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#1 Somebody

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 07:09 PM

They just came and measured me for a new power wheelchair.

Medicare is buying it.
My existing one is falling apart.

We started talking about legs, arm rests, etc., etc.........
I'm lost on what I want.

I know I want tilt & recline.
But as far as the brand & features I don't know what to get.

They told me to search the web & go shopping.
Then let them know.

What brand do you have?

Any feature on your wheelchair you love?
All suggestions appreciated.

I wish power chairs for quads were more sporty. lol

:doh: Kay

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Posted 14 September 2007 - 08:40 PM

I know next to nothing about power'chairs, but several things that popped up when I was looking into getting either a scooter or manual'chair that may be of interest to you in your quest.

Top speed: does this matter to you? Not just for how fast you go most of the time...but if you needed it.
Incline: what kind of hill slope do you need to get up?

Not really sure how much this helps, or if it's not even applicable...just my couple drops to help fill the bucket, so to speak. :ban:

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 12:13 AM

Could you get coverage for an e.fix system by Alber:

Frank Mobility Systems

Click on the e.fix link.

Edited by Bulky, 15 September 2007 - 12:14 AM.

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 02:09 AM

invacare tdx sp, or the pride q600, is nice but i would get the motion concepts tilt and recline and not the pride one. motion concepts has 50-55 degrees of tilt and has one of the cleanest tilt systems. Ask your supplier to bring you some demos of the different types, so you can see them first hand and even try them.

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 08:31 AM

Thanks Mobility Pro for the info.

I wonder who else will answer this one?

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 09:53 PM

Thanks very much for all your suggestions.
I'm gonna ck all of them out.

I can't wait to get a nice wheelchair.
Last time they picked everything out.
This time I hope to make it special and fit my needs.

Any more suggestions appreciated.

Thanks Kay

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 11:35 PM

check out the following

www.planetmobility.com

www.independencenow.com

hopr this helps you in maybe making a new decision. Power chairs are expensive, but in all reality, if they can make life easier and are the only way to get around, they are pricless !!

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 05:21 PM

I hope you read this before you decide.
First be certain your buying from a place that has a good service reputation.
If you never go outside then a pride is ok.
If you want a chair that can go outside and inside and through the mall and not go dead, get the invacare tdx5 but insist on the large batteries, not the 22nf. Size is important with batteries. Unless you fly a lotdo not get gel cell batteries. Get deep cycle maintenance free batteries. Insist that a steel plate the size of your foot be bolted to the heel plate. This protects your feet and while medicare doesnt pay for it, it is too cheep to not have. get swing out independant leg rests. The single leg rest does not provide protection to your legs in side impacts.
Ask for a MyDec tray that has a compartment under it. They are very adjustable and can carry a laptop inside. You can also see your feet in tight places.
The TDX 5 is a big chair that can move in tight places and go outside without getting stuck.
get an automatic headrest if you intend to spend long days up in it.
Try to negotiate an automatic legbag release valve on the footplate. It makes your more independant and you can empty it outside without anyone noticing, or easily indoors.
Invacare is usually easy to get repaired and they all mess up. 32 years in wheelchairs and none are perfect.
Roho Quatro is the standard seat option, but there are better seats. Theres a seat with an oscilating air pump built in that constantly changes pressure, very cool.
If you can get medicare to pay for it, get an elevating seat. This allows you a low profile while moving and the ability to reach things in the kitchen.

I'm a c-5 and that is bare minimum of where I start looking. Get as much as possible written by your doctor on the perscription.
You don't want a chair that you don't like because medicare wants to insist they last 7 years. That means it will be in for service.
tip. If the place takes wheelchairs to the service center to install batteries, find another DME. 90% of all repairs and adjustments should be made at your home and at your convienence. You can be picky, whoever gets your business makes 6 grand on the initial sale.

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Posted 20 October 2007 - 07:49 PM

View PostSomebody, on Sep 13 2007, 03:09 PM, said:

They just came and measured me for a new power wheelchair.

Medicare is buying it.
My existing one is falling apart.

We started talking about legs, arm rests, etc., etc.........
I'm lost on what I want.

