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#1 Erica

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 06:51 PM

I currently take spasm medication(baclofen), and lyrica for nerve pain. Does anyone know realistically how much alcohol is safe?
I'm not looking to go out and get schlockered every night, but I'd like to have some drinks now and then without worries.
And perhaps, the option of getting schlockered if i feel the need :)

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#2 ramma7

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 06:58 PM

I've tried having a couple of beers before and still take the baclofen and i go downhill pretty quick.
So now I don't bother. If I have a couple of beers I don't take the baclofen. Not saying it's right to do but if i mix them both it's not pretty.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 07:08 PM

Baclofen completely ruined drinking for me. i don't bother.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 07:14 PM

Like ramma i will skip my baclofen if I know I am going to drink and even then only have a couple drinks. Things go bad pretty quick. Sucks I loved my beer and it loved me...lol

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 07:33 PM

I take 20 mg of Baclofen 4 times a day, as well as 10 mg Valium 4 times a day, and a Host of narcotics for pain daily.
I limit myself to 2 Rum & Cokes a Night, while in bed. And I swear I'm addicted to the 2 weak Rum & Cokes! They taste delicious, and I'm not myself at night if I miss them.

They haven't had any interaction with my Meds that I notice.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:07 PM

I'm sorry, I don't have anything of substance to add to what has already been said, except to say; I was a tad misled with the thread title. ;)


ETA: The title's been changed, so this post is now irrelevant.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:31 PM

I take baclofen, lyrica, naproxen, amytriptyline and tramadol and do like a tipple, I find that I get drunk quicker but I don't seem to get hangovers anymore. I do find that I am very sleepy the day after I've had a bit to drink so maybe thats an interaction with my meds.

Maybe you need to play around with quantities and find whats right for you.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:40 PM

I think the clue may be on the drug bottle!

For example, high doses of Diazepam and alcohol, very bad idea, it can lead to respiratory failure.

Alcohol and lyrica may increase the risk of problems, such as dizziness or drowsiness.

Alcohol and baclofen will make you drowsy, and decrease muscle tone even more, which can be bad if you need your tone for balance.

Exactly how much alcohol you can tolerate will vary, depending on your weight, tolerance and dosage of drug.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:47 PM

I wish I said that! :(

Thanks Simon! :)
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:03 PM

I drink socially and I used to be on high dozes of baclofen, dantroline, and tizanidine before my baclofen pump. I ended up getting drunk faster but it might have been due to the fact that i hadnt drank in a while due to my injury. Now i put them back like the good ol days i just have to watch my bladder. It would never hurt to not take tem but obviously by the head count on this thread experimenting is not going to kill you, just take it easy. the mod is right too, read the label, especially of that nerve pain one. cheers.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:18 PM

obviously by the head count on this thread experimenting is not going to kill you


Except for the heads that are no longer able to reply!

Eeeek!

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:39 PM

I almost did myself in on new years eve, had quite a few glasses of champange, I had already taken baclofen and tramadol during the day, realized it was 10pm and I should take my nighttime meds so I wouldn't end up hurting more later, not thinking. Took my soma and tramadol. since I'm a walker, it wasn't so good. I couldn't even stand up by myself. Big thanks to my mother to was holding me up anytime I tried to get up that night, and making sure I was still breathing after I passed out. It was probably the worst experience I've had. Drug interactions with booze is not fun and can get very dangerous before you even have a chance to realize it. I think i'll stick to one or two drinks from now on. I don't think I can ever go over that again.
Recovering from that yesterday was terrible, my AD was on the fritz and my body wasn't ready to forgive me. Even with all the water I continued to drink all day yesterday it wasn't until last night I started to feel better.

Just be careful if your going to attempt anything over one or two drinks. and make sure if you do, don't touch your meds afterwards.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:44 PM

I take baclofen, lyrica, naproxen, amytriptyline and tramadol and do like a tipple, I find that I get drunk quicker but I don't seem to get hangovers anymore. I do find that I am very sleepy the day after I've had a bit to drink so maybe thats an interaction with my meds.

Maybe you need to play around with quantities and find whats right for you.

Just a warning: be careful when combining tramadol and alcohol; as both are respiratory depressants. When combined, the chances of respiratory failure are greatly increased.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

I take baclofen and medication for nerve pain and have never had issues.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:48 PM

I must admit to mixing medication and alcohol however if I have drunk to excess (ie NYE) I will usually miss the evening/night time dose, taking baclofen, lyrica, dihydrocodeine and tramadol during the day does not affect my ability to drink in the evening (Thank the Lord!)

