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#1 User is offline   Kev-O 

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 07:09 PM

ok im still new to this site and i just found this part of the board. i have posted this every were now but for those of you that have not seen it here is the link Lee Beaver If any one wants more info on lee and the video or want's to buy a kit email me and tell me. I bought a 2002 yamaha R1 and im in the middle of modifying it. kevo6767@yahoo.com
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Posted 03 August 2007 - 07:12 PM

Looks great. I think being a T2 para I would not have enough balance to ride a regular bike again - even with those amazing adaptations. I'd be fine going in a straight line but the first time I had to lean into a bend I would probably be off - AGAIN!
Pity there aren't any available in the UK to take on a test ride.
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Posted 03 August 2007 - 07:22 PM

View PostDeej, on Aug 3 2007, 07:12 PM, said:

Looks great. I think being a T2 para I would not have enough balance to ride a regular bike again - even with those amazing adaptations. I'd be fine going in a straight line but the first time I had to lean into a bend I would probably be off - AGAIN!
Pity there aren't any available in the UK to take on a test ride.

I know lee rides his every were i am a t-5 so i have no trunk control i would think you can still ride you just have to hold on all the time
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Posted 03 August 2007 - 11:38 PM

That is sweet! Thanks for the link. Been trying to figure out how to ride a Harley without falling into an unhappy lump at stop lights for quite awhile.

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Posted 04 August 2007 - 01:27 AM

View PostTim13, on Aug 3 2007, 11:38 PM, said:

That is sweet! Thanks for the link. Been trying to figure out how to ride a Harley without falling into an unhappy lump at stop lights for quite awhile.

Just tell me and i will talk to lee about it and see what he can do. I know he does sport bikes im not sure about Harley's but i dont see why not
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Post icon  Posted 12 August 2007 - 06:50 PM

Hey! Tell him there are more people interested!
Harley's an ideal bike for someone with sci; it's possible to fit a reverse gear!

BTW I tried a Gilera Fuoco a couple of weeks ago and found it too dodgy; it would have been too easy to drop and the consequences would have been gruesome.


There's more about this sort of thing on the NABD forum; lots of people there would be interested in seeing the Adaptive Motorcycles system over here!
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 08:13 PM

View PostChrisonwheels, on Aug 12 2007, 06:50 PM, said:

Hey! Tell him there are more people interested!
Harley's an ideal bike for someone with sci; it's possible to fit a reverse gear!

BTW I tried a Gilera Fuoco a couple of weeks ago and found it too dodgy; it would have been too easy to drop and the consequences would have been gruesome.


There's more about this sort of thing on the NABD forum; lots of people there would be interested in seeing the Adaptive Motorcycles system over here!

thanks for telling me about that site. I just looked at that Gilera Fuoco on google wow that thing looks way to top heavy.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 09:21 PM

Dunno if it was top heavy or not; the engine and fuel are slung well-low. Problem was that you didn't have much control over when the tilting unlocked; when it did the thing just dropped. I don't know if it would be possible to 'rewire' the brain that controls the mechanism, but I doubt it.

As far as I know nobody over here has had the Adaptive Motorcycles system (Pete Griffiths developed his own system). We can do the gear-shifting and brake adaptions easy enough with established technology we already have. It's just the stabilisers we don't have. That and smooth, empty roads!
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:09 PM

View PostChrisonwheels, on Aug 13 2007, 09:21 PM, said:

Dunno if it was top heavy or not; the engine and fuel are slung well-low. Problem was that you didn't have much control over when the tilting unlocked; when it did the thing just dropped. I don't know if it would be possible to 'rewire' the brain that controls the mechanism, but I doubt it.

As far as I know nobody over here has had the Adaptive Motorcycles system (Pete Griffiths developed his own system). We can do the gear-shifting and brake adaptions easy enough with established technology we already have. It's just the stabilisers we don't have. That and smooth, empty roads!

I have been looking for good back brake system. i know gp tech has thumb brakes but the back brakes will not lock up. I am looking for somthing that if i need to i can lock the back tire up if i need to stop quickly.
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 01:17 PM

View PostKev-O, on Aug 13 2007, 02:09 PM, said:

View PostChrisonwheels, on Aug 13 2007, 09:21 PM, said:

Dunno if it was top heavy or not; the engine and fuel are slung well-low. Problem was that you didn't have much control over when the tilting unlocked; when it did the thing just dropped. I don't know if it would be possible to 'rewire' the brain that controls the mechanism, but I doubt it.