I know I want tilt & recline.
But as far as the brand & features I don't know what to get.

They told me to search the web & go shopping.
Then let them know.

What brand do you have?

Any feature on your wheelchair you love?
All suggestions appreciated.

I wish power chairs for quads were more sporty. lol

:) Kay

Kay,

I can't believe that companies are still telling the client to look and see what they want. A good DME company will walk you through the process. First you need to go through a wc seating clinic with a PT or OT to be evaluated. This evaluation gives the insurance company all the justifications for the right equipment that you want and need. You have to be qualified for each component like tilt, recline, power legs, automatic leg bag empty(from another reply). This way you know where you stand on getting what you want. Second the DME (durable medical equipment) company that you are going to use needs to be present for the evaluation. This way 2 people and you are discussing different chairs that would meet your needs. If you can check out the different seating clinics in your area check for one that has demo wheelchairs that you can try out. You would not buy a car without test driving it first don't buy a wheelchair without test drving it first either. You will be it far more than you would be in a car. Take your time getting this new wheelchair. You will have to live with it for a long time. It is very important to research the DME company. Check to see if they charge for a home service call,( a reputable one will not charge for this) if your chair brakes down do they offer and have a loaner chair at no charge, (if your chair is going to be out of commision for a few days). Is the DME company NRRTS and JCAHO certified if not don't use them. NRRTS is a certification that makes sure that a percentage of the employees are certified rehab technology suppliers and know all the equipment out there and know how to give you information and seat you in the proper equipment for you injury or deformity. ALso a good thing to ask is are they a member of the Users First Alliance. Their mission statement is to "imporve the end user's quality of life. By providing customers state of the art, high perfromance products and quallity education, the Users First Alliance aims to encourage end users, clinicians, and providers to drive product selection based on client needs, and work together to ensure appropriate access to such equipment".
I agree with one of the other relpies that you received. Invacare TDX is a good base, several bases such as SP, SR(new this year brushless motor), StormTDX 3,4,&5. Look at the Motion Concepts tilt and recline to put on the TDX base it is more sturdy and the footplates are warranted for lifetime. (even the center mount that allow for less bulk in the front of the chair). Permobil is also a good chair they do not allow other systems on their bases though. It does have tilt, recline, power legs, and elevate with good electronics.
Hope this helps and isn't too late. Take your time.
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Posted 20 October 2007 - 08:57 PM

Thanks everyone!

It's not too late rolling J

I've been in bed a month with a red spot,
but I'm back up praying it's healed.

Thanks for all the great advice guys!
I'm lost though. lol

I wish I had an organized list of things to ck out.
Like from head to toe.
Is that on the web anywhere?

They said Medicare didn't require an evaluation.
The dme came out for 15 mins & measured my seat & legs.
Left a 2-3 pg pamplet and said "shop" on line.

So what should I do next?
thank you so much!

:) Kay

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Posted 21 October 2007 - 12:21 AM

View Postrolling J, on Oct 20 2007, 03:49 PM, said:

View PostSomebody, on Sep 13 2007, 03:09 PM, said:

They just came and measured me for a new power wheelchair.

Medicare is buying it.
My existing one is falling apart.

We started talking about legs, arm rests, etc., etc.........
I'm lost on what I want.

I know I want tilt & recline.
But as far as the brand & features I don't know what to get.

They told me to search the web & go shopping.
Then let them know.

What brand do you have?

Any feature on your wheelchair you love?
All suggestions appreciated.

