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#1 User is offline   kashley 

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 04:39 AM

I have seen some people advertise there travel shower chairs and such on here so far. What I do not understand is why hotels think that all they need are those little white granny seats weather it is a roll in shower or a bath tub. I also do not understand if a company has a product that will work for a majority of spinal cord injured people why they are not pushing in on the hotels like the guy on TLC that has his stool for little people. We have a Tubby II which is a very good sturdy travel bench, but we have gotten rooms in hotels before and all they have are roll in showers with one of those little white benches in it. The hotel staff was shocked to find out that you needed a shower chair for a roll in shower.
I saw a guy advertising a travel chair that slides I would like to know how to you keep those small wheels still during a transfer if you can not stand up?

Okay I think I just vented my years of traveling, but does anyone agree with me or can make me understand the thinking behind those little white benches for all.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 05:14 AM

that pisses me off to. When they say handicap rooms all it means is its for old people. I hate when hotels do just enough to pass inspection.
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 05:18 AM

OMG don't get me started on hotels! I totally thought of the same thing when I saw the little guy selling his stool - maybe a good business to get into - selling bath chairs to hotels. We have to pack up our chair and hoyer in our van whenever we go anywhere, which is kind of a pain. Yeah, how hard would it be if a hotel had 3 roll in showers, to have 3 bath chairs stored somewhere for check out, duh! My husband says there are medical supply places where he's rented that type of stuff if he's flown somewhere. Yeah, I can just see trying to transfer my 6'4" husband to one of those little granny chairs. Funny, I never thought about those little chairs - just set all his stuff on it while he was showering. Anyways, just wanted to say I share your frustration.
I daydream about a disabled paradise hotel where they have people to transfer you into hammocks on the beach and zero-entry pools and electric lifts built into the ceilings. Oh a girl can dream...
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 04:00 PM

I just stayed at the Four Seasons in Atlanta and had every thing I could have needed. They babied me and kissed my ass the whole time I was there. This was my first time in a 5 star hotel .They had it all , and it wasn't free either. $4.00 for a little bottle of water ! It was kinda rediculous to see that some privledged people expexct this kind of treatment. If I ever am lucky enugh to go there again , I will try to use more of their services. 24 hour ass kissing on demand , they got it. But , you gotta have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I don;t .....YET! I'm working on that .
I stayed at a Hampton Inn once that had a shower chair. I usually carry a folding shower chair now so All I need is a room and a bathroom I can manover in and a soft bed and a remote thats not nailed down.
At this time any hotel I can afford usually does ok but no showerchair , no consiear , no valait parking , no gourmet room service , and none of that ass kissing .

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 10:58 PM

Ug hotels. There needs to be standards in place. Standards that should actually be drawn up by disabled people. Just putting grab bars everywhere does not constitute an accessible hotel room. Beds are always too high for hubby to transfer with out great trouble & I almost 95% of the time have to call to even get a shower bench. Hubby & I are kind of hotel snobs, so where not staying at Motel 6's or anything like that. These are high quality hotels and they should get their act together in regards to accessibility.

I actually studied interior design (got my BA) and in one of my classes we touched on hospitality design. Basically the standards for hotels are pretty silly & most hotels that put in grab bars, have wider doors, a hand held shower (I hate them!), enough clearance on one side of the bed and wrap the plumbing under the sink are up to ADA standards - just ridiculous. We all know they can do a lot better.

What also kills me is that they always put the accessible rooms way the hell away from the elevators. Why not put them closer to the elevators so we are not killing our selves pushing over that horrible carpet?

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 12:40 AM

View Postdave420atya, on Nov 15 2007, 04:00 PM, said:

I just stayed at the Four Seasons in Atlanta and had every thing I could have needed. They babied me and kissed my ass the whole time I was there. This was my first time in a 5 star hotel .They had it all , and it wasn't free either. $4.00 for a little bottle of water ! It was kinda rediculous to see that some privledged people expexct this kind of treatment. If I ever am lucky enugh to go there again , I will try to use more of their services. 24 hour ass kissing on demand , they got it. But , you gotta have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I don;t .....YET! I'm working on that .
I stayed at a Hampton Inn once that had a shower chair. I usually carry a folding shower chair now so All I need is a room and a bathroom I can manover in and a soft bed and a remote thats not nailed down.
At this time any hotel I can afford usually does ok but no showerchair , no consiear , no valait parking , no gourmet room service , and none of that ass kissing .