As far as I know nobody over here has had the Adaptive Motorcycles system (Pete Griffiths developed his own system). We can do the gear-shifting and brake adaptions easy enough with established technology we already have. It's just the stabilisers we don't have. That and smooth, empty roads!

I have been looking for good back brake system. i know gp tech has thumb brakes but the back brakes will not lock up. I am looking for somthing that if i need to i can lock the back tire up if i need to stop quickly.



I have a Website here for Adaptive Engineering Check it out: http://www.adaptivem...es.com/pg2.html

Have anyone here used them before to obtain the kits? Or is this the same place your all talking about were to get them Like Lee is? Plus I know of KlickTronic and Translogic for electronic shifters.
I am trying to keep ahead of any changes in this industry so that I can keep my Website up to date too...

Thanks guys

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 02:06 PM

View PostTim13, on Aug 3 2007, 03:38 PM, said:

That is sweet! Thanks for the link. Been trying to figure out how to ride a Harley without falling into an unhappy lump at stop lights for quite awhile.





Tim13,

I called Eric at Adaptive Engineerig and ask him to return return my call about any new technologies comming out with his products, I will enquire about adapting Harlys to these rolling stands also or you can reach Eric at: the website I listed below, they have their phone number listed on their page you'll find them again at: http://www.adaptivem...es.com/pg2.html And hey let me know how this turns out for you, I have other bikers out there that can guide you for different options too.

Thanks Tim!

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 04:55 PM

View Postbikeraccsurvivor, on Sep 2 2007, 01:17 PM, said:

View PostKev-O, on Aug 13 2007, 02:09 PM, said:

View PostChrisonwheels, on Aug 13 2007, 09:21 PM, said:

Dunno if it was top heavy or not; the engine and fuel are slung well-low. Problem was that you didn't have much control over when the tilting unlocked; when it did the thing just dropped. I don't know if it would be possible to 'rewire' the brain that controls the mechanism, but I doubt it.

As far as I know nobody over here has had the Adaptive Motorcycles system (Pete Griffiths developed his own system). We can do the gear-shifting and brake adaptions easy enough with established technology we already have. It's just the stabilisers we don't have. That and smooth, empty roads!

I have been looking for good back brake system. i know gp tech has thumb brakes but the back brakes will not lock up. I am looking for somthing that if i need to i can lock the back tire up if i need to stop quickly.



I have a Website here for Adaptive Engineering Check it out: http://www.adaptivem...es.com/pg2.html

Have anyone here used them before to obtain the kits? Or is this the same place your all talking about were to get them Like Lee is? Plus I know of KlickTronic and Translogic for electronic shifters.
I am trying to keep ahead of any changes in this industry so that I can keep my Website up to date too...

Thanks guys

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I bought my kit from Lee. I dont think they are the same place. i know In lees kit its a pingel electric shifter an i have heard that pingel is way better then klicktronic.
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 10:37 PM

Cool Key-O! I'll check Pingle out and will pass this information on as I come across these questions, very helpfull,

Thnak you!!

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 10:54 PM

View Postbikeraccsurvivor, on Sep 2 2007, 10:37 PM, said:

Cool Key-O! I'll check Pingle out and will pass this information on as I come across these questions, very helpfull,

Thnak you!!

Garry

i dont know about klicktronic but with pingle the only time you have to use the clutch is to start an stop which is real good since all the controls are up on the handal bars so thats one less thing i have to worry about.
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Posted 03 September 2007 - 06:50 AM

View PostKev-O, on Sep 3 2007, 08:54 AM, said:

View Postbikeraccsurvivor, on Sep 2 2007, 10:37 PM, said:

Cool Key-O! I'll check Pingle out and will pass this information on as I come across these questions, very helpfull,

Thnak you!!

Garry

i dont know about klicktronic but with pingle the only time you have to use the clutch is to start an stop which is real good since all the controls are up on the handal bars so thats one less thing i have to worry about.



I HAVE USED BOTH KLIPTRONIC & TRANS LOGIC & BOTH HAVE PROOVED VERY RELIABLE. EVEN WHEN RIDING IN VERY MUDDY CONDITIONS THEY STILL KEEP WORKING. THE TRANSLOGIC IS MUCH SMALLER DIAMETER MAKING MOUNTING EASIER. AS WITH MOST BIKES I ONLY USE THE CLUTCH TO TAKE OFF. BOTH CAN BE WIRED INTO CPU ON ROAD BIKES ALLOWING FLAT CHANGING. I HAVNT HERD OF PRINGLE SHIFTER BUT I WILL LOOK IT UP
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 12:35 AM

he's done another vid
http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=5UpP2VFThXA
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 01:32 AM

If anyone is interested in getting a kit from him just ask an i can give you his cell phone #
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 05:39 PM

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I bought my kit from Lee. I dont think they are the same place. i know In lees kit its a pingel electric shifter an i have heard that pingel is way better then klicktronic.
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Seeing as Lee is shown on the Adaptive site I would assume that it's the Adaptive system.
I have asked them what the kit consists of and whether they can put me in touch with the guy in the UK with one, but they haven't got back to me yet.