I wish power chairs for quads were more sporty. lol

:) Kay

Kay,

I can't believe that companies are still telling the client to look and see what they want. A good DME company will walk you through the process. First you need to go through a wc seating clinic with a PT or OT to be evaluated. This evaluation gives the insurance company all the justifications for the right equipment that you want and need. You have to be qualified for each component like tilt, recline, power legs, automatic leg bag empty(from another reply). This way you know where you stand on getting what you want. Second the DME (durable medical equipment) company that you are going to use needs to be present for the evaluation. This way 2 people and you are discussing different chairs that would meet your needs. If you can check out the different seating clinics in your area check for one that has demo wheelchairs that you can try out. You would not buy a car without test driving it first don't buy a wheelchair without test drving it first either. You will be it far more than you would be in a car. Take your time getting this new wheelchair. You will have to live with it for a long time. It is very important to research the DME company. Check to see if they charge for a home service call,( a reputable one will not charge for this) if your chair brakes down do they offer and have a loaner chair at no charge, (if your chair is going to be out of commision for a few days). Is the DME company NRRTS and JCAHO certified if not don't use them. NRRTS is a certification that makes sure that a percentage of the employees are certified rehab technology suppliers and know all the equipment out there and know how to give you information and seat you in the proper equipment for you injury or deformity. ALso a good thing to ask is are they a member of the Users First Alliance. Their mission statement is to "imporve the end user's quality of life. By providing customers state of the art, high perfromance products and quallity education, the Users First Alliance aims to encourage end users, clinicians, and providers to drive product selection based on client needs, and work together to ensure appropriate access to such equipment".
I agree with one of the other relpies that you received. Invacare TDX is a good base, several bases such as SP, SR(new this year brushless motor), StormTDX 3,4,&5. Look at the Motion Concepts tilt and recline to put on the TDX base it is more sturdy and the footplates are warranted for lifetime. (even the center mount that allow for less bulk in the front of the chair). Permobil is also a good chair they do not allow other systems on their bases though. It does have tilt, recline, power legs, and elevate with good electronics.
Hope this helps and isn't too late. Take your time.
Judy
I have never gotten a loaner and the fact is that what you get ,,you are truely stuck with. DME's will say a lot of BS to sell a chair. Many PT's are entirely incompetant and you are much better off knowing what you can get as opposed to what they think you may need. Nobody "needs" a jazzy. It hasn't got the electrical system to go from one end of trhe mall to the other, but they get perscribed by PT's. Is that excersize for who is with you?
PT's don't perscribe full feet plates and medicare won't pay for it but DME's will install them because they can protect you from a broken foot or a broken leg and they are sooo simple. If your a quad then I suggest you get everything you can imagine needing on your chair because you are not buying a car. A bad wheelchair can ruin your life.
Get the biggest batteries possible on the chair and learn to care for it. Peremobile makes a great chair but when it has a serious electrical problem, you won't get parts today, or tommorow. You sure won't get a loaner if your sitting in a custom fitted wheelchair. The more standard styles you can stick with the faster the repairs will happen. I'm not a big fan of invacares engineering, but they beat the tar out of every other chair maker when it comes to downtime while awaiting parts. invacare also allows you to switch off so called safetys. if you have to recline and backup at the same time some chairs will not do it.
If you want to add auxillary power from your batteries this will eliminate many warrenties on some models.
If you travel by air often you will want a shipping crate made for your chair and gel cell batteries but honestly, they will mess up your chair or loose it. So be sure to have a perscription for a non power chair that you can have waiting for you. Nobody will rent you a power wheelchair at a reasonable price, unless your visiting fantasyland.
If you don't travel by air, do not get gel cell batteries. They just die fast. They only last between 150 to 200 charges if your lucky. That is hardly break in time for a "deep cycle" maintenance free battery set. And remember, Congress decided batteries should last at least a year. I've gotten more than a year from deep cycle batteries but not from gell cel batteries. Most wheelchair batteries die from under and overcharging. Try to run them down to 30% power before recharging them and let them charge fully. If your charger has a little button or switch that can be changed for different types of batteries, have someone tape it into the proper position so nobody experiments to see if it charges faster if you set it for "gell cel". Same if your chair has gell cel batteries. You can't afford them to go dead any faster than they already will.
Chances are all your local DME's know each other and the competition is between the ones that can fix your chair and the ones that will call you back next thursday. Talk to some local quads and or paras.
If your rich, none of this matters. Get two fitted chairs. If you're just a lazy para that doesn't want to push, get a Jazzy.
By the way, you'll need padded hip guides in the TDX models and the center wheel drive will get you through tight aisles. Permobile is usually front wheel drive and while it may not have the parts waiting on the shelf, it may last you 15 years and only need new batteries and tires. If your new to being in a power wheelchair, get the best chair that you can with every option you can get. In five years, get it replaced. That is how you get a backup chair!

