[Apparelyzed]

Hi Rick,

Yes, this is quite possible. It sounds as though the injury has only affected the motor pathways of the spinal cord and left the sensory pathways relatively untouched.

I know this because I am a C5/6 Quadriplegic, with complete motor paralysis, however, I have partial sensation throughout the whole of my body. When I say partial, I mean I can feel touch, but not temperature or light pain.

For more information on different types of paralysis, you can visit one of my pages which may explain a little clearer.

http://www.apparelyz.../paralysis.html

Regards

Simon

[livestrong]

kekov, on Jan 6 2005, 03:16 AM, said:

I am a C6 complete quadraplegic. I have a C6 incomplete friend that has full sensation throughout his body. I also played quad rugby with a C7 incomplete that after we finished the game, he could get up and walk away. His walking wasn't as fluid as an AB, but better than being a complete quad.

Hello.Iam a t12/l1 and Iam barley walking but walking.I use underarm cructhes and braces.I have a tiny bit of sesation.With pt and a whole lot f strnght it possble

[Gary Anderson]

Hi Rick - no they are not faking.

Injuries are split into two categories - complete and incomplete. Incomplete usualy find they can have some mobility or a lot of mobility depending on how badly they are injured.

Myself, I am classified "incomplete paraplagic" even although I dont use a chair and despite the fact my cord is totally undamaged. The problem occurred to the nerves that leave the cord and this caused what you are talking about - my legs could move quite freely but my brain forgot to tell my legs how to work.

It took a lot of physio (it still does), however, I am now able to get around on 2 walking sticks. Due to the nature of my injury, it took a few years for the nerves that were damaged/bruised to heal, however, when they did more and more function came back.

Hope this is of help and good luck with the crutches. If you can manage it - go for it - as it is better to have some mobility than none at all.

[wheeliebear75]

I'm L2 incomplete. I can walk for abo 50-100ft with forearm crutches. for me my legs always feel like they are asleep. So I use a Quickie XTR for anything longer. So it could be possible. But no 2 people are alike.....in this aswell. I've had people ask "well if you can do it for 100ft why cant you do it longer?" Um I realy dont know. I've tried (an failed misserably) to keep going & the legs just give out & will not do anymore. For me I've got more damage on the left side than the right & it's all a matter of where the damage is.

bottom line incomplete paras can sometimes walk.

hope this helps.....sorry if it doesn't.

[bensinjury]

My son is a L2 incomplete and at this time we are 6 months out from the accident date and he is now walking with no help of any kind. he has a slight limp, that gets worse if he gets fatigued. He has worked very hard to get to this point, has complete bowel function but the bladder not doing it's thing (yet) we stay hopeful that he will regain that...anyway he is walking and trying to get back to work, so i know that you can be a para and able to walk...Everyone is different. Good Luck to all!

[justin]

Very happy on your son hope gets the annoying bldder controlled. Im a t10-t11 complete i have actully felt some touches in my legs along with pain. It a low chance of me filling anything. I infact canot walk and will not attempt to. Cause yea mom and dad will be hearing there name to come pick me off the ground.

[Tarkus]

I don't think they are faking it. Lets face it we are talking about being able the walk and choosing not to, very, very rare.

I'm also an incomplete "walkie". I can get around the house with a cane, it ain't pretty but it's walking. For longer distances I use a Segway as sitting is one of the most painful things I can do.

I was with guys in PT with the same injuries and they could not stand but had the sensation.

It's always different.........that's the insidious part of SCI, it varies from person to person.
My biggest problems were the things I had zero control of for a long time, B & B.

Be Big,
Alan

[otaT11]

Rick Fuchs, on Jul 1 2004, 12:32 AM, said:

I am a T11 Paraplegic since 1997. I am wheelchair bound, and also try to use Canadian Forearm Crutches in small areas. Since my accident, I have run into several "Paraplegics" in rehabilitation that say they have feelings in their legs, but can't walk, and are using wheelchairs to move around. Is this possible, or are they faking?

Wolfgang
http://maxpages.com/paraplegic

Hey, Rick I came across you case with a google search of a project that I am working on. I am a student (occupational Theapy) with a case study of a client with T11 SCI (newly injuried) I have been searching for someone in this site with a similar injury to ask a few questions regarding how well they maneuver themselves at home, with transfers, bathing and dressing if you are interested in helping please log in to the chat room Nov 30,09 8:00 pm. I really hope from the bottom of my heart that you are doing much better now....Lori

[MxDisasterGrl]

I'm a T12 incomplete. I can feel touch, some temp., and some pain, but my right foot/leg mainly feels like it's on fire constantly. I picture it in my head as ton of electrical wires that have gone haywire and are flying around cut in half like crazy. I can walk w/ a walker, but i use my chair when i'm w/ others to be faster. Plus you can't do much w/ your hands if you're walking w/ a walker or crutches because your hands are too busy. So, you must use the chair when trying to get things done...

[Kwag_Myers]

T12 incomplete - yeah, I walk (mostly around the house) but use a chair to get around in public. For me, walking and standing are both painful and exhausting. My feet are paralyzed (with the exception of my toes) and balance is very difficult. Also, I'm susceptible to pressure sores on my heals. So if I want to get out and go to the store, post office, etc. I use my chair. It's faster and a whole lot less work.

[qbounce]

otaT11, on Nov 29 2009, 06:46 PM, said:

Rick Fuchs, on Jul 1 2004, 12:32 AM, said:

I am a T11 Paraplegic since 1997. I am wheelchair bound, and also try to use Canadian Forearm Crutches in small areas. Since my accident, I have run into several "Paraplegics" in rehabilitation that say they have feelings in their legs, but can't walk, and are using wheelchairs to move around. Is this possible, or are they faking?

