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#91 wheeels

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 05:20 PM

My goto ski's are a 174 I have some 192's but they are fat and for powder if I ever get any "please let it snow".

I think the 192 should be fine after a few runs they should rail really well, and you might carve right into a tree but then at least you are trying :ohmy:

I don't have my schedule for the trip out to Park City I will pm you when I find out and see if you can give me a tour around.

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 01:16 PM

Here is Tahoe, CA, Northstar at Tahoe and Sierra at Tahoe (same company, different mountain) has a great deal for disabled skiers. The Double Wammy season pass that applies to both mountains is only $99 per season. This year is the first year they offer it but its a great deal. Companion tickets are $25 which is awesome for wife or friends. I always cut the lines, I hate having to wait and push behind a line, it gets too tiring.

I haven't been to the snow since New Years day, I'm due to hit the slopes.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 05:14 PM

I mounted the bindings on my new/used Volkls last night. This binding is mounted to the integrated rail and plate that sits about 1.5 inches above the ski. This will work, but my concern is that the plate that the bindings mount to is plastic. How strong is this type of mount.

I can just picture myself getting jettisoned from my ski while doing an "endo," with the binding getting ripped out from the plastic plate!

PS: How bout those guys on ESPN, last weekend during the Xtreme Games? They ripped!

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 06:12 PM

I talked about that plate issue with some of the guys I was skiing with a few weeks ago, we thought about using a plate as that would allow some movement of the bucket forward and back.

We figured that the force would be too great unless you screwed right through the plate into the ski, I have be ejected from a 20din binding and can only imagine what would happen if the plate gave out before the binding did.

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 04:05 AM

i think the rails are strong enough but you can get a really high din binding on that rail system but a buddy used a marker 30 on a vokl AC4 by getting a aluminium plate made up and flat mounting to the aluminium with machine screws.

I have said it before and will say it again. that is it really hard to find anything that comes close to the marker 30 for a sit ski.

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 06:14 AM

View Postqman, on Feb 6 2010, 04:05 AM, said:

i think the rails are strong enough but you can get a really high din binding on that rail system but a buddy used a marker 30 on a vokl AC4 by getting a aluminium plate made up and flat mounting to the aluminium with machine screws.

I have said it before and will say it again. that is it really hard to find anything that comes close to the marker 30 for a sit ski.

The aluminum plate is a real good idea, or at least get fender washers for the back side of the plastic plate. If the rails are stout, than its just a matter of reinforcing the plate.

I'll be checking it out tomorrow and go from there. One thing that I've learned in sit skiing, and watching it on TV, we're just test pilots. Its only through its failures and our attempts to correct it that it will get better in design and how we ski.

Lets face it, we're a minority.

Pete

PS: I have not found any 30 din bindings on the internet, or from any source that has heard of such a high din. Marker, or any other binding...Qman, do you have a source that I can tap into?

Edited by Pete Anderson, 06 February 2010 - 06:15 AM.


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Posted 06 February 2010 - 09:39 AM

best to chat directly to marker distributor in your area. fortunately they have pretty close ties to our local shop so they were easy to get.

i cant imagine any AB skier needing anything over 20 din. so they are a bit of overkill but great for sit ski

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 09:31 PM

i had a look on the internet and couldnt find any marker comp 30s listed only the marker comp 20s. maybe they dont make them now.
but i also know a guy who was a pro free skier and he cant sell any of his kit cause of the high din bindings so it would pay to ask around pros and racers.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 09:33 PM

I tried out my new/used Volkl P40, F1 193 cm skis yesterday.

The turns were fairly quick to initiate despite the length of the ski. It really was awesome to finally go down some steep, icey slopes with some bumps and have the ability to really dig an edge into the hill without having the ski wash out. This had always caused me to wipe out. It was liberating, because it opened up new, more challenging slopes.

