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[T-Crip]

I recently went to a holistic doctor who is also an internal medicine doctor so she has her MD as well. She has reccomended a therapy called PK which is initialed after the doctor who has started the program. It is basicly a detox approach. She has also rec some progesterone therapy which best I can tell is to help the bones. It is all very expensive so I was wondering if anyone else has tried some alternative approaches and how did you fare?

[Simon]

Hi
What are the holistic approaches treating?
We are very into them - we a raw vegan diet (no meat, fish, dairy, or anything cooked), use aromatherapy oils to heal any sores, my with is trained in aromatherapy, reflexology, metamorphic technique.
Simon

[T-Crip]

Simon, on Jun 16 2007, 07:02 AM, said:

Hi
What are the holistic approaches treating?
We are very into them - we a raw vegan diet (no meat, fish, dairy, or anything cooked), use aromatherapy oils to heal any sores, my with is trained in aromatherapy, reflexology, metamorphic technique.
Simon

I know this might sound a little crazy but I went to see if there was anything I could do or supplement I could take that would help me heal better/faster? I am only 7 months post surgery and have continued progress but very slow so I want to optimize my bodies ability to heal. I am an L1 incomplete. The doc said in surgery no cord tear at all.

[Simon]

In which case you need to get on our raw vegan lifestyle which essentially means eating no meat, no dairy, no alcohol. Your best point of reference is the Hippocrates Heath Institute in Florida http://www.hippocratesinst.org/
You ought to go and stay there really to get all the analysis etc though its quite pricey. The lifestyle heals cancers, ms, many pyschiatric illnesses in fact not much it doesnt aid. It will certainly give your body optimum vitality to heal.

Simon

[itsjustme]

Hi Simon,

I was telling my daughter about your vegan lifestyle last night and she wondered what you ate in a typical day. Would you mind sharing?

I looked at the steamed broccoli and cauliflower, carrots, and baked potato on my plate and I wondered to myself why they just wouldn't satisfy me if they were raw because I love broccoli and cauliflower steamed and salted. Do you use salt? Sea salt?

I may be so naive but it seems like there is only so much stuff that you can eat as a raw vegan. I guess that you get fats from nuts. I'm fascinated.

[Simon]

itsjustme, on Jun 18 2007, 08:14 PM, said:

Hi Simon,

I was telling my daughter about your vegan lifestyle last night and she wondered what you ate in a typical day. Would you mind sharing?

I looked at the steamed broccoli and cauliflower, carrots, and baked potato on my plate and I wondered to myself why they just wouldn't satisfy me if they were raw because I love broccoli and cauliflower steamed and salted. Do you use salt? Sea salt?

I may be so naive but it seems like there is only so much stuff that you can eat as a raw vegan. I guess that you get fats from nuts. I'm fascinated.

The lifestyle is quite simple in approach. 3 x 350-4500ml green drink each day (drink made of juiced greens of your choice and sprouted pea greens and sunflowers), 2 x 60ml of wheatgrass, as neithr of us are health challenged (ill from a cancer etc) we can have cooked alkaline grain for breakfast (usually millet or quinoa), then lunch is a salad with sprouted seeds like alfalfa and more pea greens and siunflowers (sprouted of course) and evening meal is similar to lunch but normally a different recipe. Essentially that's it.
The premise of the lifestyle is modern diets are both cooked and acidic and this causes most or all modern diseases.
Meat - acidic, full of parasites, causes heart disease and corotted arteries, cooking it makes it even worse.
Animal fats - such as milk, eggs, cheese etc - acidic, causes heart disease etc and crucially the human body is not designed to digest animal fats. Milk also causes osteoposis as it puts the system under so much strain trying to digest it that the calcium in our bones is taken to break it down.
Sugar - both refined and naturally occuring sugars (sucrose, fructose, lactose etc) from fruits and such are another major cause of common diseases.
Salt - definitely not, though seaweed like dulse is a major par of the diet as it is radiation neutralising and contains major nutrients and tastes of salt!

Believe me you are far better off eating the greens uncooked as cooking kills essential enzymes in them which aid digestion. Plus you dont kill off the nutrients either (steaming still does this).
You should also watch the food combinations - starch and protein do not mix as rthey require different digestive enzymes to be broken down, these enzymes cannot co-exist in the gut.

Its amazing how the body adjusts I thought I'd hate it but know, now some 6 months in I love the diet, eating coked food when out (even veggie) is just not the same as its lifeless.
As an example, my bowel routine has always been prety good - every other day, no laxatives, one glycerine suppo and I went 80% of time inside an hour. Now, am going every day, no laxative (should think not with all the greens!), one glycerine suppo, and 95% of time I go inside 15 mins. The amount I do is way more than previously to because there is no fatty meat or other animal fat clogging the bowel.

Hope this helps.
Simon

Edited by Simon, 19 June 2007 - 04:17 PM.

[itsjustme]

My Dear Simon,

All I can say is that you are truly dedicated to eating to live rather than living to eat.

[Simon]

I assume you're quoting Hippocrates!
Its actually easier than it seems switching, don't miss much at all.
When you see/hear of the number of people they cure (bad word really) you dont need much incentive knowing what cooked foods and animal products etc do to you.

