42 replies to this topic

[style71]

I agree with what you said and did fully. Violation? pleaseeeee. Like if there's a fire the hostess is going to run and get you the wheel chair. Some people ..I tell you need to be trampled

[Kwag_Myers]

style71, on 07 November 2011 - 04:49 AM, said:

Like if there's a fire the hostess is going to run and get you the wheel chair.

I wouldn't wish an SCI on anyone, but I think everyone needs to spend a week or two in a chair.

Personally, I never transfer simply because most restaurant chairs are too hard on my back. Having swing-away foot rests makes it do-able. I can see where some might prefer to transfer. And if someone insisted on moving my chair, I think I'd just find another place to eat.

[Doodle]

style71, on 07 November 2011 - 04:49 AM, said:

Like if there's a fire the hostess is going to run and get you the wheel chair. Some people ..I tell you need to be trampled

No but surely the person your with would!!

Anyway I have had my chair moved to the side and out of my reach before, but its never bothered me, I just got on with conversation and ate the food, and then who ever I was with, moved it back for me!

[paul1404]

What a load of crap the chairs part of me, if you transfer out then the chairs should go, simple! What would you do in a plane,? I been 35years never experienced any problems in resturants regarding seating, most time they ask do you want to stay in the chair and remove one, how hard is that ? Or if aim walking with crutches the first thing I do is ak them to put them somewhere please. If I had been with you I would have been imbaressed too , not with anything to do with the chair but arriving in a Mazda in the first place.

[Edinburgh Colin]

paul1404, on 14 November 2011 - 09:40 AM, said:

What a load of crap the chairs part of me, if you transfer out then the chairs should go, simple! What would you do in a plane,? I been 35years never experienced any problems in resturants regarding seating, most time they ask do you want to stay in the chair and remove one, how hard is that ? Or if aim walking with crutches the first thing I do is ak them to put them somewhere please. If I had been with you I would have been imbaressed too , not with anything to do with the chair but arriving in a Mazda in the first place.

Paul,
I like your angle, get on with it, and have a laugh at the same time wherever you can!

[edlee]

But Paulo,,,, maybe his Mazda is part of him, too????
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[Taylor818]

I don't transfer out of my chair when I go out to eat so I can't fully relate but it hardly seems necessary, to me, to create such a stir about the chair being moved while you eat. What if there's a fire, maybe I'm naive but I can't imagine people being so cruel as to leave you stranded. I understand watching out for your safety and not wanting to rely on other people to move around but life's too short to constantly worry about the "what ifs". There will always be ignorant people in this world but sometimes you have to pick and choose your battles in order to get the most out of your experiences. The world is a rather enjoyable place, if you let it be such.

[A trophy guy]

Who was the one making the fuss? Me or the restaraunt? This was the only restaurant (or bar, or anywhere) I've ever been to that insisted on such a nonsensical policy. And it was an empty restaurant to boot.

I'm sorry that many of you cannot relate with me on how my wheelchair is part of me; it is my ability to move independently. My problem with having it taken from me in a situation like the restaurant setting has little to do with the actual "what ifs" that may happen and more to do with respecting the autonomy of the person using the chair.

Of course no one is going to purposely not get my chair in the face of an emergency. But I have been in circumstances where all hell has broken loose, and let me tell you; all common logic goes out the window. I don't want to ever even be in the position of hoping that someone else does the right thing; or that someone else doesn't forget; in the face of such chaos. Especially for something as basic as determining my ability to move.






*and I never did have the question answered: if I chose to stay in my chair in the first place, how would my wheelchair have been any less of an "obstruction" to this restaurant? If anything, me getting out of it caused the restaurant to endure less obstruction from my chair due to the fact that I could fold it up and pull it in very close to me.

[wheelie182]

I personally don't get out of my chair when I go out, I don't like the static feeling, and unless its a couch or something, its rarely more comfortable. But I can definitely relate to your feelings on always wanting it close by, its a dependency that a lot of people just won't understand. A little like handing over your wallet. I often leave my chair at home when I have to take stuff down to the tip and have no space for it in the car, and each and every time I'm thinking to myself, .... this is a very bad idea.

But as has already been mentioned, if the situation should occur again, and the chairs are movable, have them put *their* chair out the back.

[paul1404]

A trophy guy, on 15 November 2011 - 04:49 AM, said:

Who was the one making the fuss? Me or the restaraunt? This was the only restaurant (or bar, or anywhere) I've ever been to that insisted on such a nonsensical policy. And it was an empty restaurant to boot.

I'm sorry that many of you cannot relate with me on how my wheelchair is part of me; it is my ability to move independently. My problem with having it taken from me in a situation like the restaurant setting has little to do with the actual "what ifs" that may happen and more to do with respecting the autonomy of the person using the chair.

Of course no one is going to purposely not get my chair in the face of an emergency. But I have been in circumstances where all hell has broken loose, and let me tell you; all common logic goes out the window. I don't want to ever even be in the position of hoping that someone else does the right thing; or that someone else doesn't forget; in the face of such chaos. Especially for something as basic as determining my ability to move.



*and I never did have the question answered: if I chose to stay in my chair in the first place, how would my wheelchair have been any less of an "obstruction" to this restaurant? If anything, me getting out of it caused the restaurant to endure less obstruction from my chair due to the fact that I could fold it up and pull it in very close to me.

Question 1 who's making the fuss
Answer You! 5 points

Question 2 obstruction in a restaurant
Answer because you can move it if needed 5 points

I ll paraphrase I might need my wheelchair handy in case of hell braking lose well why not keep it handy under your arse. If every body took your attitude an establishment could end up with many wheelchairs and scooters all over the place.

Edited by paul1404, 15 November 2011 - 01:19 PM.

[LeahC]

Would it still be an issue if you were IN the chair, I mean it'd still be in the same place!

[A trophy guy]

"If every body took your attitude an establishment could end up with many wheelchairs and scooters all over the place."

Paul, I would only hope that any establishments would ever have wheelchairs and scooters "all over the place". In order for that to be reality, more and more disabled folks need to feel comfortable and welcomed out and about in the world.

Now if there were ever wheelchairs and scooters "all over the place" in a restaraunt or bar or whatever, the fact of whether or not these disabled people are actually sitting in these pieces of equipment would truly be irrelevant. They would be in the restaraunt, one way or another, so if they chose to get out of their ambulatory-assistive devices, it wouldn't impact the "obstructiveness" (heavy emphasis on the quotes) of those devices one way or another.

[Priority Seatin]

At all restaurants I've been to, they always remove THEIR chair at the table and let me roll in. For restaurants with booths instead of tables, it has never been a problem; I transfer to the booth and the chair is fine as long as it is "tucked in" as close to the booth as possible.

But like you, if a restaurant acted like that, I would have a serious problem with it unless it is very obviously obstructing a corridor.

Edited by Priority Seatin, 20 November 2011 - 01:46 AM.