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P.S. Trust me on the footplates. I can't feel when I'm crushing my foot and power chairs can do it sooo fast!

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Posted 21 October 2007 - 12:40 AM

where in texas are you located? I happen to work for a DME in the Dallas area that is owned and ran by a para. We go out of our way to get people in what they want and what is best for them because we all know what being in a w/c that isn't right for you is like. We do free seating evals, and have a PT on staff. I've been on the bad end of getting a chair before also, i got a quickie that was 3 inch's to wide for me and way to wide for any of my doors, this was 6 years ago and it has been setting in a closet while i used my 10 year old one untill i could get a new one this year. It's also one of the reason I went to work for this DME, finding a owner and VP, that care and also know what we go through is a big plus.

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Posted 21 October 2007 - 07:30 PM

Thanks!

Sounds like most of us get the run around.

Lots of great ideas which I've made notes of!

I don't fly, so not gel batteries.

The chair I'm in now was my 1st electric wc,
and it's too wide & not very sturdy.
So 5 yrs later trying to do better.

Which is best for pressure relief recline or tilt?

I live in Cleburne Tx.
I don't have any way to get to Dallas.
But thanks alot.
I need someone that knows their stuff.

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Posted 21 October 2007 - 07:58 PM

View PostSomebody, on Oct 21 2007, 03:30 PM, said:

Thanks!

Sounds like most of us get the run around.

Lots of great ideas which I've made notes of!

I don't fly, so not gel batteries.

The chair I'm in now was my 1st electric wc,
and it's too wide & not very sturdy.
So 5 yrs later trying to do better.

Which is best for pressure relief recline or tilt?

I live in Cleburne Tx.
I don't have any way to get to Dallas.
But thanks alot.
I need someone that knows their stuff.
Tllt in space actually changes your pressure points. Combining tilt in space with the recline feature hwelps with your endurance in the chair. By combining the two features you can actually endure accidental long terms in the chair without getting a skin breakdown.
An automatic power flip up hearest xcan be worth its weight in gold if spend long days in your chair.
If you have spent five years in a chair then just begin thinking of what your last chair did poorly. There are solutions for the problems you had.

Best wishes and prayers,
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 08:46 PM

Thanks John,

I will get tilt & recline.
I need to change my pressure points.
I have a recurring red spot.

I've never heard about a power head rest
& I'm looking it up right now!

Wonder if there's a list somewhere
of all the feature options wc's have?

Great idea to think about my problems now.

Thanks bunches, Mona

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 02:21 AM

View PostSomebody, on Oct 22 2007, 04:46 PM, said:

Thanks John,

I will get tilt & recline.
I need to change my pressure points.
I have a recurring red spot.

I've never heard about a power head rest
& I'm looking it up right now!

Wonder if there's a list somewhere
of all the feature options wc's have?

Great idea to think about my problems now.

Thanks bunches, Mona


Mona,
There are some good DME companies out there. I hate that some have such a negative impact on so many people. The DME company I am associated with is great. They really care about their clients. Try out going to the web site for Motion Concepts. They have a great low profile tilt and recline system and it might give you some other information you are looking for.
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 06:01 PM

View Postrolling J, on Oct 22 2007, 09:21 PM, said:

View PostSomebody, on Oct 22 2007, 04:46 PM, said:

Thanks John,

I will get tilt & recline.
I need to change my pressure points.
I have a recurring red spot.

I've never heard about a power head rest
& I'm looking it up right now!

Wonder if there's a list somewhere
of all the feature options wc's have?

Great idea to think about my problems now.

Thanks bunches, Mona


Mona,
There are some good DME companies out there. I hate that some have such a negative impact on so many people. The DME company I am associated with is great. They really care about their clients. Try out going to the web site for Motion Concepts. They have a great low profile tilt and recline system and it might give you some other information you are looking for.
Judy

Thanks Judy,

I've come to the conclusion I can't & shouldn't have to do this by myself.
The dme will need to help me. Yes I can search the web for ideas, and take all your suggestions.
But they will need to explain and help me choose what I need.
I left a message on their phone asking for an appt for them to come & let's do this together.
I looked at that site Judy and bookmarked it to show to them when they come.
I searched all your suggestions and will discuss all your helpful ideas with them.

