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[Irish Wheelz]

scaldedcat, on 18 December 2011 - 03:57 AM, said:

I'm not sure if I've got this right, but biggdoggpa you are not sci injured yourself, you are best friend to someone who is. If that is incorrect, I do apologise. While I am aware this site is there for those friends or family of people with SCI, it seems to me that the posts you make are all about you and your opinions, I have never seen comments about your friend's opinions or why he or she isn't a member themselves.
But whatever the case, to have a shot, whether it be tongue in cheek or not, to allis53ca, is long way from appropriate from someone who isn't actually SCI injured. You may do well to read back the history of posts made by this guy and what he has been through to make himself completely idependent. I have long read his posts which are generally less than a line long but always make his point in a powerful yet subtle way.
I'm quite sure he is aware he doesn't have to read any post's he doesn't want to but also has the right to reply to any posts he does want to without this advice coming from you. He also doesn't need me speaking for him, but I think you would do well to ease up on the advice to people who certainly, especially in this instance, don't need it.

I'm pretty sure he was joking buddy. I'm glad bigdoggpa is on here wether he is sci or not. There are plenty of members on here who don't have an sci. As long as there on here offering their input and giving us helpful advice, I don't mind that.

But lets get back to the topic.

Edited by Irish Wheelz, 18 December 2011 - 04:08 AM.

[jenny407]

dom, on 16 December 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:

BTW where is Jenny407 when you need her? our resident German speaking English Prof ? I had much fun once arguing with people about the difference between Should/Must/Ought to etc etc then Could/would what fun modal auxiliary verbs can be!!!!!

Ah dom, thanks for your trust in me! I did look at my dictionaries and found only not very helpful info. I guess edlee is right ....

allis53ca, on 17 December 2011 - 10:27 PM, said:

....i want the red - button back....

- allis53ca

<------ Here, just for you ... Tried to copy it, didn't work properly --- hmm ...

scaldedcat, I know and appreciate allis a lot - partly for his great sarcastic sense of humour. I'm sure you meant well but I also hope allis could see bigg was joking.

ATG: I also think Vanessa didn't intend to mock you. A thread on a forum is not mainly about facts, about right and wrong. It is a lot like a picture, with so many colours (= different points of views, perspectives, ways of seeing things). (<--- Analogy, dom! LOL) Perhaps you can try to see the posts like that. I do. Interesting subject, anyway!

My view? Not sure. For some people, it is consoling and helpful to think there is a reason (e. g. very Christian people, like rue). For others, it is not, it is an illusion. We can only try to decide for our own lives - I feel that telling others about their lives is plain arrogant bigotry.

I hope things that happen make sense somehow but I often find they obviously don't.

Quote from a fav song of mine, 'In diesem Moment' (Roger Cicero):
"I can't see a deeper sense in all of this."


And another, different view:
"Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forward." (Kierkegaard)

[scaldedcat]

Irish wheelz

Not sure whether he was joking or not buddy, just an unnecessary post in my opinion. I know I will cop flack from he's and your support group, but I certainly didn't join to become popular and chalk up rating points. By the way buddy, giving one of your mates two + ticks still only achieves one point. Still, it's a nice thought.

[bongorum]

On the matter of free will raised by stillfingers, my own opinion accords closely with Tatiana's, as I, too, believe that freedom of the will is but an illusion. To my understanding the entire universe is subject to the rigid order of nature's laws, and in that order physical phenomena tend to occur in accordance with an unyielding sequence of cause and effect. In other words, to know every single cause tending towards a particular effect is to be able to predict with mathematical precision the effect itself beforehand. It's the same with us humans: to know everything about a person’s heredity and the environment that produced them, as well as all causes impinging on them, is to be able to predict with exactitude how they will react to a given situation. One notable problem that arises, though, if one believes that our conduct in every instance is in a sense constrained by heredity, environment and past causes is that no one can be blamed for any crime they commit as they really had no alternative but to act as they did. Thoughts?

[dom]

bongorum, on 18 December 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:

On the matter of free will raised by stillfingers, my own opinion accords closely with Tatiana’s, as I, too, believe that freedom of the will is but an illusion. To my understanding the entire universe is subject to the rigid order of nature's laws, and in that order physical phenomena tend to occur in accordance with an unyielding sequence of cause and effect. In other words, to know every single cause tending towards a particular effect is to be able to predict with mathematical precision the effect itself beforehand. It's the same with us humans: to know everything about a person’s heredity and the environment that produced them, as well as all causes impinging on them, is to be able to predict with exactitude how they will react to a given situation. One notable problem that arises if one believes that our conduct in every instance is in a sense constrained by heredity, environment and past causes is that no one can be blamed for any crime they commit as they really had no alternative but to act as they did. Thoughts?

That seems like a Dostoevskian dilemma my friend, i will wait for others to add first

[Zack]

I don't believe there is truly any rhyme or reason for anything. It is wha it is!!

