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[itsjustme]

Since this is a worldwide forum, and since we, the people of the U.S. who don't support the decisions of the President, are judged by the powers that be... I didn't vote for George W. Bush... and I support the following views expressed in this commentary...

Keith Oberman Commentary 03/07/2007

[nomis]

itsjustme, on Jul 6 2007, 11:13 AM, said:

Since this is a worldwide forum, and since we, the people of the U.S. who don't support the decisions of the President, are judged by the powers that be... I didn't vote for George W. Bush... and I support the following views expressed in this commentary...

Keith Oberman Commentary 03/07/2007

That's encouraging that at least one person in the USA didn't vote for Bush and that media commentators like Oberman are now strongly expressing their views.

But where was the US media in the early days of the Iraq invasion? USA was the model of democracy that most of the western world aspired to. But automatically in unison it's news media closed down honest coverage of the invasion and removed any hint of criticism of the President.

The rest of the world continued to get a good news service but the USA was shut out by its own media. Fox News turned into a ridiculous proBush fabrication. I, and I'm sure many many others, will never again have the same respect for the American media. It was gutless and responsible for 5 to 6 years of American ignorance.

As for us in the world of SCI, Bush is now personally responsible for the delays to medical research that may lead to recovery rather than paralysis. How did you let this monster into power over you?

[sfultong]

I think that any sufficiently large institution (government, corporation, etc) will attract exactly the kinds of people you don't want running it. Really, the only collective that doesn't suffer from institutional problems is the public sentiment. And that can always be manipulated with a consolidated media. Thank goodness for the internet... I hope people will look to it as a viable alternative to mainstream news sources, because that's the only way it'll start becoming a viable alternative.

I think our country would be much better if it was broken up into smaller countries. Too bad the feds don't look kindly on secession.

Oh, and I almost forgot... I think voting is sham, especially the winner-takes-all system that the U.S. has.

Edited by sfultong, 06 July 2007 - 01:17 AM.

[Texaswheelz]

If it wsa the winner take all system then Bush wouldn't have won it in 2k. I agree with what was said about our Media, and i personally don't watch any national media, they all have their agenda, even Keith Oberman and for the most part the guys in the media these days try to make as much news as they do report it so that more people will tune into them. of course Fox news is the worse of them all IMHO. I learn more from Jon Stewart then i do any one else on TV these days and he's a comedian.

[nomis]

Texaswheelz, on Jul 7 2007, 09:48 AM, said:

I learn more from Jon Stewart then i do any one else on TV these days and he's a comedian.

ditto

[edlee]

Perhaps I'm wrong, and please correct me if it is so, but I believe that in both of the last two presidential elections the popular vote didn't match the outcome of the electorial vote.

Either way, it is less the popularity than the money totals that ultimately place someone in the White House. If you follow the money you can usually pick the winner.

Wouldn't it be lovely to go back to the system that spawned the electorial college. Back to electing someone you trusted to make a wise decision, then letting him pick the winner. Considering the lack of knowledge that appears to be prevalent today, concerning candidates and their positions, it would seem to be a better way.

But, alas, what would be done with all the lobbyists, billboards, tv time, newspaper space.

Better still, we already have people we have selected as wise enough to make that kind of decision. They are in our state legisatures. Close enough for us to actually know them or at least know someone who does.

Doesn't matter anyway. Too much money is involved in the present system for any change to take place.

We thought the Republicans didn't have a chance , but now the front runners for the Democrats are a woman and a black man. Both would be firsts. What are the odds?
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[RaginTurtleHead]

I will never vote for a president as long as there is an electoral college.

Dump that stupid system and I will cast my vote every 4 years....