Sadly the hangover is still as bad as ever :(

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:50 PM

If you're on high doses of oral baclofen, sometimes you can get increased spasticity the next day untill the baclofen has had time to build back up in your system.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 10:32 PM

All very interesting, i'm coming away with some good points of view. Ill try some light drinks in moderation and see how i do...more posts to come. Thanks for the input. Cheers!
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 11:32 PM

I haven't had any problems with drinking and taking my med. I just get sick of haveing to run back and forth to the bathroom drives me crazie

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:11 AM

Sadly the hangover is still as bad as ever :(

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:45 AM

I currently take spasm medication(baclofen), and lyrica for nerve pain. Does anyone know realistically how much alcohol is safe?
I'm not looking to go out and get schlockered every night, but I'd like to have some drinks now and then without worries.
And perhaps, the option of getting schlockered if i feel the need :)


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If you have any medications that have a warning label advising to not consume alcohol there IS a reason! MANY of the medications if combined with alcohol can cause an overdose effect of the prescription medication often causing the person to stop breathing. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BY UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGER OF COMBINING Rx & BOOZE! Ask your Dr. how long the medication stays in your system...some medications will stay in your system for days therefore you can NOT count 100% on "spacing the 2 substances far apart" as being "safe". ASK YOUR DOCTOR!!!
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 03:21 AM


I currently take spasm medication(baclofen), and lyrica for nerve pain. Does anyone know realistically how much alcohol is safe?
I'm not looking to go out and get schlockered every night, but I'd like to have some drinks now and then without worries.
And perhaps, the option of getting schlockered if i feel the need :)


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If you have any medications that have a warning label advising to not consume alcohol there IS a reason! MANY of the medications if combined with alcohol can cause an overdose effect of the prescription medication often causing the person to stop breathing. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BY UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGER OF COMBINING Rx & BOOZE! Ask your Dr. how long the medication stays in your system...some medications will stay in your system for days therefore you can NOT count 100% on "spacing the 2 substances far apart" as being "safe". ASK YOUR DOCTOR!!!


Yes, and many people have died from underestimating the dangers of booze alone, and Rx's alone. I think you are going just a tad overboard here. Yes, it probably would never be advised by a doctor that it is safe to mix certain medications with alcohol. But they HAVE to say that.

Realistically, people are going to drink. Alcohol is a part of our society, part of our everyday culture. The key is to be armed with knowledge of what you are taking and exactly what the interactions are 1) with the other medications you are taking 2) with alcohol 3) with alcohol and the other medications combined. And to always imbibe in moderation.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 04:12 AM

I take 50mg of tramadol twice a day and 100mg of Baclofen and 10mg of oxybutinun
I don't drink as much as I used to but I still get a wee bit pished every now and then
I must admit it didn't even occur to me that I might be doing something dangerous
I guess its down to personal experience, I've never had any adverse effects, butthen I'm a solid guy and I always have had a strong tolerance for the booze.

maybe I'll avoid the tequlia slammer competitions but other wise business as usual.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 08:04 AM

Well my input is limited as I've been teetotal since my accident. Couldn't drink for a long time and then the whole bladder, falling, being wasted in a chair thing was enough to keep me dry.
General comment - shame this thread was not started a couple of weeks ago before the "season to be jolly"!
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 08:40 AM

This evening I decided to have 1 of my personal 2 drink limit at night early. Right after Dinner against the Medical warning on my prescriptions label. I woke up 4 hours later to find I fell asleep half way through my Drink.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 04:35 PM

I've never had any problems, i do forget to take meds after a night out tho sometimes and then the next day i'm all spazzy only because i forgotten to take baclofen the night before. If i was on strong medications like diazepam or something then drink would be a big No No!
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:08 AM



I currently take spasm medication(baclofen), and lyrica for nerve pain. Does anyone know realistically how much alcohol is safe?
I'm not looking to go out and get schlockered every night, but I'd like to have some drinks now and then without worries.
And perhaps, the option of getting schlockered if i feel the need :)


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If you have any medications that have a warning label advising to not consume alcohol there IS a reason! MANY of the medications if combined with alcohol can cause an overdose effect of the prescription medication often causing the person to stop breathing. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BY UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGER OF COMBINING Rx & BOOZE! Ask your Dr. how long the medication stays in your system...some medications will stay in your system for days therefore you can NOT count 100% on "spacing the 2 substances far apart" as being "safe". ASK YOUR DOCTOR!!!