Where did you get your folding shower chair? does it have a horse shoe access? and can you get one with a hourse shoe access on the right? id appreciate any help you can gice me. thanks dave :)
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 01:15 AM

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Hope this works I'm no computer wizard.http://www.improvelife.com/Sale/Shower-Chairs/Folding-Shower-Chair-w-Back;jsessionid=0a0014481f43a20ca54fb7b7475aa624d31758cab74e.e3eTaxiNaN0Te34Pa38
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:30 PM

Attached Image: ACT310CASE.jpgAttached Image: ACT310.jpgWe use the Activeaid Tubby II Folding Bath Chair - Bath / Shower Seats. It works great in a bathtub my husband is a quad and it is pretty study.
The web site it is on is: http://www.southwestmedical.com/Bath_and_T...ath_Chair/131p0

I totally forgot about the high beds *laugh* They need ramps to get on the beds

I will say the one place I did stay at the had a roll in shower with a real roll in shower chair was the Imperial Palace in VEGAS! Although I love the would love the high end places the only mostly consistant place for accessible rooms we have found are the Homewood Suites except the on in Addison, TX.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:01 PM

You and I have something in common......Tall husbands! Mine is 6'3'' and is a c-5/c-6.
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:13 PM

[size=2]Wow im so glad i found this site you guys are great i was just searching the net on travel chairs you guys are right everytime me and my hubby go away the hotel rooms that are wheelchair acc (so they say)usually never have shower chairs over the years me and hubby have come up with some little ideas that have worked but not without his help and that is why im looking for a shower chair that i can transfer myself into without his help, me and my sis and daughter are looking into going to the dominican republic punta cana in jan and i have a big feeling that there is going to be issues when it comes to booking a hotel even when they say wheelchiar accesiable so i want to be prepared and have my own travel shower chair the two that were posted look awsome not sure which one to purchase which would be easier to travel with on a plane,any more suggestion on travel chairs would be great ok i forgot to say that you guys all must know of those folding chairs they have in hotels rooms that they use to put your clothes on they have four or fivestraps across them and usually are in the closets well me and hubby have used them many times in the hotels we've stayed in not very sturdy though he usually has to grab the sides when i transfer or i end up on my ass lololo also have used those folding chairs that everyone uses on the beach there a hassel also but it works with a little help from someone thanks everyone for your help
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 05:32 PM

Kashley's folding chair looks much sturdier than mine. I like that it is a potty chair also , with an armrest.
I might need to "upgrade".
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 08:09 PM

View Postwheelygirl38, on Nov 16 2007, 10:13 AM, said:

[size=2]Wow im so glad i found this site you guys are great i was just searching the net on travel chairs you guys are right everytime me and my hubby go away the hotel rooms that are wheelchair acc (so they say)usually never have shower chairs over the years me and hubby have come up with some little ideas that have worked but not without his help and that is why im looking for a shower chair that i can transfer myself into without his help, me and my sis and daughter are looking into going to the dominican republic punta cana in jan and i have a big feeling that there is going to be issues when it comes to booking a hotel even when they say wheelchiar accesiable so i want to be prepared and have my own travel shower chair the two that were posted look awsome not sure which one to purchase which would be easier to travel with on a plane,any more suggestion on travel chairs would be great ok i forgot to say that you guys all must know of those folding chairs they have in hotels rooms that they use to put your clothes on they have four or fivestraps across them and usually are in the closets well me and hubby have used them many times in the hotels we've stayed in not very sturdy though he usually has to grab the sides when i transfer or i end up on my ass lololo also have used those folding chairs that everyone uses on the beach there a hassel also but it works with a little help from someone thanks everyone for your help


We have traveled with ours for the last 7 years now. It has been every where from New York to Anaheim, the only thing is the airlines count it as one your two allowed of your suitcases. Plus you always get the tag in it saying it was inspected. I always wonder what they think it is before they open it. *laugh* The only problem we ever had was either no bathtub or really low (short) tubs then we just used towels to support it.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 05:17 PM

That folding commode shower chair looks great but its $455 and I dont imagine insurance would pay for that luxury... can anyone suggest something more affordable that can go on an airplane and fit in the rental car we will be using for the week?
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 05:51 PM

View PostPara-pal, on Dec 12 2007, 11:17 AM, said:

That folding commode shower chair looks great but its $455 and I dont imagine insurance would pay for that luxury... can anyone suggest something more affordable that can go on an airplane and fit in the rental car we will be using for the week?