Before my accident these runs were no problem while skiing on my Rossi's 124 Cut. But mounting this very same ski on my Praschberger, proved to be worthless in any other condition than a gradual, groomed run and no ice. I felt that I finally had full control. No fear! (Okay, maybe some fear).

I do need to beef up the binding, as mentioned before, due to the additional forces applied while sit skiing. A stiff racing skiing really did wonders for my skiing ability, or lack of it... :angry2:

To be continued...

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 01:48 AM

;-)

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:26 AM

Thought I'd share... I'm ordering my Revolution Pro Comp from Freedom Factory this week. This season, I've been riding a borrowed Yeti with an Atomic racing ski and a Salomon something or other (that popped off while getting off the chair lift today, yikes). A friend of mine said he's riding Volkl with his mono and loving it. The big fat powder ski Volkl is making (the Kuro) is apparently awesome. I'm not a big fan of the Salomon but it was free. Liked the Atomic a lot, the DIN was... 18, if I recall. I'd really like to try a Volkl ski out, I've heard only good things about them.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:53 PM

I had a small fall this weekend, used my face to slow it down I look a little beat up this morning.

This was from my third run of the day, but kept on skiing.

Note I have a 20din binding on this ski and it never came off.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 07:05 PM

this is definetly the best one i have found.


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Posted 08 February 2010 - 10:41 PM

View Postwheeels, on Feb 8 2010, 04:53 PM, said:

I had a small fall this weekend, used my face to slow it down I look a little beat up this morning.


That's using your head...Sorry, I had to say it.

Keep me posted on your Park City trip...

Pete

PS: I fell a lot this past Saturday. It got to the point where I would just lay there waiting for someone to come by and pickup my sorry ass carcass from the mountain. I didn't want to waste my precious energy needlessly. :dunno:

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:35 PM

Falls are part of the learning curve! Look at this way, even the best downhill racers in the world have falls :-) I'm heading out to Mammoth to ski in March. For ski travel, this is the number one place I'd recommend in North America. Amazing town with amazing people.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 10:28 AM

my best crash was carving hard turns, clipped an outrigger and spun backwards at speed, tail dug in, complete pole vault over the tail of the ski, and complete flip to hip check. broken ski and broken rig.

there was a guy skiing behind me with a video camera pointed at me. but found out later that he had failed to turn it on properly.

bummer

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 05:14 PM

Chicks dig scars...

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 05:24 AM

I'm going skiing tomorrow with the spouse at Snowbasin. We haven't skied together since my accident. I haven't told her yet that the table has turned and now she's got to help me...Hee, hee.

Snowbasin is generally $66 per ticket, but with the adaptive ski program, its half price for me, and free for the helper...got I love it here in Utah!

Its funny. When I call in advance regarding the price of ski tickets, there's a "Ha, humm, let me see. Hold on for a minute," at every resort that I've called. Its always a happy ending, but this just tells me we're only a few out there taking advantage of the skiing potential for ourselves and our "helpers."

I really believe that we're the pioneers in this sport and the result will be better equipment at a better price eventually. Time will tell...It always does.

Have fun at Mammoth Twisted Sister, Mimi, and Ophelia :) I've skied there and flown my hang glider there. Its definitely God's country! There are a lot of hidden natural hot springs off the highway there in the Owens Valley...Good times! (Times that I would never tell my wife about. Maybe when I'm eighty and I'm done with life).

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 05:50 AM

View PostPete Anderson, on Feb 11 2010, 06:14 AM, said:

Chicks dig scars...


mine is 10" long, my scar that is ;-)

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 03:01 AM

I think you have the metric and inch conversion mixed up. I know you intended to say 10 cm. That's okay. We still accept you as you are despite your "short" comings...hee, hee.

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 03:07 AM

I went skiing on Friday with my lovely wife. We spent the day on the green runs, and of course I had to venture off and go into some ravines just to spice things up.

