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[Smileyblue]

I started taking VRP D-Mannose Plus to try to rid myself of this e-coli infection that has been plaguing me..

They recommend 4-5 teaspoons mixed with water to get rid of infection, then 1 teaspoon a day after that, to maintain a e-coli free bladder..

My question comes after SEVERE abdominal cramping combined with more pain than usual today.. Could this be a side-effect of the D-Mannose?

I read that large doses may cause kidney damage and bloating, so I've reduced from 5 times a day and will go to 3 times a day..

[Millard]

Smileyblue, on 21 July 2011 - 05:25 PM, said:

I started taking VRP D-Mannose Plus to try to rid myself of this e-coli infection that has been plaguing me..

They recommend 4-5 teaspoons mixed with water to get rid of infection, then 1 teaspoon a day after that, to maintain a e-coli free bladder..

My question comes after SEVERE abdominal cramping combined with more pain than usual today.. Could this be a side-effect of the D-Mannose?

I read that large doses may cause kidney damage and bloating, so I've reduced from 5 times a day and will go to 3 times a day..

Hello SB,

The only side effect I had was leaking. Other that that, everything seemed okay.

Good luck.

[Smileyblue]

Thanks Millard, that's comforting..

But now the cramping has spread to my neck, arms, back, and shoulders too.. Now I'm really confused!

This is one crappy ride I'm on!

[greybeard]

Hiya Smiley,

Here´s a cut and paste that might offer some relief: I was prescribed 200mg of Quinine Sulphate each night to prevent my cramps. They work for me. It is possible that the large volume of water you are drinking every day has flushed too much salt from your system. Try adding more salt to your food and bananas for potassium.

>>>>>>Home Care
At the first sign of a muscle spasm, stop your activity and try stretching and massaging the affected muscle. Heat will relax the muscle when the spasm begins, but ice may be helpful after the first spasm and when the pain has improved.

If the muscle is still sore, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications can help with pain. If the muscle cramps are severe, your health care provider can prescribe anti-spasm medications.

The most common cause of muscle cramps during sports activity is dehydration. Often, drinking water will ease the cramping. However, water alone doesn't always help. Salt tablets or sports drinks, which also replenish lost minerals, can be helpful.

Other tips for relieving muscle cramps:

• Change your workouts so that you are exercising within your ability.
• Drink plenty of fluids while exercising and increase your potassium intake (orange juice and bananas are great sources of potassium).
• Stretch to improve flexibility.

When to Contact a Medical Professional
Call your doctor if your muscle cramps:

• Are severe
• Do not go away with simple stretching
• Keep coming back
• Last a long time

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Edited by greybeard, 21 July 2011 - 10:18 PM.

[Smileyblue]

Thanks GB! That is very informative and I think might be the answer.. I'll get Mummy to buy me some orange juice tomorrow, and eat more salt (even if I can't stand it) Lol..

[greybeard]

Smileyblue, on 21 July 2011 - 10:53 PM, said:

and eat more salt (even if I can't stand it) Lol..

Try salt tablets then.

You might also try re-hydration mixtures (e.g. dioralyte) instead of plain water. They contain all the salts needed and don´t taste unpleasant.

[Tetracyclone]

Smiley-
Consider cutting back to a very low dosage, or none to see if the cramps go away (if GBs idea does not work, but he is right that the cramps could be unrelated) . Then increase gradually until you find how much you can tolerate. The suggested dosage is massive.

My brand recommends only 1 to 2 level teaspoons per day.

[sh1wn]

Kinda a strange suggestion for a guy to make but midol can help sometimes.

[goose]

Hey Smileyblue

Have you had your potassium levels checked? I take a potassium tablet when my legs start cramping. On the bottle it says its good for muscles and nerve ending. I 'll take them for a week and then when ever I think I might need one.

I also take D-Mannose but in pill form. I take 3 pills twice a day for preventive measures and if I think a UTI is brewing I'll bump it up to 4 pills twice a day. I think that's 2000 mg a dose. They work great for me with no side effects and I've been taking them for years. I've only had to take an antibiotic once in the last 3 years but I do drink lots of water. I sip it all day long.

[Edinburgh Colin]

Smiley, you need to watch if your Potassium levels drop too much as it's bad for your smooth muscles, that includes your heart!

