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#91 kewlcatkez

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 01:29 PM

View Postjules, on Jan 24 2008, 11:58 AM, said:

Thanks everyone - my drink will be a pint of cider (or 2 halves if my dad's around)
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LOL :D

Just to pick up on the "half vs Pint" thing. My Father-in-law ( fil) refuses to buy a "lady" a pint. He would rather buy 2 halves than a pint as he says it isn't "the done thing". I used to point out that I am no lady :) but nowadays its easier for me to hold a half anyway ( due to dislocations/tendonitis)!

I think that its men of a certain age/generation. My FIL also has to take over and take my chair apart/put it in the car for me. Its more than wanting to help, its a 'Chivalry' I think! He is one of a dying breed who gets the door for all ladies, the chair at a restaurant etc. Will pay the bill if out with friends - for the female. I know that sometimes those who give "feminism" as their motivation have tried to quash this. However, I actually like this trait! My husband has always got the door for a woman, etc, and its not motivated by disability, nor how attractive she is! LOL


What about you guys here in the Pub, do you think that Chivalry is dead? Should it be? Or do you think that Chivalry has several motivations??

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 11:46 AM

Hi K

You're right about Wasps we had a H/cup quarter final loss against the in 2004, plus the one everyone remember is the first year that we had the play-offs to decide who was champions, Glos won the league by 14 points but got nothing for it because we lost the playoff game. The same thing happened last year we won the league but lost the play off, we are hopefully alot stronger this year though. We have got some good match ups tomorrow, Vixter (ex glos) will be at tighthead against Wood who we all think is the best you loosehead in the country. Plus Ryan Lamb against Cipriani at Fly-half.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:29 AM

Thanks, Jules. I'll have to have mine on Sunday, though I'll have to drink extra to account for the wait.

Now, on to the entertainment part of our thread...

Today's video clip is titled, "Chlorine For The Gene-Pool".
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Posted 27 January 2008 - 01:15 PM

View Postjules, on Jan 25 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

Hi K

You're right about Wasps we had a H/cup quarter final loss against the in 2004, plus the one everyone remember is the first year that we had the play-offs to decide who was champions, Glos won the league by 14 points but got nothing for it because we lost the playoff game. The same thing happened last year we won the league but lost the play off, we are hopefully alot stronger this year though. We have got some good match ups tomorrow, Vixter (ex glos) will be at tighthead against Wood who we all think is the best you loosehead in the country. Plus Ryan Lamb against Cipriani at Fly-half.


WAHOOOOO for you and the other Gloucester Fans, Jules! Another fab win!!!!..and against the WASPS!!!
Did ya have a drink to celebrate (or 3!)?

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 07:00 PM

Hi Everyone

I hope you all realise we will have to carry on doing this for the rest of the season. It was a bit of a nail bitter though 18-17 in the end 3 sin binnings (1 for us 2 for them) the last 3 minutes we managed to run the clock down with one of the best bits of "up your jumper" play you will ever see. Every ruck was cheered and the noise was amazing. There were also some massive hits, and we completely destroyed their scrum, I think Tim Payne - their loosehead prop is about 2 inches shorter now, and our old boy (vixter) was completely played off the park by Nick Wood.

Very happy now, we are 4 points clear at the top of the Premiership, with no game next week, but then Leicester at home in 2 weeks.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 07:28 PM

View Postjules, on Jan 27 2008, 09:00 AM, said:

Hi Everyone

I hope you all realise we will have to carry on doing this for the rest of the season.

The struggle to assist you will be difficult, but I'm sure we'll manage. I'll even drink extra if necessary.

View Postjules, on Jan 27 2008, 09:00 AM, said:

... It was a bit of a nail bitter though 18-17 in the end 3 sin binnings (1 for us 2 for them) the last 3 minutes we managed to run the clock down with one of the best bits of "up your jumper" play you will ever see.

THAT'S what I mean!!

Close games are awesome!!!

...even better when your team wins, eh?

View Postjules, on Jan 27 2008, 09:00 AM, said:

... There were also some massive hits, and we completely destroyed their scrum, I think Tim Payne - their loosehead prop is about 2 inches shorter now, and our old boy (vixter) was completely played off the park by Nick Wood.

Ahhh, sweet words from the pubs unofficial (or official if you wish) battle vixen. I sit reading this with beer in hand (as promised), and it makes me want to sip faster and pour another.