Big thanks to all of you.
Any more ideas that will help me I'd appreciate them.
thanks!

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 06:03 PM

View PostSomebody, on Oct 22 2007, 04:46 PM, said:

Thanks John,

I will get tilt & recline.
I need to change my pressure points.
I have a recurring red spot.

I've never heard about a power head rest
& I'm looking it up right now!

Wonder if there's a list somewhere
of all the feature options wc's have?

Great idea to think about my problems now.

Thanks bunches, Mona
Unforunately, the DME determines what you can have on your chair. Your doctor has to use the right perscrition codes. Your medicare and insurance try to limit what you get on your chair. If you do long days like I do you need some devices so you can change your physical position, not just cross your eyes. By the way, there is a seat I want to know more about called an airetouch PK. It is variable air pressure seat It slowly inflates and deflates. Makes Roho seem like an air rock.
The seating system is as important as the chair. Hip guides need to be perfect. If you use a laptop desk, try MyDesc. It is very adjustable. It is clear so you may see your feet. (save some broken toes)
A driving tip: When your in close areas turn down the power dial. Try to have the recline and tilt switch duplicated on the primary controller. Some controllers have as many as 8 inputs. Auto head rests have been arond since I had my accident.
I'm very glad if i'm able to help. A poor chair makes you not want to get up and go. Don't be afraid to make demands. The can't afford to have a big bad chair go unpaid for. Even if the idiots at medicare don't know why you need an electric leg bag release valve doesn't mean the DME won't put it on to get you to sign. Then you can visit the medicare office and empty it ;->

good luck,
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 06:29 PM

View Postjohn S., on Oct 23 2007, 01:03 PM, said:

View PostSomebody, on Oct 22 2007, 04:46 PM, said:

Thanks John,

I will get tilt & recline.
I need to change my pressure points.
I have a recurring red spot.

I've never heard about a power head rest
& I'm looking it up right now!

Wonder if there's a list somewhere
of all the feature options wc's have?

Great idea to think about my problems now.

Thanks bunches, Mona
Unforunately, the DME determines what you can have on your chair. Your doctor has to use the right perscrition codes. Your medicare and insurance try to limit what you get on your chair. If you do long days like I do you need some devices so you can change your physical position, not just cross your eyes. By the way, there is a seat I want to know more about called an airetouch PK. It is variable air pressure seat It slowly inflates and deflates. Makes Roho seem like an air rock.
The seating system is as important as the chair. Hip guides need to be perfect. If you use a laptop desk, try MyDesc. It is very adjustable. It is clear so you may see your feet. (save some broken toes)
A driving tip: When your in close areas turn down the power dial. Try to have the recline and tilt switch duplicated on the primary controller. Some controllers have as many as 8 inputs. Auto head rests have been arond since I had my accident.
I'm very glad if i'm able to help. A poor chair makes you not want to get up and go. Don't be afraid to make demands. The can't afford to have a big bad chair go unpaid for. Even if the idiots at medicare don't know why you need an electric leg bag release valve doesn't mean the DME won't put it on to get you to sign. Then you can visit the medicare office and empty it ;->

good luck,
john

Thanks John,
I'll definately ck out that cushion.
Sounds awesome!. My roho feels like a rock right now. lol
I agree I need to ck everything out and speak up for what I need!

You all are giving me confidence and the reasons to get it right this time.

~thanks so much~

What is a power flip up headrest?
I can't find it on the internet.

Also is there any leg rests that the length adjusts for different heel heights on shoes.
Say a slipper to a high heel, without getting on the floor and adjusting the screws?

I have a flip away joy stick.
Anything better?

I wear dresses and have a bedside bag
hooked up to my catheter which hooks under my chair,
hid in a bag cover (insight)
Any better suggestions on this set up?

thanks so much!




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