I know it does not help but this site has it for $365. Plus it had another folding chair for $120 by Nova.

http://www.caremedicalsource.com//product_...roducts_id=1025
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Posted 15 December 2007 - 03:05 AM

I have mentioned these before but here goes. I use these camping chairs in my shower at home. I find them very sturdy and even more comfortable than hard plastic shower chairs. They are not easily tipped over. They fold up very small and can be bought at just about any major store like Walmart, Target, K-mart. They only cost $4-$5 each so they are easily replaced. One lasts me about 4-6 months with daily use at home. If you took one with you on a trip just leave it instead of packing it back home.

I have never done it but I wonder if a small 4-5' hole could be cut in the middle of one and be used as a commode chair?

Someone could spend $5 and try it out before a trip to see if it works or if they like it without the cost of the much more costly "disabled approved" seats the companies want your oldest child in exchange for.

If you think it would be better get on the chairs with arm on it. I find that just gets more in the way than it helps.

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 06:03 AM

when i stay somwhere & they have a crappy little bench . i grab a dining chair from the room & use it in the shower. works a treat
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Posted 15 December 2007 - 11:56 AM

View Postkashley, on Nov 16 2007, 03:30 PM, said:

Attachment attachmentAttachment attachmentWe use the Activeaid Tubby II Folding Bath Chair - Bath / Shower Seats. It works great in a bathtub my husband is a quad and it is pretty study.
The web site it is on is: http://www.southwestmedical.com/Bath_and_T...ath_Chair/131p0

I totally forgot about the high beds *laugh* They need ramps to get on the beds

I will say the one place I did stay at the had a roll in shower with a real roll in shower chair was the Imperial Palace in VEGAS! Although I love the would love the high end places the only mostly consistant place for accessible rooms we have found are the Homewood Suites except the on in Addison, TX.

Kathyn



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View Postkashley, on Nov 16 2007, 03:30 PM, said:

Attachment attachmentAttachment attachmentWe use the Activeaid Tubby II Folding Bath Chair - Bath / Shower Seats. It works great in a bathtub my husband is a quad and it is pretty study.
The web site it is on is: http://www.southwestmedical.com/Bath_and_T...ath_Chair/131p0

I totally forgot about the high beds *laugh* They need ramps to get on the beds

I will say the one place I did stay at the had a roll in shower with a real roll in shower chair was the Imperial Palace in VEGAS! Although I love the would love the high end places the only mostly consistant place for accessible rooms we have found are the Homewood Suites except the on in Addison, TX.

Kathyn


Hi Kathyn
is the shower chair in the pic really heavy and sturdy enough for a para do do their own transfer?
Will the chair not tip over when you press down on the one side?
Please let me know weight if you know. Thx

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 02:48 PM

View PostOcc.Therapist, on Dec 15 2007, 05:56 AM, said:

Hi Kathyn
is the shower chair in the pic really heavy and sturdy enough for a para do do their own transfer?
Will the chair not tip over when you press down on the one side?
Please let me know weight if you know. Thx


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I really could not tell you about a para, my husband is a quad. As his helper I do not find the transfer any different than the regular one we have at home, but of course we use a gate belt to assist us in both places. I can tell you and that the little short feet on the side (you can see the front one in the picture) screw up and down so that you will have support under the transfer side they press against the top edge of the tub. The only time have problems are when the tub has really low sides and can not get the little feet down or it there is no grab bar. It is not what I consider too heavy, I wish it had a shoulder strap, but both of us have carried it and never have a problem. Let me know if I can help any more.

These are the specs I got off of the web site www.caremedicalsource.com
Product Features:

Padded tub chair with an all-steel frame for maximum strength and stability.
Adaptable to a variety of bath tub styles
Reversible for right or left hand use
Folds flat for travel or storage and will fit easily into a car or closet.
Padded seat with opening provides access for cleaning perineal areas
Transfer bench with adjustable stabilizers (these are those feet that screw in and out)
Padded, sling style back.
*Pictured to right folded with optional carrying case.

Product Specifications

Weight: 20 lbs.
Height adjustable floor to top of seat: 17 1/4" - 20 1/4"

Seat width (including bench) 25"
Seat dimension front to back: 16 1/2"
Height frοm top of back to top of seat: 13 1/2"
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