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[Zammo]

My local Tesco has apparently adopted a much tougher policy recently. They are photographing vehicles and clamping them for parking in disabled bays without displaying a badge. They then charge a high penalty fee to release them.

I must admit last time I went there 50% were still being used by AB's but I did see a member of staff taking photo's of them.

But I use two other local precincts and the disabled bays are basically used like any other parking space.

[Yasko]

Apparelyzed, on Aug 25 2006, 08:00 AM, said:

We just went shopping to Tescos, parked in the disabled bay, put my blue badge in the window as usual.

Came back to the car to find some idiot had parked on the crosshatched area, so close we couldn't open the door wide enough to get in. I moved his/her wing mirror in to get past, and "accidently" scratched his/her car in the process of get through the gap, which I had to do a couple of times just for good measure.

Karen went inside to complain and ask about clamping the car, and was told they don't clamp cars who park incorrectly in the disabled bays, and they don't enforce the penalising of incorrectly parked cars in the disabled bays!

So, basicly, the bays are for anyone, as if you do park there without a disabled badge, Tescos aren't going to do anything about it.

I'm now working on some leaflets to put under windscreen wipers for idiots who park where they shouldn't.

Simon.

It's even worse when they leave shopping carts in the middle of the disable parking - idiots!
P.S. I love your "accidental" scratching!

[Rotarymotion]

Automatic Blue Badge Issue if you're old. No proof of disability required.

The Whole Blue Badge Issue needs sorting out. I believe that one of the reasons that so many non-badge-holders abuse the disabled bays is because they constantly see people getting out of cars displaying blue badges, and these "holders" then have no difficulty in walking around a supermarket!

Until the criteria for issue is sorted out, and badges are taken off people who can walk around a supermarket, then I don't see much hope for improvement.

One Local Council ( http://www.inverclyd...x...&catid=1342 ) is automatically giving blue badges to "old" people with no proof of walking difficulty required. Only proof of age is required. I believe this is institutional abuse of the system, and by an issuing authority. Having issued these un-necessary badges, they can then be used anywhere in the country, and also in Europe!

[silone74]

That just takes the p@ss i can see your point on the people seeing the blue badge holders walking round the super market so we should be able to park there attitude,but the giving the badge out like that is just out of order.
I am going to see what the situation is in my home town for issuing the badge mine is due for renewel in 2 months i am just going to roll up with no proof of being disabled see what happens.




Si

[graphic]

Fluffie, on Jan 20 2009, 10:05 PM, said:

OMG I cant belive you.You scratched someone's car and you felt justified in doing this a few times for good measure.You have caused criminal damage which is breaking the law.You just made yourself worse than someone who parks in a disabled bay who's not got a blue badge.Parking in a disabled bay in Tesco's when your not is not breaking the law but you did.Tesco's is a private car park and therefore not subject to the laws, maybe you should look that up.Wonder how many more peoplelike you vandalize to get your own back.Disgusting.Seems to me your the idiot

If you're still here Fluffie you might consider the thought that although causing criminal damage is breaking a law, showing a little consideration to others isn't and shouldn't be subject to any law. Therefore everyone is able excercise it freely with no constraints.

Sometimes people's actions within the law can be worse than those outside the law.

If i understand you properly, you believe that someone who costs someone money because they've scratched their car is obviously a worse person than the inconsiderate, unthinking wasters that block people in, or out, of their cars or use disabled parking bays because they can't be bothered to walk. Your reaction to the original post seems to imply that it's the fact that someone's broken a law that horrifies you. If this is so and if parking in disabled bays without a permit was made a criminal law, am i correct in thinking that you'd be just at horrified at someone abusing that law? If so, then maybe it's about time it was made law.


I agree with wales1 and silone74 about different coloured parking areas and suggested it to my local authority, even suggesting they place special wheelchair spaces behind the blue spaces. No response, as expected. The thought that any authority should be issuing permits on the basis of age with no proof of disability just goes to show with what little respect the scheme is viewed.

I appreciate that many health problems aren't visible etc., but I think the best way out of the blue badge mess is to restrict the issue of new badges to those in receipt of a disability living allowance for mobility or, if they are older than the age at which DLA would be granted, they should should at least meet the medical criteria required for the award. That way I'm sure 80% of badges would disappear over time.

As you can probably guess, not being able to find an accessible parking spot because they're being used by people who don't need them is one of my little peeves.

I also believe that scribbler should be given exemption from any new regulations and be given a blue badge for life because his PA's are so attractive.

[DJ1]

The whole parking thing has come up with me numerous times and as for challenging people, I don’t do it anymore as I have been threatened too many time. I just don’t do it anymore. As much as I would like to I would also like to see my son grow up so I don’t get involved.
I know there are people who do require being near the door as they either can’t walk great distances but personally I don’t need to be near the door of the supermarket or any other building for that matter.

