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[isobar]

If you have High Blood Pressure a smoothie made with foods containing calcium , magnesium and potassium will help regulate and keep it under control. Natural also means foods as well.

[dom]

MTB John, on 12 August 2011 - 04:16 PM, said:

pinkcloud, on 12 August 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:

i agree with both sides

Greybeard, anyone who hates meds and can cope with just natural stuff, good on them i say. Afterall people in Tailand dont have medicines like us and live to a ripe old age..mind you then again they live literally in rubbish tips too ( i have a friend from there who does charity work for them)

Hay Miss PC,
I think your friend likes to embellish things somewhat. They have some world class hospitals overhere, not just in terms of doctors but service too. I stayed in one for a week or so - had my own room, dvd, cable, microwave and when you need something there is an intercom system conected to the nurses station. Just press the button and tell them what you need.
Also alot of generic drugs are made here and as for the army, well, mobile hospitals are hardly a new concept.

That's my bit of thread jacking for the day. Now where did I leave that bottle of cobra blood??

Ha lol i thought most of the Thai nurse population were over here?? every time i go to hospital most of the ladies are Thai [not that i'm complaining ]

[pinkcloud]

hey mtb john

me friend left here to go and work in new zealand..he left after a year, and he aint no 'do gooding mamsey pampsey' bloke either in your top notch care system, i shall not depress you with such details...., i shall not scare you with some realities of the country......stick to ya postcode lottery dream.....

cobra blood, my you fail in comparrison....try the survival tactics of a badly run nhs ward.....where its womens lower body bloods you try not to sink in....and pain meds being given up to 3 hours late when your post-op brain/spine surgery just after you been told you will die.....and i'd still rather risk our worst here 'au natural' hospital blood sources..and the top world class surgeons work in these top world class hopitals too...but they dont run the wards......

now back to topic......theres people who cant afford medicines..even in this country,......and i bet they would love the chance for having some of that pain relief took away.......its not all nhs on the dole prescription..or kings in castles with high paid jobs here you know....... then again lavender, the health food stores here are right expensive too

Edited by pinkcloud, 14 August 2011 - 10:05 PM.

[MTB John]

Post code dream?

I've lived here for seven years and I've seen all it's ugliness as well as it's bueaty. I've also seen plenty of 'visitors' who come here thinking they can fix whats not broken.
I'll let you in on a little secret - quality of life is far better here then most western countries.
Sure Thailand has more then it's fair share of homeless and destitute but when you consider they do not have to suffer the cold and a good healthy meal cost 20p they are far better off then their western counterparts.

Edited by MTB John, 15 August 2011 - 05:18 AM.

[barbara9999]

I think I heard of the D-Mannose for bladder infection on this site and checked the internet and ordered it. It really worked altho I only get a bladder infection about 4 x a year so now when i feel I am getting it i start drinking it (with a small glass of water) and like a miracle the bladder symptoms vanish.

[isobar]

You can use 3 cups of Borax , 3 cups of washing soda and your favorite soap to make laundry detergent .


Use a avocado to moisturize your skin.


Mayo and egg whites make a good hair conditioner.

[KayDub]

I'm in the middle of the road on the whole natural vs. medicine thing. I finished my undergrad in Boulder, CO, which is right behind Berkley in terms of hippy dippy-ness. Everyone was so quick to shun anything with a "chemical sounding name". For example maltodextrin. All it is is tapioca starch. There's a big trend to do the "paleo diet" where you only eat what our cavemen ancestors supposedly ate. I'm all for a healthy diet, but we've evolved as a species through agriculture and our brains subsequently got bigger. I was raised a vegetarian, not for any ideal reason, rather my mom just doesn't like meat. I never developed a taste for it, and will eat it if I'm a guest at someone's house and had to when I was running competitively because of anemia. But some vegetarians and vegans just annoy me, with the superiority complex. Not everything that's natural is good for you. Arsenic and hemlock and asbestos are all naturally occurring and I certainly wouldn't line up at Whole Foods to buy a bottle for $20. My fiance is celiac, he's been blood tested and legitimately has the disease. Now it's very trendy to be gluten-free and everyone suddenly says it's because they're "intolerant". It's good in a way because we have more places to eat and things to buy at the grocery store. But also since it's all these yuppies who are GF now, it's expensive and many people don't believe it's an actual food allergy and don't take us seriously and also provide "GF" products that have cross contamination and make my fiance sick. I really just don't believe in these silly fads that go to one extreme or another. And from a political standpoint I think these perspectives on food are seeping with privilege. So many people in the US alone don't have access to healthy food and can only buy junk with food stamps and mean while yuppies are driving up the prices of some rare organic fruit with magical powers and becoming home gardeners and saying everyone should do what they do. Like people who work 3 part time jobs and have kids and live in a shady apartment building living paycheque to paycheque can do that. Helping those people is a lot more constructive than claiming you're helping the earth with a natural lifestyle when all it is is serving some inner conscience issue and putting on a show for the other yuppies.

(Not everyone into natural lifestyles is like this! My mom is relatively into the whole natural thing and I have many friends who are. It's just a few bad apples that spoil the batch and they were abundant in their hypocrisy in Boulder, that's for sure.)

I'm more about moderation. I like to eat locally grown, organic food when I can. But I also shop for deals and don't feel bad when I eat a bowl of Frosted Flakes. I eat fish and occasionally chicken now because with the fiance being gluten free it was just too hard to cook. I eat mostly veggies and fruit though. That doesn't stop me from being a huge ice cream and popsicle junkie (omg I just got the best popsicles, they were $1.50 for the box, a generic brand, but with c antelope and honeydew flavours... they weren't made by local farmers with handpicked fruits in some form of twisted nostalgia but they are delicious!) I work out all the time, swimming is my big thing and I'm starting to learn sledge hockey and perfecting my mono skiing. I don't do yoga. I tried it when I was AB and hated it. It's the big thing for all the sorority girls to do, the girls in my JAPy sorority (in my defense I joined it to be more involved with my Jewish background and it was small and local and I ran the philanthropies) wouldn't shut up about it. But they weren't burning calories with the style that they did and mostly did it to buy expensive clothes and brag about how in touch with the world they were. On my bedside table I have loads of meds, some in orange prescription bottles some natural supplements. For pain I take oxycodone and methadone (my illness was Gullian-Barre plus another infection that acted like gangrene and just went and destroyed my muscles and nerves in my legs. I've had multiple spinal nerve blocks and am still in agonising pain. Next step is a stimulator.) Sometimes the pills make me groggy but they allow me to function, without them I can't get out of bed. But I also like to take hot baths with lavender epsom salts and take Baclofin along with Potassium for spasms and cramps.

I think this is a really great thread. Mixing modern medicine so to speak with natural medicine is a good path to go in my opinion. I don't agree with anyone who solely goes one way on the issue, especially people who eschew medical help whether it's drugs or having a doctor around.

So like I mentioned earlier the things I would add to this list are the warm baths in epsom salts (particularly a soothing scent like lavender or eucalyptus) are great for pain, cramps and spasms. Potassium, as a supplement or in bananas or other foods helps with cramps and spasms too. Also this seems obvious but stay hydrated. I'm at altitude (8000 ft above sea level) and down Nalgenes of water all day. It helps with skin issues, cramps, spasms, UTIs, etc. Just stay on top of your cathing if you up your fluid intake. But it's really amazing!

Edited by KayDub, 12 September 2011 - 07:32 AM.

[KayDub]

Sorry Lav for hijacking your thread in the wee hours of the morning and rambling on. I had painful spasms and couldn't sleep. My pain me just made me loopy.:sigh: Now I'm exhausted ha.