Pubs, there, must make a fortune during game time.

Good luck to the team, jules!

I'm performing this ritual little bit after-the-fact. Wish I could have done it earlier with everyone else, but my health (and my wife) impose restriction.
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Posted 28 January 2008 - 12:04 AM

Did anyone here follow the Australian Tennis Open? Exciting stuff as the younger breed move up to take centre stage. The Novak Djokovic/Jo-Wilfried Tsonga men's final was classy and hard and while the women's final wasn't such a close encounter it was particularly nice to watch. (I'm not being sexist, it's my raging hormones that made me say it.)

I must say it's fun following these major sports events on tv when they are played in a similar time-zone.

Now one of our local news sites, stuff, is telling us that the police will crack down on crowds getting pissed at the international rugby sevens here later this week. This is a cut-down version of rugby that is played by serious professionals but the games attract massive partying crowds, many of them not so much interested in the sport as having fun. Most people go in fancy dress, get pissed and get loud. It's a riot and I don't think they'll be taking notice of the police.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 02:10 PM

Hi Nomis, I also really like sevens I think one of our boys will probably be playing for England, Jack Adams, he plays in the centre in the 15 man game, James Bailey may also be involved. That does not sound good about the police cracking down though sevens is a great laugh, its a bit like the 20/20 cricket games. Although they do have fancy dress days at the Test matches too, one year at Headingley I sat next to a very drunk man dressed as a carrot!

Yes Woodman the pubs do make a fortune before and after the game, during the game, they have people going round with back packs full of beer, which is especially good for the shed because its standing you can't get out to get a beer.

Kingsholm is great for Atmosphere, and we generally have a large contingent of travelling fans whenever we are away. A few years ago in the European Challenge cup we played Bucharesti in Romania and we took 500 fans. It was quite entertaining apparently they only usually get a few people to watch and the very small club bar only had a hundred cans of beer and they had sold out in minutes of the first people arriving. The guy running the bar ended up going to the local cash and carry to buy as much beer as he could fit in his van, which we very proudly finished.

If you type in Gloucester Rugby on youtube you will see some very good tries.
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Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:19 PM

A drunken carrot, Jules. Yeah, I think you're safe with that.

The police are getting even heavier with their prematch verbals. They've now banned the wearing of the Borat swim suit. It's a massive flag wave to up the game so we're expecting even more outrageous and skimpy outfits. Already, I'm hearing of people wearing flesh covered body suits with the Borat pouch.
The footy is going to have to be pretty outstanding to get any attention away from the party.
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 04:37 AM

View Postnomis, on Jan 28 2008, 05:19 PM, said:

A drunken carrot, Jules. Yeah, I think you're safe with that.

The police are getting even heavier with their prematch verbals. They've now banned the wearing of the Borat swim suit. It's a massive flag wave to up the game so we're expecting even more outrageous and skimpy outfits. Already, I'm hearing of people wearing flesh covered body suits with the Borat pouch.
The footy is going to have to be pretty outstanding to get any attention away from the party.


Just a funny story. Went shopping the other day and some guy came over to me and asked if could demonstrate a sneaker cleaner product. He was serious. I said are you serious does it look like my sneakers ever hit the ground. There still brand new and so outdated. Out of style loooooonnnng time ago. Didn't know here to post this....sorry

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 01:03 PM

Hi Nomis

I thought you would appreciate this, as I explained before "The Shed" at Kingsholm is notorious for "sledging" of a sort towards the opposition team and ref. The usual chant to the ref is "you don't know what you're doing" and a few years ago we played Leicester in an evening kick off and everyone managed to put Austin Healy (England International) off by chanting wiggy at him (he had a hair transplant, and then advertised it!). On Saturday we managed to surpass even that - Danny Cipriani the Wasps fly half (and rival to Ryan Lamb for England when Jonny retires) had an unfortunate incident with a transvestite which was well publisised in the press. The pre match warm up music on saturday consisted of - Dude looks like a lady, Its raining men and Girls and boys, much to everyones amusement.
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Posted 30 January 2008 - 02:32 AM

View PostMotor, on Jan 28 2008, 06:37 PM, said:

Just a funny story. Went shopping the other day and some guy came over to me and asked if could demonstrate a sneaker cleaner product. He was serious. I said are you serious does it look like my sneakers ever hit the ground. There still brand new and so outdated. Out of style loooooonnnng time ago. Didn't know here to post this....sorry

:)

Motor,

Lots of A/B people do not know what will help, but feel compelled to to assist. I guess I can understand that as if I were back to normal, I would want to do everything I could to help others who were once like me.