I suggested to one company that they build wheelchair accessible spaces at the rear of their car park but put a small shelter over it. I would be happy to use these spaces and they do not need to be near the door. I am able to get to the door of the store pretty quickly so this would suit me and a lot of people better.

I bet if this was the case these spaces would not be abused by people as they want to be right at the door.
I have suggested this to numerous companies but they have not done it so I can take it from that, they do not like this suggestion.

What do you guys think about this as an alternative.

[silone74]

I would have no problems using a bay like that but some just cant and do need to be near the door i just think tougher action is needed to desuade the abusers and keep the bays clear.




Si

[gsp23]

DJ1, on Jan 27 2009, 08:47 AM, said:

The whole parking thing has come up with me numerous times and as for challenging people, I don’t do it anymore as I have been threatened too many time. I just don’t do it anymore. As much as I would like to I would also like to see my son grow up so I don’t get involved.
I know there are people who do require being near the door as they either can’t walk great distances but personally I don’t need to be near the door of the supermarket or any other building for that matter.

I suggested to one company that they build wheelchair accessible spaces at the rear of their car park but put a small shelter over it. I would be happy to use these spaces and they do not need to be near the door. I am able to get to the door of the store pretty quickly so this would suit me and a lot of people better.

I bet if this was the case these spaces would not be abused by people as they want to be right at the door.
I have suggested this to numerous companies but they have not done it so I can take it from that, they do not like this suggestion.

What do you guys think about this as an alternative.

While I dont mind parking a ways away from the door (other than in the Winters when lots are not yet plowed and difficult to maneuver) I believe the risk factor in that is higher than places want to take. The risk factor I am referring to is the fact that someone in a chair is comparable height to a child and anyone who uses further back spots know, people just cant see you expecially if they are in a truck, van or suv. I believe legally speaking places would be hesitant because they would fear someone being hit as a driver didnt see them, then the store gets sued cause they had those spots in the back and put the people at risk.... now I am not a person who believe in suing for every last thing just a sign of the times of what I could see comming from some people.

[gsp23]

Here in the states, the problem isnt so much people parking without having the permit but is more so doctors than anything. Yes there are the occasional people who are "just going to be a minute" but the vast majority of them have permits. Some will use other peoples permits such as a spouse, child, parent or grandparents when they are not in the vehicle but the majority of the offenders actually have a valid permit that was issued to them. I know this because i know of 3 people that hav permits and do NOT need them. The doctors pretty much give them out to anybody who asks for one and even people who only need it temporarily like a 3-6 month permit following accident, surgery, etc get permanent ones (6yr). I made this complaint to my doctor at one point and he said that yes he was aware of the problem and the majority of doctors he spoke with always issued permanent permits to anyone who asked so they didnt have to go through the hassle of possibly not issuing long enough. So if a doctor anticipates that a patient only needs a 3 month permit during a recoovery phase and the patient really needs a 6 month permit, then at 3 months time the doctor has to fill out net paperwork to extend the permit and the patient has to go through the "hassle" of picking up a new one. So... most just go with the permanent ones right off the bat so anyone who complains about any ailment for the most part and requsts a permit will get one and will have one for 6yrs! Hence the hugh problem here in the states.

The DNR on the other hand is very strict in my state for issuing permits (hunt from a motorized vehicle) and includes first a parking permit from the state and then a 30 min interview process. If you can stand next to your vehicle without assistance you will not get one from the DNR. Just wish the DOT (Dept of Transportation) was as strict.

[edlee]

I like DJ's idea and have suggested the same in other threads,,, but,, as GSP23 mentions,,, it would have the rest of the nearby spots, filled with lawyers, waiting for an accident.

It always comes back to personal integrity,,,, if those, given permanet cards, stopped using them when they no longer needed them,,, and if other members of their families would stop using them when alone,,, and if we who need them would refrain from parking on the yellow lines because all the spots are filled,,,, and if we, who have then legally, would stop using them while waiting for our unijured spouses,,,,,,,

Whole lot of ifs,, aren't there??? I have to admit to the last,,, on occasion,,, but always with trepidation,,, worrying that someone else might need the spot.. If she's not out in five minutes I can't stand it, and have to move.

So it's not intent, usually,,, simply human nature to rationalize that what one is doing isn't that bad.

I've also forgotten to put my placard up on occasion,,, so if I forget,, and subsequently see someone in a chair scratching my car,,,,, well,, I probably won't shoot you,,, but I can promise you won't roll too far when I'm done slashing your tires. I don't get mad,,, I get even...
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