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#1 Apparelyzed

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 10:37 AM

Carers 'losing out' as wages rise
By Paul Lewis
BBC Radio 4's Money Box

Thousands of carers have ended up worse off after a rise in the minimum wage last October, support groups say.

The extra money has taken them above the threshold for claiming Carer's Allowance, which is worth £46 a week.

But if the people affected cut their weekly hours to under 16 to take them back under the threshold, they would then lose out on tax credits.

Support groups want the government to end what they say is a "catch-22 situation" but so far it has refused.

Sarah lives in Liverpool and cares for her elderly mother as well as looking after her own 14-year-old son and working in the local chemist.

She told BBC Radio 4's Money Box about the nasty shock when her wages went up.

"I work 16 hours a week and earn the minimum wage. But when that went up to £5.35 an hour I was no longer entitled to claim the Carer's Allowance. I was £1.60 over the threshold," she said.

To get Carer's Allowance your wages have to be less than £84 a week.

And the small rise in her weekly pay took her above that threshold meaning she lost the whole of her Carer's Allowance - worth £46.95 a week.

'Catch 22'

If Sarah cut her hours to just 15 a week she would get back her Carer's Allowance.

But another anomaly means that would leave her even worse off.

"It's a catch-22 situation," she said.

"You can't work any longer because you're caring for somebody. And you can't work any less because if you're claiming tax credit you've got to work 16 hours a week."

Sarah's tax credit amounts to more than £100 a week.

Emily Holzhausen, head of policy at Carer's UK, confirmed that if Sarah cut her hours she would lose it.

"If you work 15 hours you don't get tax credits at all. So she has no option but to lose this Carer's Allowance," she said.

And Sarah said that has not been easy: "Just over £45 a week may not seem a lot to some people but I can't begin to tell you what a difference it makes and how miserable it's made us now it's been taken away."

Simple solution?

The problem affects many of the estimated 40,000 people who get Carer's Allowance from the Department for Work and Pensions and also work.

Ms Holzhausen said it shows a lack of joined up government: "One department has been working without talking to another department about what the knock-on effect would be.

"It's great that the minimum wage has gone up in October. But it's out-of-synch with benefit changes.

"The threshold will rise to £87 in April and Sarah will be able to claim Carer's Allowance again.

"Then in October if the minimum wage rises again she will lose it. And so on."

Ms Holzhausen hopes the recent launch of a £33m package of help for carers by Chancellor Gordon Brown and Minister for Care Services Ivan Lewis will trigger a further look at this expensive anomaly.

"The solution is simple," she said: "Change the time when you raise the earnings threshold for Carer's Allowance from April and synchronise it with the National Minimum Wage in October.

"If you did that we would solve it in one."

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:28 AM

I listened to the programme and it seems another example of non-joined up thinking by the government..

My solution would be to pay all carers the minimum wage.Afterall the requirement for being awarded carers allowance is that 35 hours a week are spent caring.

It's a shame that the disabled organisations and the trade unions don't get together and push for this.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 11:47 AM

View PostLoraB, on Feb 26 2007, 09:28 AM, said:

I listened to the programme and it seems another example of non-joined up thinking by the government..

My solution would be to pay all carers the minimum wage.Afterall the requirement for being awarded carers allowance is that 35 hours a week are spent caring.

It's a shame that the disabled organisations and the trade unions don't get together and push for this.

Yes 35 hours at £5.35 an hour would be fair - thats their own criteria - they set a minimum number of hours and a minimum wage - not the £1.30 they actually get at the moment! And thats at 35 minimum hours per week - many carers do a lot more than that.

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 02:19 AM

I'm not being insensitive when I say this but anyone affected by this change should just say to social services that they cannot afford to look after the person as a charity case. Then they social services will have to step in and take over the care that the person costing them alot more than £46 I would wager. The person involved should see the problem and be supportive, I know I would be in a similar situation if I ever needed looking after.

This seems like the government shooting themselves in the foot.

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 10:06 AM

View PostAdrian, on Mar 12 2007, 01:19 AM, said:

I'm not being insensitive when I say this but anyone affected by this change should just say to social services that they cannot afford to look after the person as a charity case. Then they social services will have to step in and take over the care that the person costing them alot more than £46 I would wager. The person involved should see the problem and be supportive, I know I would be in a similar situation if I ever needed looking after.

This seems like the government shooting themselves in the foot.

Unfortunately life doesn't quite work like that. I understand you are not trying to be insensitive and I'm not trying to be too blatent its the old tetra/para difference thing. To achieve a good quality of life for a tetra who actually needs 'care' is a major undertaking.

Social services erratic care v.s care from a loved one? There is no contest.

A husband/wife or a relative living with the disabled person can't get ILF money you see, and then theres always the £18k savings ceiling that knocks out ILF and even care from social services over most areas of the UK. New vans for tetras cost much more than that.

Governments from whatever party have been allowed to get away with it for so long, so they will just carry on.




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