[tac]

There was an article here in Australia about a woman (Ralda James) whose daughter Abbie had measles encephalitis and suffered damage to myelin, causing brain damage. Her mum fed her a diet high in full fat dairy and sialic acid - which can be found in raw organic eggs and whey protein isolate or concentrate (not whey protein or whey powder) and beer or brewing yeast, and avoiding giving her any diet drinks or dark soft drinks. And now she is much better. You can get the whey protein isolate from health food store and stores that sell muscles building supplements. Apparently Dr Rick McLean from the Sydney University Brain and Mind Research Department was going to follow it up, but I haven't managed to find anything about it. Wikipedia has some links. Not sure if this helps?

[ice2]

tac, on Jun 25 2007, 09:26 AM, said:

There was an article here in Australia about a woman (Ralda James) whose daughter Abbie had measles encephalitis and suffered damage to myelin, causing brain damage. Her mum fed her a diet high in full fat dairy and sialic acid - which can be found in raw organic eggs and whey protein isolate or concentrate (not whey protein or whey powder) and beer or brewing yeast, and avoiding giving her any diet drinks or dark soft drinks. And now she is much better. You can get the whey protein isolate from health food store and stores that sell muscles building supplements. Apparently Dr Rick McLean from the Sydney University Brain and Mind Research Department was going to follow it up, but I haven't managed to find anything about it. Wikipedia has some links. Not sure if this helps?

I seen Abbie when she could not talk and had several other problems, then about 12 months later I saw Abbie again. She was talking and the other problems were improving. The Doctors had said she would never speak, or attend school. Now Abbie is no different from other children her age.
The MRI confirmed the myelin had been repaired. Ralda is in contact with the Federal Health Dept. in Australia. What Ralda has done worked very well and fast.

[hockeydahc]

for teh past few months, I have been trying to switch to an all organic diet. Is there a good search site that I can search for a holistic GP? I would think it difficult to find a holistic doc knowledgeable of SCI.

first and foremost i have mitral valve prolapse, a common and minor heart affliction. I would liek to see what I can do to treat that without drugs/meds. there is also rumor to be treatments for more energy, increased strength, and so on incl. ED

[T-Crip]

hockeydahc, on Oct 10 2007, 10:52 PM, said:

for teh past few months, I have been trying to switch to an all organic diet. Is there a good search site that I can search for a holistic GP? I would think it difficult to find a holistic doc knowledgeable of SCI.

first and foremost i have mitral valve prolapse, a common and minor heart affliction. I would liek to see what I can do to treat that without drugs/meds. there is also rumor to be treatments for more energy, increased strength, and so on incl. ED

Yeah sadly I think it IS difficult to find one that is into SCI. I live in FL and in my areas I had a hard enough time finding a holistic doc so....I dunno. Seems like word of mouth is best there. Go to your local whole foods store or organic grocery store or natural store or herb store...something along those lines and ask them if they have someone they reccommend. That should give you a good place to start.

[hockeydahc]

but I don't know where those places are either!

[Katherine]

can anyone tell me why it isn't good to drink wine? I would not like to give up my wine in my diet.

[BlueLinen]

Katherine, on Oct 31 2007, 10:19 AM, said:

can anyone tell me why it isn't good to drink wine? I would not like to give up my wine in my diet.

Hello

I am new at this, but while I was researching a quote tonight, I came across this site and decided to register b/c I've been interested in health & nutrition since I was a teen. I was a wife to a paraplegic who had a T-11 injury.

Some of the research I've been doing shows in Dr. Hulda Clark's book "A Cure for All Diseases", on page 386, "Combining alcohol with ergot is more toxic than either is alone. Alcohol seems to drive the toxin deeper into your tissues. I have found ergot and aflatoxin in beer and wine! Perhaps some of the bizarre behavior and speech of intoxication is really due to the mold-alcohol combination."

Since you are in FL, you might want to look up Dr. Don Colbert. He is in the Orlando area. He may or may not be able to help you since you do have an SCI, but he is definitely into nutrition, etc. If he can't help you, he may be able to recommend someone who can.

Aother thing you may want to consider is going to an Iridologist. There is one here in TN who reads the eyes, and recommends herbs to detoxify the body. Both the local guy & Dr Hulda Clark say that if you remove the parasites and pollutants from the body, then the body can heal itself.

You may want to get Dr. Clark's book in addition to trying to find someone in FL who can help you.

Wish you the best in your quest.

[T-Crip]

BlueLinen, on Nov 1 2007, 09:26 PM, said:

Katherine, on Oct 31 2007, 10:19 AM, said:

can anyone tell me why it isn't good to drink wine? I would not like to give up my wine in my diet.

Hello

I am new at this, but while I was researching a quote tonight, I came across this site and decided to register b/c I've been interested in health & nutrition since I was a teen. I was a wife to a paraplegic who had a T-11 injury.

Some of the research I've been doing shows in Dr. Hulda Clark's book "A Cure for All Diseases", on page 386, "Combining alcohol with ergot is more toxic than either is alone. Alcohol seems to drive the toxin deeper into your tissues. I have found ergot and aflatoxin in beer and wine! Perhaps some of the bizarre behavior and speech of intoxication is really due to the mold-alcohol combination."

Since you are in FL, you might want to look up Dr. Don Colbert. He is in the Orlando area. He may or may not be able to help you since you do have an SCI, but he is definitely into nutrition, etc. If he can't help you, he may be able to recommend someone who can.

Aother thing you may want to consider is going to an Iridologist. There is one here in TN who reads the eyes, and recommends herbs to detoxify the body. Both the local guy & Dr Hulda Clark say that if you remove the parasites and pollutants from the body, then the body can heal itself.

You may want to get Dr. Clark's book in addition to trying to find someone in FL who can help you.

Wish you the best in your quest.

Thank you so very much!! I will!!!