After seeing the X-Games on ESPN, I started to take some small jumps. Its exciting, but I'm not certain how much a sit ski can withstand without damaging it. I really don't care if I break a ski, but damaging the Praschberger would definitely be a bummer.

Do you guys take jumps? What do you recommend, or not recommend regarding doing bumps and jumps and equipment to use, etc.

Thanks!

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:27 PM

go for it. the rigs are pretty good really but andy campbell and VJ have both broken Praschbergers pushing hard but they are pushing pretty hard.

i think the strongest rig for that sort of stuff is the Brambles sit ski, but i Andy has done some pretty hardcore jumps on a prasch, including breaking his fimur in the x games.

youtube xgames monoskier x and see some action. also check out
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 11:32 PM

I have jumped and crashed my prasch, and it has held up well so far.

As far as doing jumps if you can decrease the recoil on the shock, you want it to come up slowly and not get bounced around, also go faster then you think you need I have found the shock will absorb some speed hitting the bigger jumps causing me to come up short and have some not very nice crashes.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:28 AM

View PostPete Anderson, on Feb 12 2010, 05:24 AM, said:

I'm going skiing tomorrow with the spouse at Snowbasin. We haven't skied together since my accident. I haven't told her yet that the table has turned and now she's got to help me...Hee, hee.

That's the same thing I tell my wife.

I feel sort of late to the party on this thread, but I'll jump in anyway, b/c you guys are talking about my home town (Park City).

I took sitski lessons last year at Park City (National Ability Center), and Big Sky MT (where my avatar photo came from), but with the last fusion still fresh....I can only watch it snow and grumble.
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 04:05 AM

Ok Park City peeps, I am coming down for a trip and want to get some skiing in during the mornings as I have other training in the afternoon, I will be down from March 2nd - 6th.

What kink of discount do they offer adaptive folks?

If you are around I could use a tour.

Thanks Brian

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 10:59 AM

On the topic of high DIN bindings for sit-skis, I personally have a Tyrolia race binding that has been modified. The toe spring has been removed and replaced with a aluminium tube so that the toe won't release. The rear has had a custom nylon block fitted to it so that it won't release either. The tech guys at NSCD at Winter Park were kind enough to do both of these for me. The way I see it there's not a huge advantage to having the binding release at all. The only time it's an advantage for me is if I completely miss-load a chair lift and end up in the pit! But if that happens, chances are I'll snap the ski anyway!

The whole point of bindings releasing is to save the legs of able-bodied skiers. Am I wrong in saying that it's not really an issue for us sit-skiers?

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 04:38 PM

I cant think of anytime I would want the binding to release and have only had it happen twice both times I was cartwheeling down a hill at high speed.

I have a 20din that has not been modified just crank it up to the max din and off I go.

The two times the binding did release I am not sure a modified binding would have helped out to much.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 05:54 PM

View Postwheeels, on Feb 25 2010, 05:05 AM, said:

Ok Park City peeps, I am coming down for a trip and want to get some skiing in during the mornings as I have other training in the afternoon, I will be down from March 2nd - 6th.

What kink of discount do they offer adaptive folks?

If you are around I could use a tour.

Thanks Brian

I honestly don't know about discounts at the resorts.

Pete could answer that one.

I took sitski lessons last year through an adaptive center here in town and it included my pass and one for my wife to go out with us.

Where are you staying?
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 06:15 PM

I believe that I am staying at the National Ability Center, so I think that I can get some lift passes there but not really sure yet.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 06:28 PM

View Postwheeels, on Feb 25 2010, 07:15 PM, said:

I believe that I am staying at the National Ability Center, so I think that I can get some lift passes there but not really sure yet.

I'm pretty sure you can.

They're a great group.

I took my sitski lessons from them, and know a few of the people who work/volunteer there through church, schools, gym, etc.

Dale, their CEO used to be a gym buddy of mine.

He and his (then) GF used to train with my trainer the hour just before me.

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