Yes, and many people have died from underestimating the dangers of booze alone, and Rx's alone. I think you are going just a tad overboard here. Yes, it probably would never be advised by a doctor that it is safe to mix certain medications with alcohol. But they HAVE to say that.

Realistically, people are going to drink. Alcohol is a part of our society, part of our everyday culture. The key is to be armed with knowledge of what you are taking and exactly what the interactions are 1) with the other medications you are taking 2) with alcohol 3) with alcohol and the other medications combined. And to always imbibe in moderation.


WOW! REALLY? Did you by any chance notice the ONLY "vote up" on your 1st post (at least as of the time of writing THIS post) was MINE? And I would like to know IF your read my entire post or JUST what was in red and/or LARGE PRINT? :seehearspeak:

I didn't say a person shouldn't EVER DRINK if they take medications. The question was how much is safe to drink with the medications listed....without any information as to whether they planned on abstaining from their Rx meds & if so for how long OR how much they planned on drinking other than saying they didn't want to get schnockered which can mean different amounts to different people. I then fallowed it up with an explanation that because SOME of the medications we are given can & do stay in the system for an extended length of time (not just the amount of time that passes between doses) & that it would be best to ask/consult their Dr. as to how long that time frame is. I never said to not drink at all, & I didn't say go ask the Dr. "Hey doc how much booze & Baclofen can I mix?". And I'm also not the only one who said what the dangers were/are...this including The Boss AND YOU ATG. So please do enlighten me as to how exactly it is that I "going just a tad bit overboard" with my post? :dunno:
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:40 AM




I currently take spasm medication(baclofen), and lyrica for nerve pain. Does anyone know realistically how much alcohol is safe?
I'm not looking to go out and get schlockered every night, but I'd like to have some drinks now and then without worries.
And perhaps, the option of getting schlockered if i feel the need :)


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If you have any medications that have a warning label advising to not consume alcohol there IS a reason! MANY of the medications if combined with alcohol can cause an overdose effect of the prescription medication often causing the person to stop breathing. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BY UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGER OF COMBINING Rx & BOOZE! Ask your Dr. how long the medication stays in your system...some medications will stay in your system for days therefore you can NOT count 100% on "spacing the 2 substances far apart" as being "safe". ASK YOUR DOCTOR!!!


Yes, and many people have died from underestimating the dangers of booze alone, and Rx's alone. I think you are going just a tad overboard here. Yes, it probably would never be advised by a doctor that it is safe to mix certain medications with alcohol. But they HAVE to say that.

Realistically, people are going to drink. Alcohol is a part of our society, part of our everyday culture. The key is to be armed with knowledge of what you are taking and exactly what the interactions are 1) with the other medications you are taking 2) with alcohol 3) with alcohol and the other medications combined. And to always imbibe in moderation.


WOW! REALLY? Did you by any chance notice the ONLY "vote up" on your 1st post (at least as of the time of writing THIS post) was MINE? And I would like to know IF your read my entire post or JUST what was in red and/or LARGE PRINT? :seehearspeak:

I didn't say a person shouldn't EVER DRINK if they take medications. The question was how much is safe to drink with the medications listed....without any information as to whether they planned on abstaining from their Rx meds & if so for how long OR how much they planned on drinking other than saying they didn't want to get schnockered which can mean different amounts to different people. I then fallowed it up with an explanation that because SOME of the medications we are given can & do stay in the system for an extended length of time (not just the amount of time that passes between doses) & that it would be best to ask/consult their Dr. as to how long that time frame is. I never said to not drink at all, & I didn't say go ask the Dr. "Hey doc how much booze & Baclofen can I mix?". And I'm also not the only one who said what the dangers were/are...this including The Boss AND YOU ATG. So please do enlighten me as to how exactly it is that I "going just a tad bit overboard" with my post? :dunno:



"NONE!!!