-How much does Lee's system sell for and does it include quick-shifter and thumb brake?

Here's the email I got from Erick:


Hi Chris,
I do ship my kits to the UK, just sent one 2 weeks ago. I have 2 kits available for the Honda CBR 600RR that are ready to go. My kit does not work on Harleys as they do not have the clearance needed to mount the kickstand. I design and fabricate the kits based on each persons bike, I have no one kit fits all solutions, the only reason I have kits available for the Honda is because it was such a nightmare to make I made a couple of extra ones, photo attached.

The cost for the Kit is $2500.00 USD. I believe it would be much less expensive for you if I ship a kit to you rather than adapting a bike and then sending it, with the kit I mark them as Disabled devices so you pay no duties at customs, not sure I could do that with a bike.

If you have any further questions or would like to order one of the remaining kits, please let me know.

Sincerely,
Erick J. Keays
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562-869-0984
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On 8/10/07 4:50 AM, "Chris Selway" <c.selway@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Hi, I’ve seen videos of Lee Beaver, etc using your system.
I’m paraplegic, (T7) and very interested in getting back on 2 wheels.
I’m in the UK; do you sell your equipment as a kit?
How much does it cost?
Do you have any users over here?
I’m thinking of getting a Harley (easier transfer and the possibility of fitting a reverse gear); will your system work / be adapted easily?
What are the possibilities that you could get me the bike, adapt it and ship it as well?

Regards,
Chris.


BTW, great vid of Lee -cheers for that.
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 07:51 PM

Lees kit is around $2000 us dollers. I just texted him asking him about Harleys when i hear something from him i will let you know His kit does come with the auto shifter but does not come with a back brake. It is not cheap to send stuff from the US to the UK but i know he has sent a kit to Austrailia.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 03:47 AM

I talked to Lee an he said he cant do Harleys.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 01:21 PM

http://www.bartashed...biker_nyjuly09/ I Made The Magazine !! just click
RIDE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT.....
DON'T WAIT UNTIL IT COMES TO YOU..
GO GET IT,AND ROLL WITH IT..
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:22 PM

great article....my dad's always been into motorycles. I'm pretty sure we have enough parts in our garage for five. ha. His Yamaha FJR1300 is my favorite though.....even if I don't get to drive it myself anymore. Riding is better than nothing! One of these days I'm gonna figure out what to do so I can ride one by myself. I'll have to get some advice from ya :icecream:
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 01:33 AM

View PostAbbey22, on Jul 13 2009, 03:22 PM, said:

great article....my dad's always been into motorycles. I'm pretty sure we have enough parts in our garage for five. ha. His Yamaha FJR1300 is my favorite though.....even if I don't get to drive it myself anymore. Riding is better than nothing! One of these days I'm gonna figure out what to do so I can ride one by myself. I'll have to get some advice from ya :blushing02:

I might be selling my bike you can buy it :rolleyes:
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 08:35 PM

Just seen the topic. I am T4 complete and I ride a GSXR 1000 K6 in UK at Castle Combe race track. I have just bought an SV650 SK5 which I am also adapting and it will be available Summer 2010 for para's who have been bikers to come and try out motorcycling at Castle Combe. The instructors have got a great deal of experience, having had to deal with me!! The staff are friendly, helpful and want to encourage more disabled riders. You would go out on the track for the first time during the lunch-time break in the regular track day. One instructor in-front, one behind acting as rolling marshalls. The bike will have hand controls and stabilisers. My GSXR has the hand controls, but no stabilisers as I took them off and get launched from the pit lane by helpers. Having spoken to a few interested parties, they thought it might be better to have stabilisers on the bike which is being used by those getting back into biking. Balance is not a problem, if I can do it as T4, then any para can do it. I am not the fastest on the track, but am not the slowest either. Nothing better than overtaking an able-bodied rider who's hangin off their bike and thinking their going fast! Get in contact via email tskeelspiggins@hotmail.com or look at the photos on my website http://web.me.com/tskeelspiggins which also has stuff on skiing, surfing, sailing. Hope this helps some bikers to get back on board a bike. Cheers, Talan. Attached Image: cc4sep23.jpg
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