinda more intense buzz until you take them too long....Glad ya like weed and I have to admit your the first person I ever met who uses pot frequintly yet claims they hate the "high" feeling...Intresting...

[carole338]

Thanks, now to convenes my doctor

[carole338]

That word was convince. See what too many RXs do.

[Tarkus]

 Scorpio81, on 31 October 2011 - 06:11 PM, said:

I've found all the posts on this subject very interesting - it seems that for a lot of you, marijuana really helps with your symptoms. I have tried smoking it a couple of times in the past (once was with a few friends and the other time was in Amsterdam where it is legal) and I have to say, it really relaxed all the tight muscles in my back (muscles I didn't even realise were tight) and gave me a feeling of wellbeing - I didn't get stoned, just nicely relaxed.

However, it is still illegal here in the UK - a few years ago it was downgraded to a class C drug, although the laws and boundaries were very blurred and confusing, but then the government in all their wisdom put it back up to a class B. There have been some clinical trials run by pain clinics, testing Sativex, though I think that's only mainly been aimed at people with Multiple Sclerosis and other serious progressive neurological diseases. They seem to have overlooked the many people who suffer with neuropathic pain for reasons other than MS etc.

The main problem is that Marijuana has been demonised for so long, and there is no distinction made between people who use it for medical purposes and people who use it purely to get high/stoned. The anti-weed brigade say that smoking pot inevitably leads to taking stronger drugs (like heroin and cocaine), but in my circumstances it would actually be a bit of a downgrade from the strong stuff i'm taking now! It's totally crazy that I can get prescribed as much morphine (or any other opiate) and diazepam (valium) as I want, but I would be breaking the law if I so much as smoked a joint. That said, i've only ever smoked it and I don't like the taste/smell so wouldn't be up for smoking it again. However, if it was offered to me in another form, like tablets or a tincture, I would give it a go, but that's not very likely the way things stand over here as it is.

It's always amazes me that alcohol is so readily available and socially acceptable, despite it being responsible for so many bad things, like violence (Saturday night in my city centre shows a perfect example of this) as well as the long term damage it does to the mind and body, not to mention the effects alcoholism can have on families and relationships. I've never seen anyone glass someone in the face after a couple of smokes, but the same can't be said for someone who's had a skinful of booze. Alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs around, but they'll never ban/criminalise it, not in a million years!

Another thing that's commonly referred to is that marijuana use actually causes mental health problems in the long term - is there any truth in that? Or does that only apply to people who are predisposed to things like depression anyway? I'm genuinely interested in opinions on this.

If you think pot is demonized just wait , if your a Oxy et al user you may find it easier to get herb than your scripts.
The Feds are cracking down on a problem they created and in their lust to find abusers they will cut off those who need them. Sad, very sad.

Funny you should mention Valium, the most demonized prescription drug in history , until oxy ,because doctors handed it out to every bored housewife in the 1970's. Mothers little helper.

Given the choice between pot and the opiates its a no brainier .

For all those who worry about the legality ill say this.
Do you drive when your full of Oxy ? If you do you're on the wrong side of the law.

Be Big,
AMAC

[Harry3082]

Weed is Best for Muscle spasms and pain for me!
Weed is Unhealthiest to the body though. I my opinion!
Grr

[harlton]

Hi guys,
I am reading this with quite a bit of experience in the subject and interest. I have posted before on this subject before and just today, in a response to wheeliebear, so you can read that, sorry for the length.
Wheeliebear is right on the money, there is a great deal of difference between dependancy for pain and an addict, I am a dependant pain patient, I have taken everything listed here except pot. I carryout the design and modification of motorcycles as a business using a lot of engineering formula to tight tolerences .001mm. I would like to see an addict try any of it. Anyone in pain taking the right meds could be shown and succeed.
Secondly a good number of years ago I think 60minutes or 20/20 did a documentary after a number of long term pain patients killed themselves, one on camera after documenting his slide from normalcy to agony.
That was the last time the Americian government really attacked pain patients and Doctors, in thier war on drugs. This always spills over into Canada and a whole round of reviews and purges transpire.
This time it seems to be ramping up in Canada first, read my other posts. A lady just up the road from where I live was raided and dragged off to jail for having the audacity to suffer from MS, with a script to grow medical maruana. She is in her 60's, lives alone in her small country home and hurts none. She is not the first and with Ontario police thugs, she is not going to be the last. Oh by the way they were in full combat gear, shotguns, flack jackets and stormed the place in the middle of the night.
I take 8mgs dilaudid 4 x /day + 2000mg gabaphentin 3 x/day Valium for sleep + temazapham for sleep and Ammino acids and htp-5 to help muscle recovery. The last two come from the health store and have frequently been banned. So with all I take and the supplements, I'm not going peacefully. Why would I, I know what's going to happen when I'm dragged off. Being shot would be mercifull.
On a practical note I found diluadid works better, with less side effects, than any other opiate based drug, I took 8mgs a bit before I started writing this with coffee, and that might be illeagal in Ontario now, but I'm no worse at writing than usual.
I have survived on it and raised two boys, with no help from anyone, both are university grads. I use to have to take 16mg 4x/day untill they added the gabaphentin. I have tried percodan, percacet, tripalean, and all others mentioned, I was on the study groups for many including the fentanal patches.( I probably spelt most drugs incorrectly, I just have to take the bloody things.)
The point is, this is no joke, our pain meds are our lifeline, we are under constant attack, with rx drugs add in medical pot and in most places your asking for it, the powers that be are clamping down, and nobody really cares about a bunch of gimps who are an unecessary expence.
In Ontario in the 90's thanks to conservative governments people who are unfortuate enough to be on disabilty lost 50% of their benifit, they have regained 1%, a recent report stated. I'm no wimp, but I would think twice before I added merryjana to my list of ingrediants.