Try not to bite their heads off. There are freaks who actually deserve it, but when you bite back you just end up making yourself (and others like you) look bad.

It's a shitty position to be in, but you are stuck in a place where you will be called upon to summon a more definitively passive and understanding response.

I just got through baiting you about NY vs Chicago pizza; something no New Yorker would EVER let go unanswered, and you just let it slide, so I suggest you use this same zen when offered such assistance.

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BTY, you can post pretty much anything you want in pub thread.
What the hell!
It's a pub!

Edited by woodman, 30 January 2008 - 02:37 AM.


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Posted 30 January 2008 - 02:56 AM

View Postjules, on Jan 29 2008, 03:03 AM, said:

... Danny Cipriani the Wasps fly half (and rival to Ryan Lamb for England when Jonny retires) had an unfortunate incident with a transvestite which was well publisised in the press. The pre match warm up music on saturday consisted of - Dude looks like a lady, Its raining men and Girls and boys, much to everyones amusement.

LMAO!

I love it.

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That''ll teach you not to post in the sex forum, eh.

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 05:18 AM

yeah, great stuff Jules. The Shed isn't taking prisoners. Some visitors must dread playing kingsholm.
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Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:24 AM

Most teams really dislike playing Gloucester at Kingsholm, we are unbeaten there in 21 matches (all last season and so far this season). The Shed is notoriously loud and one eyed, however unlike at football there is no crowd segregation so if they can get there early enough (about 2 hours before kick off to get a good place) then away fans are welcome.

We've got a week off this weekend, I am off to Twickenham to watch England v Wales hoping for an England win but you never know, plus if Wales win my Dad will be gloating for the next year.

I'm off on a modelling shoot this afternoon, but it's in Tewkesbury (which floods every winter, and even really badly in the summer last year) and we are on a flood warning here in Gloucester (just downstream) so I might need some wellies or a boat to get home.

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:28 PM

Life aint boring around you.
Watch that water - wear water wings.
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Posted 31 January 2008 - 05:25 PM

I made it back, luckily this time the flood planes are doing their jobs, but it isn't going to take much more rain for us all to be sand bagging again. It does look quite spectacular though, I think the river Severn is about a mile wide all the way from Tewkesbury to Gloucester. Here is a picture of what happened to us in July, the car park where the picture is taken is next to Gloucester Quay, where there is normally a 5 metre drop to the riverside.

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:00 PM

View Postjules, on Jan 31 2008, 07:25 AM, said:

... it isn't going to take much more rain for us all to be sand bagging again. It does look quite spectacular though ...
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While I am comfortably certain that your flood plains are much wider than ours, here, I know what you mean.

During heavy rains two years ago, a dam broke on Kauai and 7 people were killed. There was also a massive sewage spill (millions of gallons of raw sewage) into the Ala Wai Canal which empties directly into Waikiki Beach.


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BTW, Jules, I'm trying to start a new career by establishing myself as the world's first plus-size, disabled, male underwear-model for the over 40 crowd; unfortunately, I find myself falling victim to widespread discrimination in the modeling industry.

Do you have any friends with pull in the modeling business?
I hope so, otherwise I might find it necessary to retain a labor lawyer and file a legal complaint citing violation of the ADA (American's with Disabilities Act).

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 12:46 AM

woodman,

1 Bourbon, 1 Scotch and 1 beer, while I think of a way to Jinx the GOD DAMN PATRIOTS this Sunday.......

My internal Hard Drive is on life support, I have to boot up every other day with my Windows XP Pro installation disk, run chkdsk...... Then she's good to go for a couple more days..... Got a brand new one ready to install, but I've been too busy.......

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 06:29 AM

View PostIllinois Boy, on Jan 31 2008, 02:46 PM, said:

woodman,

1 Bourbon, 1 Scotch and 1 beer, while I think of a way to Jinx the GOD DAMN PATRIOTS this Sunday.......

My internal Hard Drive is on life support, I have to boot up every other day with my Windows XP Pro installation disk, run chkdsk...... Then she's good to go for a couple more days..... Got a brand new one ready to install, but I've been too busy.......