[lavenderthistle]

http://www.newton.ac.uk/newtlife.html


Please meet Sir Isaac Newton

More specifically the third law of motion

http://csep10.phys.u...ewton3laws.html

Edited by lavenderthistle, 19 December 2011 - 03:56 PM.

[Big E]

A trophy guy, on 15 December 2011 - 03:32 AM, said:

Another common occurrence that I find disagreeable is when someone tells me "you had what happened to you happen for a reason". A reason. Really? Who's reason? God's reason? How curious for someone to presume to know anything at all about my relationship with God (or lack thereof).



There is no ultimate reason behind my accident. It was an ACCIDENT. Followed by serious, complicated, urgent events that that accident itself brought about. This is part of the sobering reality of life. IT JUST HAPPENED. Life itself exists only in such a fragile, delicate "just-right" balancing act, if one were to really examine all that COULD go wrong, madness would practically be guaranteed. "Blessed but Cursed" is so apt not because it refers to any higher deity bestowing these characteristics but because it captures so well the inherent dichotomy that is humanity. And I feel that I identify with and understand, on a much stronger and deeper level, those three words now more than I ever could have if my life hadn't taken such an unexpected turn. I feel both sides of the coin deep in my bones.

I agree bro, No way this shit happens for a reason, nobody can tell me there is a good reason that I became paralyzed or you or any of us. It is simply shitty luck in my book. You are right, "it just happened". Could happen to anyone at anytime, there is no ultimate reason.

[Priscilla]

Big E, on 17 January 2012 - 05:33 AM, said:

I agree bro, No way this shit happens for a reason, nobody can tell me there is a good reason that I became paralyzed or you or any of us. It is simply shitty luck in my book. You are right, "it just happened". Could happen to anyone at anytime, there is no ultimate reason.

I agree 100%. This saying seems to be a cop-out when people have no friggin clue what to say. I like to think of it as shitty things happen to good people. No one has yet to give me a reason from God himself why my less than six month old car suddenly veered off to the right to hit a concrete base of a light pole and flip! How a car timed it "just right" to hit an illegal base on the side of the interstate, there just is no explanation! People better learn to deal with the unfair part of life and get used to it. We are all a prime example of anything can just go wrong without any warning and for NO reason at all.

[Big E]

Priscilla, on 18 January 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

Big E, on 17 January 2012 - 05:33 AM, said:

I agree bro, No way this shit happens for a reason, nobody can tell me there is a good reason that I became paralyzed or you or any of us. It is simply shitty luck in my book. You are right, "it just happened". Could happen to anyone at anytime, there is no ultimate reason.

I agree 100%. This saying seems to be a cop-out when people have no friggin clue what to say. I like to think of it as shitty things happen to good people. No one has yet to give me a reason from God himself why my less than six month old car suddenly veered off to the right to hit a concrete base of a light pole and flip! How a car timed it "just right" to hit an illegal base on the side of the interstate, there just is no explanation! People better learn to deal with the unfair part of life and get used to it. We are all a prime example of anything can just go wrong without any warning and for NO reason at all.

Exactly, it is great to try and be a good person but it sure as hell doesn't matter when it comes to what is going to happen in your life. I don't think I was a really bad guy but I can't even count how many terrible things have happened to me or my family for no reason. Am I supposed to believe that God just got bored and said well lets see how this really good person can handle it if I cause him to have a terrible accident and turn his life upside down and cause him to lose his family, job, and then not even give him any benefits from his government just so we can see if he's strong enough to handle it or if he blows his head off instead.????????????????? SHIT HAPPENS, THERE'S NO REASON FOR EVERYTHING LIKE PEOPLE PRETEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[richo]

A trophy guy, on 15 December 2011 - 06:50 AM, said:

StillFingers, on 15 December 2011 - 05:37 AM, said:

Happens, happened in this context is about the past, something we cannot change.

Why studied/lived to long is but wishing...wasted time/breath....everyone has their own pace.

Reason is a person's rationale for understanding life...thus interrupted differently by all.

Be my guest live in that hell...this moment is fine by me...oops it's gone...another now!

ATG, your posts are mostly about how others see you...is life that disabling, your focus so pointed at wrongs...what do you love, enjoy, we like sharing that also...or is that none of our business.

I'm gonna rest, listen to some tunes...

Hope life gets better for you bro...but then that's just my wish!

I am saddened that you read what I post and come away feeling the need to "hope life gets better for me". Many of the things you, and others, see as negative or complaining posts, I simply do not.

This is a prime example. See how I ended the post: " "Blessed but Cursed" is so apt not because it refers to any higher deity bestowing these characteristics but because it captures so well the inherent dichotomy that is humanity. And I feel that I identify with and understand, on a much stronger and deeper level, those three words now more than I ever could have if my life hadn't taken such an unexpected turn. I feel both sides of the coin deep in my bones."

This is anything but negative; anything but a complaint. It details the growth and wisdom I have (and will continue) reaped as a human being as a result of becoming a paraplegic. So I feel I must somehow do a better job transmitting what it is that I have to say; because I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's. Not for a second.

LOL