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#1 User is offline   Wheelie-Bar 

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 08:51 PM

EVERYONE on here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - OPERATION -
you have got to look up Dr. Scott Falci in Craig Hospital in (Denver Co.)
NO JOKE
I used to have a band of hypersensitivity that burned and also lower STABBING back pain!!! 2 years of lots of Vicoden :yahoo:
I loooked high and low from San Diego and all over and I finally found a cure!
you can look up this operation on the Craig Hospital its called CA DREZ
your search ENDS HERE NOW!
I made a FULL recovery and live pain free
everyday now!!!
I dont care who you are if you or anyone you know coulod use this feel free to call me anytime

I will help you as much as I can
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Posted 03 August 2007 - 10:23 PM

am I the only one who had to do this ?
theres gotta be people out there that have pain so bad it makes
you not wanna live.....
I used to be this way, BEST surgery EVER!!!
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Posted 04 August 2007 - 12:33 AM

Once I healed from my initial surgery, I was pain free. I've never had a problem, so i didnt have anything to add.

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Posted 04 August 2007 - 01:15 AM

View Posthockeydahc, on Aug 4 2007, 12:33 AM, said:

Once I healed from my initial surgery, I was pain free. I've never had a problem, so i didnt have anything to add.


your lucky!
pain takes over your whole life
so do drugs

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Posted 04 August 2007 - 03:38 AM

I probably take it for granted sometimes because I never had much from the start.

glad you're pain free now.
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Posted 04 August 2007 - 04:23 AM

View PostWheelie-Bar, on Jul 29 2007, 08:51 PM, said:

EVERYONE on here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - OPERATION -
you have got to look up Dr. Scott Falci in Craig Hospital in (Denver Co.)
NO JOKE
I used to have a band of hypersensitivity that burned and also lower STABBING back pain!!! 2 years of lots of Vicoden :H2kOther (26):
I loooked high and low from San Diego and all over and I finally found a cure!
you can look up this operation on the Craig Hospital its called CA DREZ
your search ENDS HERE NOW!
I made a FULL recovery and live pain free
everyday now!!!
I dont care who you are if you or anyone you know coulod use this feel free to call me anytime

I will help you as much as I can
Kyle- 719-388-3348


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well theres your problem you have staples in your back. lol glad yo here it worked
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Posted 04 August 2007 - 05:04 AM

I took 'em out a little early!
It hurt a little at first, but it feels SO good about half
way threw!!
5 times better than a tattoo!!!
Endorphin Rush!!!!!!!!

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Posted 06 August 2007 - 06:08 PM

I am glad you had great results. I contacted his Nurse Practitioner at Craig. There are some downsides for incompletes. You could have loss of motor, return of greater pain, and no help with pain control. Please share a little more of your deficits pre-procedure. I am inteested in the procedure but too scared to have it done. The nurse told me that I would not be a good candidate because of my motor function. I am an incomplete but retained bowel, bladder, and limited sexual funtion.
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Posted 06 August 2007 - 07:02 PM

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Clinical Results of Radiofrequency Dorsal Root Entry Zone Coagulation for Paraplegic Pain

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 01:33 AM

View Postmotospine, on Aug 6 2007, 06:08 PM, said:

I am glad you had great results. I contacted his Nurse Practitioner at Craig. There are some downsides for incompletes. You could have loss of motor, return of greater pain, and no help with pain control. Please share a little more of your deficits pre-procedure. I am inteested in the procedure but too scared to have it done. The nurse told me that I would not be a good candidate because of my motor function. I am an incomplete but retained bowel, bladder, and limited sexual funtion.



Well YES-
its not for EVERYONE IN PAIN
this is true, but if there is anyone out there like me
that live in so much pain, that they don't want to live!
this procedure could be
LIFE CHANGING
I am completely off ALL pain meds,
after 2 years of (12) Vicoden pills a day!
I CAN NOT thank Dr. Scott Falci and his nurse Charlet ENOUGH!!!!!!!


((((((((((( THEY SAVED MY LIFE )))))))))))))))
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 04:29 AM

I was told as an incomplete I essentially had 30/30/30 odds with any operation; even chances of making it better, having no significant change, and the dreaded 1/3 who have increased pain of greater loss of function or sense of touch. The fact that I'm diabetic would make those odds of bad outcome a bit higher; I don't heal fast or well and I'm very prone to infections. Call me chicken or just afraid to play the odds. B) I just like it when the stakes aren't so high. I have feeling as of now.....but if a scalpel went to deep or swelling or what ever made my sense of feeling go away.....I could REALLY be subject to problems with pressure sores!
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 11:59 PM

Sounds like it's more a matter of the degree of pain. If you need 12 vicaden a day to get by, the risks wouldn't sound as great.