:toast: Jim

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 10:37 AM

I like it woodman! You should start up your own agency :toast: I have done quite a bit of modelling - it is really good fun - not something I would have been able to do before my accident though (I'm only 5'1". I have done catwalk work and quite a bit of photographic work, it is only for a bit of fun though (although the money is good) my real job is a scientist - people always think I'm joking when I say that - because people think scientists should be middle aged men with beards and glasses!
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Posted 02 February 2008 - 04:28 AM

I like the idea of a pint-size part-time model young woman without a beard as a scientist. What kind of science do you do?
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Posted 02 February 2008 - 12:02 PM

I am a biomedical scientist and I work in Cellular pathology at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital. Cellular pathology is looking at Cells in both tissues and fluids in order to diagnose disease. I have got a BSc, and I'm currently waiting for the results of my masters degree, which I have done part time whilst working.

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 12:49 PM

Jules,

The mortality rate for people in your profession has soared lately.

http://www.metafilte...microbiologists

After 9/11, microbiologists began dying so frequently that by march of 2002 (only six months later) people were already becoming suspicious.

Here’s a link from May 2002 when the list numbered 11 people.

http://www.chemtrail...TML/000623.html

By 2005, that number had grown, considerably.

What makes it suspicious is not just HOW they died, but when you look at the age of each person on the list, it becomes clear how remarkably few of them made it (or even got close) to average life expectancy.

Nevermind all the conspiricy nuts who attribute this to some grand plan or another.

All I’m saying is that many are dead, and it is very unusual.

If politicians started dying off like this, you just KNOW there would be a massive investigation.



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November 2001: Yaacov Matzner, 54
--Expertise: Dean of the Hebrew University-Hadassah Medical School in Jerusalem and chairman of the Israel Society of Hematology and Blood Transfusions, was the son of Holocaust survivors. One of the world's experts on blood diseases including familiar Mediterranean fever (FMF), Matzner conducted research that led to a genetic test for FMF. He was working on cloning the gene connected to FMF and investigating the normal physiological function of amyloid A, a protein often found in high levels in people with blood cancer.
 
--Circumstances of Death: Professors Yaacov Matzner and Amiram Eldor were on their way back to Israel via Switzerland when their plane came down in dense forest three kilometres short of the landing field.
 
 
November 2001: Professor Amiram Eldor, 59
--Expertise: Head of the haematology institute, Tel Aviv's Ichilov Hospital and worked for years at Hadassah-University Hospital's haematology department but left for his native Tel Aviv in 1993 to head the haematology institute at Ichilov Hospital. He was an internationally known expert on blood clotting especially in women who had repeated miscarriages and was a member of a team that identified eight new anti-clotting agents in the saliva of leeches.
 
--Circumstances of Death: Professors Yaacov Matzner and Amiram Eldor were on their way back to Israel via Switzerland when their plane came down in dense forest three kilometres short of the landing field.
 
 
November 6, 2001: Jeffrey Paris Wall, 41
--Expertise: He was a biomedical expert who held a medical degree, and he also specialized in patent and intellectual property.
 
--Circumstances of Death: Mr. Walls body was found sprawled next to a three-story parking structure near his office. He had studied at the University of California, Los Angeles.
 
 
Nov. 16, 2001: Don C. Wiley, 57
--Expertise: One of the foremost microbiologists in the United States. Dr. Wiley, of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at Harvard University, was an expert on how the immune system responds to viral attacks such as the classic doomsday plagues of HIV, ebola and influenza.
 
--Circumstances of Death: He had just bought tickets to take his son to Graceland the following day. He had just left a banquet for fellow researchers in Memphis. Police found his rental car on a bridge outside Memphis, Tenn. His body was found Dec. 20 in the Mississippi River. his family said he was in perfect health. There was no autopsy. Forensic experts said he may have had a dizzy spell and have fallen off the bridge. Why did he leave the keys in the ignition and his lights on? Why was Wiley´s car facing in the opposite direction from his father´s house, which was only a short distance away?
 
 
Nov. 21, 2001: Vladimir Pasechnik, 64
--Expertise: World-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian defector; defected to the United Kingdom in 1989, played a huge role in Russian biowarfare and helped to figure out how to modify cruise missiles to deliver the agents of mass biological destruction.
--Background: founded Regma Biotechnologies company in Britain, a laboratory at Porton Down, the country´s chem-bio warfare defense establishment. Regma currently has a contract with the U.S. Navy for "the diagnostic and therapeutic treatment of anthrax".
 