If you have been drinking a lot or taking diuretics the levels will fall, get your bloods done or take some supplements for a couple of days as insurance.

Good luck been a long journey and you need to get to the end.

EC

[Smileyblue]

Thanks everyone..

I have started drinking orange juice today and reduced the dosage to only twice a day.. I was quite shocked how much higher the values were in this powder, to what was mentioned above..

This one contains (per serving of 1 level teaspoon):
60mg Vitamin C
1500mg D-Mannose
800mg Cranberry extract

That was another motivator to reduce the dosage as I believe excessive cranberry extract may cause kidney stones..

I don't know whether it was the dosage reduction, or whether it was the addition of orange juice, or perhaps even Mummy's "camphor in the bed" remedy, but something has helped.. The cramps are greatly reduced, even if they're not completely gone..

I can't thank you guys enough for all the helpful information and advice you've given me..

[Edinburgh Colin]

Smileyblue, on 22 July 2011 - 04:58 PM, said:

Thanks everyone..

I have started drinking orange juice today and reduced the dosage to only twice a day.. I was quite shocked how much higher the values were in this powder, to what was mentioned above..

This one contains (per serving of 1 level teaspoon):
60mg Vitamin C
1500mg D-Mannose
800mg Cranberry extract

That was another motivator to reduce the dosage as I believe excessive cranberry extract may cause kidney stones..

I don't know whether it was the dosage reduction, or whether it was the addition of orange juice, or perhaps even Mummy's "camphor in the bed" remedy, but something has helped.. The cramps are greatly reduced, even if they're not completely gone..

I can't thank you guys enough for all the helpful information and advice you've given me..

You don't need to thank us, you're the one doing all the hard work!!


Good for you and the thanks will be when you post that you have finally beaten the little blighters!

EC

[dingle]

Hello
I started to use D-Mannose and it made me ill and I had to go in to hospital,
if I was you I would stop it now.

[greybeard]

dingle, on 25 July 2011 - 07:01 AM, said:

I started to use D-Mannose and it made me ill and I had to go in to hospital,

What symptoms? What diagnosis? What treatment? What outcome?

Answers to all / any of the above would be more helpful than your one-line statement.

[Bobo1974]

I have used D-Mannose for the past 5 years and I have had no problems. My UTI's have been almost non-existent. I do three scoopfuls a day

[Smileyblue]

greybeard, on 25 July 2011 - 07:14 AM, said:

dingle, on 25 July 2011 - 07:01 AM, said:

I started to use D-Mannose and it made me ill and I had to go in to hospital,

What symptoms? What diagnosis? What treatment? What outcome?

Answers to all / any of the above would be more helpful than your one-line statement.

Thanks GB.. My thoughts too.. ;-)

Thanks to everyone for your responses.. We'll be doing more tests today to see how things are going since I reduced the dosage..

[Edinburgh Colin]

Fingers crossed for you Smiley, expect success ....... hopefully.

EC

[Smileyblue]

After being rudely awakened by the same EXCRUCIATING cramps this morning, I think I have the cause figured out..

The catheter was blocked.. Once we managed to unblock it, it drained almost 2 litres again! Mummy says that she thinks it was blocked last time too..

This darn gunk! I am at my wits end!

[Tetracyclone]

Smileyblue, on 01 August 2011 - 04:26 AM, said:

After being rudely awakened by the same EXCRUCIATING cramps this morning, I think I have the cause figured out..

The catheter was blocked.. Once we managed to unblock it, it drained almost 2 litres again! Mummy says that she thinks it was blocked last time too..

This darn gunk! I am at my wits end!

Deja vue all over again. I send tiny ninja blender spirits to smooth out the bladder contents. Let me know if they get to the right address. If not, post a new photo for me to meditate on.

Edited by Tetracyclone, 01 August 2011 - 11:42 AM.

[Smileyblue]

Thanks Pat..

My urine is so bloody its gone dark orange.. I'm worried what this could mean.. Plus I'm so sore that breathing hurts.. Just plain miserable I guess..

Gonna try phone my doctor and see what she thinks I should do.. I hope she takes my call and she doesn't expect me to go see her coz I'm just too sore for that..