If you have any medications that have a warning label advising to not consume alcohol there IS a reason! MANY of the medications if combined with alcohol can cause an overdose effect of the prescription medication often causing the person to stop breathing. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BY UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGER OF COMBINING Rx & BOOZE"

This little snippet is what I would describe as a bit "overboard". The all-caps, the exclamation points, and you are saying that if someone is taking the meds that the OP listed, no alcohol whatsoever should ever be consumed. While no one would argue that that course of action would be bad, I just don't think it is realistic, nor as "scary" of a situation as you are making it. Not if you are informed about your meds and the possible interactions. I am not disagreeing with your overall message, howver.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:07 AM





I currently take spasm medication(baclofen), and lyrica for nerve pain. Does anyone know realistically how much alcohol is safe?
I'm not looking to go out and get schlockered every night, but I'd like to have some drinks now and then without worries.
And perhaps, the option of getting schlockered if i feel the need :)


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If you have any medications that have a warning label advising to not consume alcohol there IS a reason! MANY of the medications if combined with alcohol can cause an overdose effect of the prescription medication often causing the person to stop breathing. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BY UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGER OF COMBINING Rx & BOOZE! Ask your Dr. how long the medication stays in your system...some medications will stay in your system for days therefore you can NOT count 100% on "spacing the 2 substances far apart" as being "safe". ASK YOUR DOCTOR!!!


Yes, and many people have died from underestimating the dangers of booze alone, and Rx's alone. I think you are going just a tad overboard here. Yes, it probably would never be advised by a doctor that it is safe to mix certain medications with alcohol. But they HAVE to say that.

Realistically, people are going to drink. Alcohol is a part of our society, part of our everyday culture. The key is to be armed with knowledge of what you are taking and exactly what the interactions are 1) with the other medications you are taking 2) with alcohol 3) with alcohol and the other medications combined. And to always imbibe in moderation.


WOW! REALLY? Did you by any chance notice the ONLY "vote up" on your 1st post (at least as of the time of writing THIS post) was MINE? And I would like to know IF your read my entire post or JUST what was in red and/or LARGE PRINT? :seehearspeak:

I didn't say a person shouldn't EVER DRINK if they take medications. The question was how much is safe to drink with the medications listed....without any information as to whether they planned on abstaining from their Rx meds & if so for how long OR how much they planned on drinking other than saying they didn't want to get schnockered which can mean different amounts to different people. I then fallowed it up with an explanation that because SOME of the medications we are given can & do stay in the system for an extended length of time (not just the amount of time that passes between doses) & that it would be best to ask/consult their Dr. as to how long that time frame is. I never said to not drink at all, & I didn't say go ask the Dr. "Hey doc how much booze & Baclofen can I mix?". And I'm also not the only one who said what the dangers were/are...this including The Boss AND YOU ATG. So please do enlighten me as to how exactly it is that I "going just a tad bit overboard" with my post? :dunno:



"NONE!!!

If you have any medications that have a warning label advising to not consume alcohol there IS a reason! MANY of the medications if combined with alcohol can cause an overdose effect of the prescription medication often causing the person to stop breathing. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BY UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGER OF COMBINING Rx & BOOZE"

This little snippet is what I would describe as a bit "overboard". The all-caps, the exclamation points, and you are saying that if someone is taking the meds that the OP listed, no alcohol whatsoever should ever be consumed. While no one would argue that that course of action would be bad, I just don't think it is realistic, nor as "scary" of a situation as you are making it. Not if you are informed about your meds and the possible interactions. I am not disagreeing with your overall message, howver.



That answered my question....NO YOU DID NOT READ everything YOU read ONLY certain PARTS!

This is all done in type via our computers therefore we can only put so much emphasis on what we say. It would be different if this were in REAL LIFE & we were all face to face in a conference room or auditorium...then we could have the inflections of the person's voice & volume to gauge the comments or reactions of others. However I think that could also have the potential for trouble in that...here we are on-line & therefore the person writing/speaking has the chance to say their "peace" & then wait for the next person rather than just trying to outshout the other guy.

My ONLY intention with what I posted AND HOW I posted it was merely to grab the attention to the most important parts. "How much drinking is SAFE while taking those meds?", answer is still NONE...there isn't a safe amount to drink WHILE TAKING THE MEDS which I believe ATG & others also stated just perhaps not as point blank. In smaller print I also stated that my reason for asking a Dr. FIRST was only because some of the meds we are given can stay in the system for days or (such as the ones that have to "build up in your system" BEFORE they start working) for weeks.....hence my "ASK your Doc.!" statement.

If you don't disagree with (see ATG...no caps :tease: ---> ) what I said...um...er...uh...what exactly is it that compelled you to even take the time to "critique" my post? Just wonderin' seeing as this should be even easier than "agreeing to disagree" since we supposedly are not in disagreement. :dunno:
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:13 AM






I currently take spasm medication(baclofen), and lyrica for nerve pain. Does anyone know realistically how much alcohol is safe?
I'm not looking to go out and get schlockered every night, but I'd like to have some drinks now and then without worries.
And perhaps, the option of getting schlockered if i feel the need :)


NONE!!!