--Circumstances of Death: The pathologist who did the autopsy, and who also happened to be associated with Britain´s spy agency, concluded he died of a stroke. Details of the postmortem were not revealed at an inquest, in which the press was given no prior notice. Colleagues who had worked with Pasechnik said he was in good health.
 
 
Dec. 10, 2001: Robert M. Schwartz, 57
--Expertise: Expert in DNA sequencing and pathogenic micro-organisms, founding member of the Virginia Biotechnology Association, and the Executive Director of Research and Development at Virginia´s Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon.
 
--Circumstances of Death: stabbed and slashed with what police believe was a sword in his farmhouse in Leesberg, Va. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and several of her fellow pagans have been charged.
 
 
Dec. 14, 2001: Nguyen Van Set, 44
--Expertise: animal diseases facility of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization had just come to fame for discovering a virulent strain of mousepox, which could be modified to affect smallpox.
 
--Circumstances: died at work in Geelong, Australia, in a laboratory accident. He entered an airlocked storage lab and died from exposure to nitrogen.
 
 
January 2002: Two dead microbiologists: Ivan Glebov and Alexi Brushlinski. Glebov died as the result of a bandit attack and Brushlinski was killed in Moscow. Both were well known around the world and members of the Russian Academy of Science.
 
 
January 28, 2002: David W. Barry, 58
--Expertise: Scientist who codiscovered AZT, the antiviral drug that is considered the first effective treatment for AIDS.
--Circumstances:
 
 
Feb. 9, 2002: Victor Korshunov, 56
--Expertise: Expert in intestinal bacteria of children around the world
 
--Circumstances: bashed over the head near his home in Moscow.
 
 
Feb. 14, 2002: Ian Langford, 40
--Expertise: expert in environmental risks and disease.
 
--Circumstances: found dead in his home near Norwich, England, naked from the waist down and wedged under a chair.
 
 
Feb. 28, 2002: Tanya Holzmayer, 46
--Expertise: a Russian who moved to the U.S. in 1989, focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine.
 
--Circumstances: killed by fellow microbiologist Guyang (Matthew) Huang, who shot her seven times when she opened the door to a pizza delivery. Then he shot himself.
 
 
Feb. 28, 2002: Guyang Huang, 38
--Expertise: Microbiologist
 
--Circumstances: Apparently shot himself after shooting fellow microbiologist, Tanya Holzmayer, seven times.
 
 
March 24, 2002: David Wynn-Williams, 55
--Expertise: Respected astrobiologist with the British Antarctic Survey, who studied the habits of microbes that might survive in outer space.
 
--Circumstances: Died in a freak road accident near his home in Cambridge, England. He was hit by a car while he was jogging.
 
 
March 25, 2002: Steven Mostow, 63
--Expertise: Known as "Dr. Flu" for his expertise in treating influenza, and a noted expert in bioterrorism of the Colorado Health Sciences Centre.
 
--Circumstances: died when the airplane he was piloting crashed near Denver.
 
 
Nov. 12, 2002: Benito Que, 52
--Expertise: Expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School
 
--Circumstances of Death: Que left his laboratory after receiving a telephone call. Shortly afterward he was found comatose in the parking lot of the Miami Medical School. He died without regaining consciousness. Police said he had suffered a heart attack. His family insisted he had been in perfect health and claimed four men attacked him. But, later, oddly, the family inquest returned a verdict of death by natural causes.
 
 
April 2003: Carlo Urbani, 46
--Expertise: A dedicated and internationally respected Italian epidemiologist, who did work of enduring value combating infectious illness around the world.
 
--Circumstances: Died in Bangkok from SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) - the new disease that he had helped to identify. Thanks to his prompt action, the epidemic was contained in Vietnam. However, because of close daily contact with SARS patients, he contracted the infection. On March 11, he was admitted to a hospital in Bangkok and isolated. Less than three weeks later he died.
 
 
June 24, 2003: Dr. Leland Rickman of UCSD, 47
A resident of Carmel Valley
--Expertise: An expert in infectious disease who helped the county prepare to fight bioterrorism after Sept. 11.
 
--Circumstances: He was in the African nation of Lesotho with Dr. Chris Mathews of UCSD, the director of the university's Owen Clinic for AIDS patients. Dr. Rickman had complained of a headache and had gone to lie down. When he didn't appear for dinner, Mathews checked on him and found him dead. A cause has not yet been determined.
 