Wolfgang
http://maxpages.com/paraplegic

Hey, Rick I came across you case with a google search of a project that I am working on. I am a student (occupational Theapy) with a case study of a client with T11 SCI (newly injuried) I have been searching for someone in this site with a similar injury to ask a few questions regarding how well they maneuver themselves at home, with transfers, bathing and dressing if you are interested in helping please log in to the chat room Nov 30,09 8:00 pm. I really hope from the bottom of my heart that you are doing much better now....Lori

Ota,
Don't count on Rick coming to chat. His post was 5 years ago . . . just letting you know

[Kwag_Myers]

qbounce, on Nov 30 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

Ota,
Don't count on Rick coming to chat. His post was 5 years ago . . . just letting you know

[transverse100]

Rick Fuchs, on Jul 1 2004, 03:32 AM, said:

I am a T11 Paraplegic since 1997. I am wheelchair bound, and also try to use Canadian Forearm Crutches in small areas. Since my accident, I have run into several "Paraplegics" in rehabilitation that say they have feelings in their legs, but can't walk, and are using wheelchairs to move around. Is this possible, or are they faking?

Wolfgang
http://maxpages.com/paraplegic

Wolfgang; I am a T10 incomplete of 28 years, my sensations are not as they were before the injury thats for sure. I was at a point where a physical therapist could run a saftey pin down my leg and draw blood; but it isn't like that any more; she was an idiot! I was a walker or ambulated with HKAFOs for about 10 years doing a swing through, but at 6'5" tall; my shoulders deceided it was enough. Our adopted daughter with Spina Bifida had her cord tied off at the age of 7 at about L2 and has sporadic feelings below that point; she walks with HKAFOs for therapy using the swing through. I guess the easy,way of saying this is; a good share of the people that contracted polio have feeling, but no or limited motor function; the "Docs" want you to believe that everyone is wired the same exact way, but I beg to differ. Some how I managed to contract a case of Transverse Myelitis a year ago, which took its toll on the rest of my body, knowone knew what it was because one of the first symptoms is loss of motor function in the legs; mine were already dead.

[greybeard]

transverse100, on Jan 26 2010, 10:05 PM, said:

Rick Fuchs, on Jul 1 2004, 03:32 AM, said:

I am a T11 Paraplegic since 1997. I am wheelchair bound, and also try to use Canadian Forearm Crutches in small areas. Since my accident, I have run into several "Paraplegics" in rehabilitation that say they have feelings in their legs, but can't walk, and are using wheelchairs to move around. Is this possible, or are they faking?

Wolfgang
http://maxpages.com/paraplegic

Wolfgang; I am a T10 incomplete of 28 years, my sensations are not as they were before the injury thats for sure. I was at a point where a physical therapist could run a saftey pin down my leg and draw blood; but it isn't like that any more; she was an idiot! I was a walker or ambulated with HKAFOs for about 10 years doing a swing through, but at 6'5" tall; my shoulders deceided it was enough. Our adopted daughter with Spina Bifida had her cord tied off at the age of 7 at about L2 and has sporadic feelings below that point; she walks with HKAFOs for therapy using the swing through. I guess the easy,way of saying this is; a good share of the people that contracted polio have feeling, but no or limited motor function; the "Docs" want you to believe that everyone is wired the same exact way, but I beg to differ. Some how I managed to contract a case of Transverse Myelitis a year ago, which took its toll on the rest of my body, knowone knew what it was because one of the first symptoms is loss of motor function in the legs; mine were already dead.

transverse100, you obviously failed to notice that you are replying to a five year old message.

[transverse100]

greybeard, on Jan 26 2010, 06:20 PM, said:

transverse100, on Jan 26 2010, 10:05 PM, said:

Rick Fuchs, on Jul 1 2004, 03:32 AM, said:

I am a T11 Paraplegic since 1997. I am wheelchair bound, and also try to use Canadian Forearm Crutches in small areas. Since my accident, I have run into several "Paraplegics" in rehabilitation that say they have feelings in their legs, but can't walk, and are using wheelchairs to move around. Is this possible, or are they faking?

Wolfgang
http://maxpages.com/paraplegic

Wolfgang; I am a T10 incomplete of 28 years, my sensations are not as they were before the injury thats for sure. I was at a point where a physical therapist could run a saftey pin down my leg and draw blood; but it isn't like that any more; she was an idiot! I was a walker or ambulated with HKAFOs for about 10 years doing a swing through, but at 6'5" tall; my shoulders deceided it was enough. Our adopted daughter with Spina Bifida had her cord tied off at the age of 7 at about L2 and has sporadic feelings below that point; she walks with HKAFOs for therapy using the swing through. I guess the easy,way of saying this is; a good share of the people that contracted polio have feeling, but no or limited motor function; the "Docs" want you to believe that everyone is wired the same exact way, but I beg to differ. Some how I managed to contract a case of Transverse Myelitis a year ago, which took its toll on the rest of my body, knowone knew what it was because one of the first symptoms is loss of motor function in the legs; mine were already dead.

transverse100, you obviously failed to notice that you are replying to a five year old message.

Didn't appear that way on the New Posts section; but it could be helpful to others that might read it such as yourself. It obviously didn't go unread for long...

[McTavish]

Hi Rick,
I am a T4 incomplete and you are describing me to a T. I wish I was faking it.