For myself, the pain is a constant, but my attention to it isn't. Sometimes I don't notice it at all until I slow down, then I realize that it's still there.

I read a bit about the procedure on the hospital website. It sounds like a godsend for those who need it badly, but I, personly, haven't gotten to that point,,,,,yet.

I really glad to hear that it worked so well for you.
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Posted 09 August 2007 - 09:14 PM

I would like to make a "Young Guns" reference.

Wheelie-bar, if I had that much vitamin-V I would be in the "Spirit World."
My pain is at the level you speak of. I just made the decision to go long term disability with my company. My docs would offer any drugs if I agreed. Methadone being the hottest topic with them. I would not like to have that monkey on my back, besides the chair couldnt take the weight. Narcotics are not the ticket for me. They affect the brain and not the pain.

The decision to have the DREZ procedure was great. I am jelous of your results. I hope I am allowed that petty human emotion here.
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Posted 10 August 2007 - 03:55 AM

View Postmotospine, on Aug 9 2007, 09:14 PM, said:

I would like to make a "Young Guns" reference.

Wheelie-bar, if I had that much vitamin-V I would be in the "Spirit World."
My pain is at the level you speak of. I just made the decision to go long term disability with my company. My docs would offer any drugs if I agreed. Methadone being the hottest topic with them. I would not like to have that monkey on my back, besides the chair couldnt take the weight. Narcotics are not the ticket for me. They affect the brain and not the pain.

The decision to have the DREZ procedure was great. I am jelous of your results. I hope I am allowed that petty human emotion here.



Moto crash?
im guessing?
Fock DRUGS ! they take over your life!!
If you got pain, like I do, get after that surgery!!
I can help you out any time!
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 11:52 PM

As I mentioned before. I am an incomplete and the odds are not stacked in my favor. Charlete even agreed. I would have more to loose, higher risks, and possible to not help the pain at all.

I hope your wearing a helmet when driving that monster. Hit one goffer I mean golfer and youll flip.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 04:22 AM

I just wanted to clarify one key aspect of Wheelie-Bar's surgery. This surgery is CA-DREZ not RF-DREZ where the CA stands for computer-assisted. Here's an abstract from a presentation given at a 2002 ASIA conference. If you want to get technical look up Journal of Neurosurgery: Spine/Volume 97/September 2002;193-200. This surgery is definitely not for everyone (note the reference to deafferentiation pain) and has major risks (can move the level of injury upward). However as the data improves there is great promise for this surgery to resolve lower thoracic NP.

Surgical Treatment of Spinal Cord Injury (SCI) Pain Using A New Technique of lntramedullary Electrical Analysis
S. Falci, MD; L. Best, PhD; D Lammertse, MD; and C Starnes, RN
Craig Hospital, Englewood, CO

Over the last 40 years, the literature reports the prevalence of severe or disabling chronic pain after spinal cord injury (SCI) to range from 18 to 63 percent. Surgical treatment in the dorsal root entry zone (DREZ) of the spinal cord to relieve these central deafferentation pains has historically resulted in modest outcomes. The literature suggests that approximately 50 to 100 percent of pain relief is experienced in approximately 50 percent of patients with severe or disabling chronic pain. A new surgical technique utilizing spontaneous intramedullary recordings as well as intramedullary recordings during transmission of stimuli in a C-fiber frequency to guide DREZ lesioning for these pains is reported. Thirty-six patients with SCI and intractable central deafferentation pains underwent DREZ radiofrequency heat lesioning betwen 1993-1998. In 11 of these patients, spontaneous intramedullary electrical recordings alone were used to guide DREZ lesioning; 63 percent of these patients achieved 100 percent pain relief and 82 percent achieved 50 to 100 percent relief, demonstrating significant improvement from the literature. In 25 patients, spontaneous intramedullary recordings were used in conjunction with recordings during C-fiber stimulus to guide DREZ lesioning. Eighty-four percent of these patients achieved 100 percent pain relief. In the last 10 of these patients, wherein more experience with this technique was gained, all achieved 100 percent pain relief. Pain severity was graded usinq a visual analogue or 10-point scale. Follow-up was by personal interview, telephone call and/or questionnaire, and ranged from three months to five years. This technique allowed for somatotopic mapping of the DREZ of the spinal cord with regard to generation of central deafferentation pain. In general, the L1 DREZ correlates with pain in the feet; the T11 and T12 DREZs with pain in the lower extremities; the T8, T9 and T10 DREZs with pain in the buttock, and DREZs more cephalad with pain in any regions more caudally. The anatomy of the sympathetic nervous system correlates well with such mapping, implicating its involvement.