 
July 18, 2003: Dr. David Kelly, 59
--Expertise: Biological warfare weapons specialist, senior post at the Ministry of Defense, an expert on DNA sequencing when he was head of microbiology at Porton Down
--Helped Vladimir Pasechnik found Regma Biotechnologies, which has a contract with the U.S. Navy for "the diagnostic and therapeutic treatment of anthrax"
--worked with two American scientists, Benito Que, 52, and Don Wiley, 57.
 
--Circumstances: 'Suicide'
 
 
Oct 24, 2003: Michael Perich, 46
--Expertise: LSU professor who helped fight the spread of the West Nile virus. Perich worked with the East Baton Rouge Parish Mosquito Control and Rodent Abatement District to determine whether mosquitoes in the area carried West Nile.
 
--Circumstances: Walker Police Chief Elton Burns said Sunday that Perich of 5227 River Bend Blvd., Baton Rouge, crashed his Ford pickup truck about 4:30 a.m. Saturday, while heading west on Interstate 12 in Livingston Parish. Perich's truck veered right off the highway about 3 miles east of Walker, flipped and landed in rainwater, Burns said. Perich, who was wearing his seat belt, drowned. The cause of the crash is under investigation, Burns said. "Mike is one of the few entomologists with the experience to go out and save lives today." ~ Robert A. Wirtz, chief of entomology at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
 
 
November 22, 2003: Robert Leslie Burghoff, 45
--Expertise: He was studying the virus that was plaguing cruise ships until he was killed by a mysterious white van in November of 2003
 
--Circumstances: Burghoff was walking on a sidewalk along the 1600 block of South Braeswood when a white van jumped the curb and hit him at 1:35 p.m. Thursday, police said. The van then sped away. Burghoff died an hour later at Memorial Hermann Hospital.
 
 
December 18, 2003: Robert Aranosia, 61
--Expertise: Oakland County deputy medical examiner
 
--Circumstances: He was driving south on I-75 when his pickup truck went off the freeway near a bridge over the Kawkawlin River. The vehicle rolled over several times before landing in the median. Aranosia was thrown from the vehicle and ended up on the shoulder of the northbound lanes.
 
 
January 6, 2004: Dr Richard Stevens, 54
--Expertise: A haematologist. (Haematologists analyse the cellular composition of blood and blood producing tissues eg bone marrow)
 
--Circumstances: Disappeared after arriving for work on 21 July, 2003. A doctor whose disappearance sparked a national manhunt, killed himself because he could not cope with the stress of a secret affair, a coroner has ruled.
 
 
January 23 2004: Dr. Robert E. Shope, 74
--Expertise: An expert on viruses who was the principal author of a highly publicized 1992 report by the National Academy of Sciences warning of the possible emergence of new and unsettling infectious illnesses. Dr. Shope had accumulated his own collection of virus samples gathered from all over the world.
 
--Circumstances: The cause was complications of a lung transplant he received in December, said his daughter Deborah Shope of Galveston. Dr. Shope had pulmonary fibrosis, a disease of unknown origin that scars the lungs.
 
 
January 24 2004: Dr. Michael Patrick Kiley, 62
--Expertise: Ebola, Mad Cow Expert, top of the line world class.
 
--Circumstances: Died of massive heart attack. Coincidently, both Dr. Shope and Dr. Kiley were working on the lab upgrade to BSL 4 at the UTMB Galvaston lab for Homeland Security. The lab would have to be secure to house some of the deadliest pathogens of tropical and emerging infectious disease as well as bioweaponized ones.
 
 
April 12, 2004: Ilsley Ingram, 84
--Expertise: Director of the Supraregional Haemophilia Reference Centre and the Supraregional Centre for the Diagnosis of Bleeding Disorders at the St. Thomas Hospital in London.
 
--Circumstances: unknown
 
 
May 14, 2004: Dr. Eugene F. Mallove, 56
--Expertise: Mallove was well respected for his knowledge of cold fusion. He had just published an open letter outlining the results of and reasons for his last 15 years in the field of new energy research. Dr. Mallove was convinced it was only a matter of months before the world would actually see a free energy device.
 
--Circumstances: Died after being beaten to death during an alleged robbery.
 
 
May 25, 2004: Antonina Presnyakova
--Expertise: Former Soviet biological weapons laboratory in Siberia
 
--Circumstances: Died after accidentally sticking herself with a needle laced with Ebola.
 