If you have any medications that have a warning label advising to not consume alcohol there IS a reason! MANY of the medications if combined with alcohol can cause an overdose effect of the prescription medication often causing the person to stop breathing. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BY UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGER OF COMBINING Rx & BOOZE! Ask your Dr. how long the medication stays in your system...some medications will stay in your system for days therefore you can NOT count 100% on "spacing the 2 substances far apart" as being "safe". ASK YOUR DOCTOR!!!


Yes, and many people have died from underestimating the dangers of booze alone, and Rx's alone. I think you are going just a tad overboard here. Yes, it probably would never be advised by a doctor that it is safe to mix certain medications with alcohol. But they HAVE to say that.

Realistically, people are going to drink. Alcohol is a part of our society, part of our everyday culture. The key is to be armed with knowledge of what you are taking and exactly what the interactions are 1) with the other medications you are taking 2) with alcohol 3) with alcohol and the other medications combined. And to always imbibe in moderation.


WOW! REALLY? Did you by any chance notice the ONLY "vote up" on your 1st post (at least as of the time of writing THIS post) was MINE? And I would like to know IF your read my entire post or JUST what was in red and/or LARGE PRINT? :seehearspeak:

I didn't say a person shouldn't EVER DRINK if they take medications. The question was how much is safe to drink with the medications listed....without any information as to whether they planned on abstaining from their Rx meds & if so for how long OR how much they planned on drinking other than saying they didn't want to get schnockered which can mean different amounts to different people. I then fallowed it up with an explanation that because SOME of the medications we are given can & do stay in the system for an extended length of time (not just the amount of time that passes between doses) & that it would be best to ask/consult their Dr. as to how long that time frame is. I never said to not drink at all, & I didn't say go ask the Dr. "Hey doc how much booze & Baclofen can I mix?". And I'm also not the only one who said what the dangers were/are...this including The Boss AND YOU ATG. So please do enlighten me as to how exactly it is that I "going just a tad bit overboard" with my post? :dunno:



"NONE!!!

If you have any medications that have a warning label advising to not consume alcohol there IS a reason! MANY of the medications if combined with alcohol can cause an overdose effect of the prescription medication often causing the person to stop breathing. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BY UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGER OF COMBINING Rx & BOOZE"

This little snippet is what I would describe as a bit "overboard". The all-caps, the exclamation points, and you are saying that if someone is taking the meds that the OP listed, no alcohol whatsoever should ever be consumed. While no one would argue that that course of action would be bad, I just don't think it is realistic, nor as "scary" of a situation as you are making it. Not if you are informed about your meds and the possible interactions. I am not disagreeing with your overall message, howver.



That answered my question....NO YOU DID NOT READ everything YOU read ONLY certain PARTS!

This is all done in type via our computers therefore we can only put so much emphasis on what we say. It would be different if this were in REAL LIFE & we were all face to face in a conference room or auditorium...then we could have the inflections of the person's voice & volume to gauge the comments or reactions of others. However I think that could also have the potential for trouble in that...here we are on-line & therefore the person writing/speaking has the chance to say their "peace" & then wait for the next person rather than just trying to outshout the other guy.

My ONLY intention with what I posted AND HOW I posted it was merely to grab the attention to the most important parts. "How much drinking is SAFE while taking those meds?", answer is still NONE...there isn't a safe amount to drink WHILE TAKING THE MEDS which I believe ATG & others also stated just perhaps not as point blank. In smaller print I also stated that my reason for asking a Dr. FIRST was only because some of the meds we are given can stay in the system for days or (such as the ones that have to "build up in your system" BEFORE they start working) for weeks.....hence my "ASK your Doc.!" statement.

If you don't disagree with (see ATG...no caps :tease: ---> ) what I said...um...er...uh...what exactly is it that compelled you to even take the time to "critique" my post? Just wonderin' seeing as this should be even easier than "agreeing to disagree" since we supposedly are not in disagreement. :dunno:


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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:32 PM

Baclofen causes confusion and alcohol may intensify this effect ........ if you take your Meds and become tongue twisted then you'll know, please be careful try it at home first to see how you feel. As you know everyone's limits are different so your body will give you the best answer. Proceed with caution.
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