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 05:41 PM

I have this Neuropsy which makes me wish i was dead sometimes. The pain has become so unbeararable i cringe,cry,scream,to the point i don't want to go on anymore. The 2400 MG of Neurontin daily,along with Lortabs has helped some. Using ice on my middle regions,elevating my feet and sleeping with my c-pap machine helps. Its like i have a cramp in my foot or its asleep or someone is pushing down on it or the pins and needles reference is applicable.It didn't start til after i got my foot wound last year which has healed. It normally is only in my feet and on one foot at a time.

I have a bullet against my aorta so operations aren't advised. If this is the same procedure i think it is,i''ll post an article. Its from work done over the last twenty years i believe,from what a specialist is doing at Duke Medical Center and there are risks.

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Posted 12 September 2007 - 06:17 PM

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View PostApparelyzed, on Aug 6 2007, 02:02 PM, said:

You may find this article interesting:

[b]Clinical Results of Radiofrequency Dorsal Root Entry Zone Coagulation for Paraplegic Pain


Download the pdf document below.

my pains come and go and have levels of intensity from bad to kill me please.When it gets really bad I hide from everyone (screaming, crying,twitching, and sometimes pissing and shiting,) it's kind of humiliating.meds and pot help make me not care as much but tha stabs continue every few seconds sometimes for days.Ithink I'm hooked on hydrocodi 10's they make me itch if I take 2 or more.
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Posted 13 September 2007 - 11:52 PM

I had CA DREZ surgery at Craig by Dr. Falci twice! April 2003 (unsuccessful) and a 2nd try in August 2003. (also unsuccessful). It's not pleasant, especially when it doesn't work. It's a long, drawn out operation and a long drawn out recovery. I'm inclined to believe that Dr. Falci's stated success rate of approx. 86% is wishful thinking. When I was in the hospital recovering from my first operation in April 2003, one of my nurses told me her fiance had Dr. Falci's DREZ surgery twice with no help. Small world. If anyone is contemplating having this done, please feel free to email me. I have lots of info. on the DREZ lesioning procedure. I wouldn't steer anyone away from trying it. It's really the only thing out there that actually eliminates the pain when it works. Pain management and pain elimination are as different as night and day. I'll take pain elimination every time. Best of luck to everyone...
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Posted 19 September 2007 - 06:19 PM

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View Postedlee, on Aug 7 2007, 07:59 PM, said:

Sounds like it's more a matter of the degree of pain. If you need 12 vicaden a day to get by, the risks wouldn't sound as great.

For myself, the pain is a constant, but my attention to it isn't. Sometimes I don't notice it at all until I slow down, then I realize that it's still there.

I read a bit about the procedure on the hospital website. It sounds like a godsend for those who need it badly, but I, personly, haven't gotten to that point,,,,,yet.

I really glad to hear that it worked so well for you.
ed

I am new to this list and I never had much pain untill about 11 years ago. I had a TBI with my spinal injury and I've had good luck with concentrating on other things and convincing myself of the power of aspirin and tylenol. About two years ago I tried a vicodin and the sweating stopped. The tension subsided and my concentration came back. I have to take two or three now to get up in the chair and two again to get back in the bed. It isn't that bad if I use glyco-lax to offset the fact that it slows the intestines to a near stop. If your getting a buzz, you're taking too much and please don't drive while taking it.
With that said, now I'm getting piercing headaches several times a day that don't seem to be related to blood pressure or to bowel or bladder content problems. The vicodin has no effect nor tylenol and concentration is impossible. It lasts anywhere from a few minutes to a half hour. I recently stopped taking Senna tablets because my urine was turning black. Is it possible there is withdrawal from Senna or are others having these fabulous headaches?
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