 
June 22, 2004: Thomas Gold, 84
--Expertise: He was the founder, and for twenty years the director, of the Cornell Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, where he was a close colleague of Planetary Society co-founder Carl Sagan. Gold was famous for his provocative, controversial, and sometimes outrageous theories. Gold's theory of the deep hot biosphere holds important ramifications for the possibility of life on other planets, including seemingly inhospitable planets within our own solar system. Gold sparked controversy in 1955 when he suggested that the Moon's surface is covered with a fine rock powder.
 
--Circumstances: Died of heart failure.
 
 
June 24, 2004: Dr. Assefa Tulu, 45
--Expertise: Dr. Tulu joined the health department in 1997 and served for five years as the county's lone epidemiologist. He was charged with tracking the health of the county, including the spread of diseases, such as syphilis, AIDS and measles. He also designed a system for detecting a bioterrorism attack involving viruses or bacterial agents. Tulu often coordinated efforts to address major health concerns in Dallas County, such as the West Nile virus outbreaks of the past few years, and worked with the media to inform the public.
 
--Circumstances: Dallas County's chief epidemiologist, was found at his desk, died of a stroke.
 
 
June 27, 2004: Dr Paul Norman, Of Salisbury, Wiltshire, 52
--Expertise: He was the chief scientist for chemical and biological defence at the Ministry of Defence's laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire.
 
--Circumstances: He was killed when the single-engine Cessna 206 he was piloting crashed in Devon on Sunday. A father and daughter also died at the scene, and 44-year-old parachute instructor and Royal Marine Major Mike Wills later died in hospital.
 
 
June 29, 2004: John Mullen, 67
--Expertise: A nuclear research scientist with McDonnell Douglas.
 
--Circumstances: Died from a huge dose of poisonous arsenic.
 
 
July 1, 2004: Edward Hoffman, 62
--Expertise: Aside from his role as a professor, Hoffman held leadership positions within the UCLA medical community. Worked to develop the first human PET scanner in 1973 at Washington University in St. Louis.
 
--Circumstances: unknown
 
 
July 2, 2004: Larry Bustard, 53
--Expertise: A Sandia scientist who helped develop a foam spray to clean up congressional buildings and media sites during the anthrax scare in 2001. Worked at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque. His team came up with a new technology used against biological and chemical agents.
 
--Circumstances: unknown
 
 
July 3, 2004: Dr Paul Norman, 52
--Expertise: The chief scientist for chemical and biological defence at the Ministry of Defence's laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire
 
--Circumstances: He was killed when the single-engine Cessna 206 he was piloting crashed in Devon.
 
 
July 6, 2004: Stephen Tabet, 42
--Expertise: An associate professor and epidemiologist at the University of Washington. A world-renowned HIV doctor and researcher who worked with HIV patients in a vaccine clinical trial for the HIV Vaccine Trials Network.
 
--Circumstances: Died of an unknown illness
 
 
July 21, 2004: Dr Bassem al-Mudares
--Expertise: He was a phD chemist
 
--Circumstances: His mutilated body was found in the city of Samarra, Iraq and had been tortured before being killed.
 
 
August 12, 2004: Professor John Clark
--Expertise: Head of the science lab which created Dolly the sheep. Prof Clark led the Roslin Institute in Midlothian, one of the world's leading animal biotechnology research centres. He played a crucial role in creating the transgenic sheep that earned the institute worldwide fame.
 
--Circumstances: He was found hanging in his holiday home.
 
 
September 5, 2004: Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani
--Expertise: Iraqi nuclear scientist. He was a practising nuclear physicist since 1984.
 
--Circumstances: He was shot dead in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad.
 
 
November 2, 2004: John R. La Montagne
--Expertise: Head of US Infectious Diseases unit under Tommie Thompson. Was NIAID Deputy Director.
 
--Circumstances: Died while in Mexico, no cause stated.
 
 
December 29, 2004: Tom Thorne and Beth Williams
--Expertise: Two wild life scientists, Husband-and-wife wildlife veterinarians who were nationally prominent experts on chronic wasting disease and brucellosis
 
--Circumstances: They were killed in a snowy-weather crash on U.S. 287 in northern Colorado.
 
