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[pinkcloud]

http://www.tv.com/na...29/summary.html

i just watched this, its real eye opening.

This man, scrapes peoples eyeballs, sticks a metal tube up peoples noses and cuts just under the chest area. Surgical healing.

A lot of people go to these places wishing to be healed. I think reading whatever religious book of choice they are into, realising that we are not born to this our earth for the sole purpose that its all aout us (thats like saying a star in the sky is there just to twinkle pretty and everyone says ooo look i love that star sooooo much,lets worship it) and maybe helping others and maybe give a reason to their God for them staying here - and filling their time with others rather than self-obsessing.

Now these spiritual leaders do say 'we cant cure you...but for some strange reason....this is very different to them saying this..than doctors saying this....maybe doctors ought to have a Holy leader in the room who will say 'but i will ask God to heal you' and a check out till in the same room too...to pay for the privilage..

Doctors have let me down...yet still i think they have cured more than the reported few cases out of thousands who get cured by these religios people.

if you watch the programme you will see a miricle before your very eyes..people having mini spaz attacks before fainting then getting up right away.....whow they are given sci for 2 seconds and its took away after the next second.

I will ask anyone who may think of joing these to get a miracle cure....dont. Its cruel, nasty and robbery of vulnerable people. And you will be part of a cult like them scary psychological tv thrillers where they are took from their families and drink sheeps blood in sacrifice to vampires and stuff.

[The Black Sheep]

This reminds me of something that happened to me exactly 1 year after my injury.

My dad worked with a religious man who knew another man, and he thought he was divinely touched and sent out to heal others. I think the intention was good, but then you have some, like those mentioned in the article, who seem to publicize it merely for the recognition. This man that my dad knew, he'd lived in Africa for several years as a missionary and was supposed to be executed. When the executioner pulled the trigger, it didn't fire... 5 times in a row. Fired into the air, but trying again at his head, it didn't. He says that while this happened, he heard God whisper to him that he'd been given another chance. The people holding him captive released him, afraid of his Godly protection.

Fast forward his life a few months later, he's holding a conference at a neighboring school. It is exactly my 1 year anniversary. Maybe it was desperation, or maybe I wanted to believe it was possible for a man to possess God's power, I went to his congregation speech. He plucked me out of the crowd after I was only there for 2 minutes and pulled me to the front. He asked me to stand, and 8 other people came to my sides and all placed their hands on me, pulling me upwards. I stood, and people started falling down crying, waving their hands in the air and praising Jesus. It. was. a. mess! My dad was even crying. Here his 14 year old baby was, standing with 10 people latched on, everyone's shouting or crying, stomping their feet on the ground, there might have even been someone having a seizure in the back...

Little did these observers know, I could stand. This wasn't a miracle, especially after 8 of them hoisted me upwards. BUT!!! I do believe it overwhelmed people with a love that I've never seen before on any scale. There was something divine about the whole situation. Maybe I was called to be there to help strengthen that, but that is as far as I'll ever give it credit.

This was all free. There were no promises, no guarantees, no disclaimers, and I did feel uplifted. It was a psychological trip, for sure. However, the cases you're posting here ADVERTISE like they do have a cure. They promise and mislead people into thinking that their hands are the equivalent to God's hands. A man who believes in God, truly, would never take that credit.

[pinkcloud]

hi blacksheep

thanks for sharing, this s definatly the good benefit side and just people alone knowing they care for others is enough to fill any room.

Think of a room at a comedy show..full of great atmosphere, laughing is infectious and we can 'feel' the emotions.

Then think of visiting a funeral...full of grief, longing, sadness, we can 'feel' the emotions. Even if we dont know the person in question its hard not to 'feel' some uncomfortable sadness.

this is good emotional help, feeling of hope, feelng of believing just by swapping dispair and pain with 'ok, we are made of God and its the circle of life' helps people to realise its nothing personal..our bodys are machines that go wrong..our minds help to improve the condition even if its swapping negative for positive thoghts...that they can turn the situation around and help others like them.

that even when they are told by doctors nothing can help...and discharged.the churches never discharge people (unless there are ones run by people who believe illness is punishment)

like your dads friend, it was his time to help others on earth, some say like little babies may go straight up to heaven to be angels and miss earths hard lessons
for me it explans all the sadness that happens...may be clap trap to others but if i didnt have reasons like this...i'd be bitter and angry at the world thinking it cruel and unfair..i like to have comfort, if some say i am like a child that needs a comfort blank-ey than yes i do.

one things for sure in this unsafe world and now me living in an unsafe body...i desire a safe thing to fall on so i dont hit hard ground...and some geezer in a black suit selling loads of bottled water...and having me eye balls scraped (apparently we have no nerves here anyway and to have them scraped aint no miracle operation tht dontt hurt)...aint safe to me.

you standing up is safe...and sweet of you to do so...exactly what i imagine you do in life any way