 
December 21, 2004: Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher
--Expertise: Iraqi nuclear scientist
 
--Circumstances: He was shot dead north of Baghdad by unknown gunmen. He was on his way to
work at Diyala University when armed men opened fire on his car as it was crossing a bridge in Baqouba, 57 km northeast of Baghdad. The vehicle swerved off the bridge and fell into the Khrisan river. Al-Daher, who was a professor at the local university, was removed from the submerged car and rushed to Baqouba hospital where he was pronounced dead.
 
 
January 7, 2005: Jeong H. Im, 72
--Expertise: A retired research assistant professor at the University of Missouri-Columbia. Primarily a protein chemist.
 
--Circumstances: He was stabbed several times and his body was found in the trunk of his burning white, 1995 Honda inside the Maryland Avenue parking garage.
 
Thanks to Steve Quayle for the latest additions to this file.
 
 

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 11:16 PM

WAAAOT!!!
Anything positive to add?
"It's the notion that there is no perfection ~ that this is a broken world and we live with broken hearts and broken lives but still that is no alibi for anything. On the contrary, you have to stand up and say hallelujah under those circumstances. " - Leonard Cohen

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 11:27 PM

My gawd Jules, England downed by Wales. I thought it was a shocker for the sevens to salvage only the loser-loser plate but how did the 15s misfire so badly.
Wales must have an inspirational coach - who is he? Oh that's right, Warren Gatland from NZ.


What a full-on life you must have. You're a treasure. I'm so pleased that you managed to fit a spinal injury into your full life so we can get to share some of you. All the best for the masters and the doors that will open.
"It's the notion that there is no perfection ~ that this is a broken world and we live with broken hearts and broken lives but still that is no alibi for anything. On the contrary, you have to stand up and say hallelujah under those circumstances. " - Leonard Cohen

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:34 AM

View Postnomis, on Feb 2 2008, 01:16 PM, said:

WAAAOT!!!
Anything positive to add?
Lots of possibility for career advancement.

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:29 PM

I can't believe England were so bad - at least it's not too bad for me, I'm half taff anyway, so my Dad was a very happy boy yesterday (he successfully found his way over the Severn Bridge as a young child), so I was always brought up with both Wales and England and always had both shirts. We also had England U20 v Wales U20 at Kingsholm on Friday night which was excellent, I'm more worried about what this weekend has meant for Gloucester - Tindall got injured yesterday, Ryan Lamb got injured on Friday playing for England A, we have got Leicester next weekend and at the moment we won't have a fly half. Patterson will be with Scotland, Willy Walker (ex highlanders) will be needed at full back, because Balshaw will be with England and Olly Morgan is injured.

As for my career, I think I am quite safe at Gloucester Royal - we're not particularly cutting edge, although I have just been asked to speak at a really big conference in March the speech is on my MSc dissertation - "Cross species reactivity in immunocytochemistry" basically I used slightly altered human anitbodies to try and diagnose disease in pets, and apparently we were the first people in the world to try this.
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Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:50 PM

Hey , everyone drinks are one me . my seatbelt suit just settled . I didn't get as much as I had hoped for but I did ok if I manage it right. My life is about to change alot but I plan to stay in touch with the forum "gang" and still plan a fishing trip before to long . I'll post a "sign-up " sheet for the field trip. For now I'm looking at house add on and mods. , a new hot rod truck a new chair or 2 , a boat , and a Disney trip for my kids. Oh , and I may pay some old bills .LOL
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Posted 03 February 2008 - 07:22 PM

View Postdave420atya, on Feb 3 2008, 02:50 AM, said:

Hey , everyone drinks are one me . my seatbelt suit just settled . I didn't get as much as I had hoped for but I did ok if I manage it right. My life is about to change alot but I plan to stay in touch with the forum "gang" and still plan a fishing trip before to long . I'll post a "sign-up " sheet for the field trip. For now I'm looking at house add on and mods. , a new hot rod truck a new chair or 2 , a boat , and a Disney trip for my kids. Oh , and I may pay some old bills .LOL

Word of advice, Dave, if I'm allowed to drop a mental turd on the matter.


1.) Consider yourself your own worst enemy when it comes to spending the money; doesn't matter if you're spending it on an investment, either.

Get someone else to manage it, and allow yourself only supervisory role in maintaining it.

2.) Look for financial advisors who get paid by the hour, then hit them up for advice and pay them.

This is a lot better than paying commissions to some bastard who will spend your money on investments which may not necessarily pan out.
That f*ucker still gets paid even if you lose money. F*UCK THAT!

There's me 2 cents.

Thanks for the drink!




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