[ajcookie]

Hi

I'm looking at getting a new backrest for my Quickie Ti. I'm fed up with stretched standard upholstery, and tension adjustable ones just seem to put to much pressure on my back at the top strap (my backrest is only about 10" high from the cushion)

Has anyone tried the Jay Xtreme or Varilite Talon backs?

Jay Xtreme

Varilite Talon

[TimRS]

I know what you mean. The top strap on the tension adj. back of my TiLite is knackered. I'll be interested to see the response. I'd often seen backs like the Xtreme, and assumed that they were for people who needed a lot of support in some way.

Tim

[nomis]

I've got two chairs with rigid backs, a Jay2 and a fibrecarbon JetstreamPro. They are slightly higher than the type you're looking at but otherwise much the same.

I love mine. It's improved my posture which is important long term. And I reckon it's also more efficient in pushing the wheels. You get a more positive response when moving the chair.

Initially, I had to get used to the new balance, both of my sitting position and handling the chair. That didn't take long. It adds slightly to the weight which can be a consideration loading into a car but that's never been a problem for me. It's one more thing on the chair that can go wrong but mine have been remarkably reliable over about 6 years (for the Jay).

[silone74]

Hi check out this site they have some nice stuff
http://accessibledes....com/index.html

Silone74

[Texaswheelz]

silone74, on Mar 17 2008, 05:05 PM, said:

Hi check out this site they have some nice stuff
http://accessibledes....com/index.html

Silone74

yea that's where the carbon fiber jet stream pro that nomis came from i believe, i have one also and it's great and light weight, which is much better then my old custom back cushion.

[Motor]

Texaswheelz, on Mar 17 2008, 09:02 PM, said:

silone74, on Mar 17 2008, 05:05 PM, said:

Hi check out this site they have some nice stuff
http://accessibledes....com/index.html

Silone74

yea that's where the carbon fiber jet stream pro that nomis came from i believe, i have one also and it's great and light weight, which is much better then my old custom back cushion.

I use a jayback and love it. I am changing the actual cushion to get more lumbar support.

Richie

[silone74]

I think your right the same back as roho sell but i am not sure about a price difference, if you guy's have them and they are great i may order 1 i was talking to the sales team at ADI and they ship to the uk i was just unsure how good they would be as i have to keep tightening the straps on my current back rest the carbon back looks ideal.


Silone74

[KimAndSophie]

silone74, on Mar 17 2008, 05:05 PM, said:

Hi check out this site they have some nice stuff
http://accessibledes....com/index.html

Silone74

I have one of these. It's great! I got mine made to a custom height and had no problems with them whatsoever. I tried getting the Jetstream Pro back from Roho (which is made by ADI and sold by Roho as the Jetstream Pro) and they would not allow Roho products to be shipped out of the US. If I bought the Jetstream Pro back in Canada it would have cost almost double what it do in the US and we only have ONE supplier that is allowed to supply Roho products to every medical supply dealer in Canada. He couldn't get the backs so they tried selling me a demo for $500! I said no and got a brand new custom height ADI backrest for the regular cost and it turned out great. If your not in the US I'd recommend skipping Roho alltogether and going straight to ADI. (Funny how they are in the US and when I mentioned that Roho wouldn't allow their backrest to be shipped out of the US the people at ADI had no idea!)



Anyway, my posture is so much better, and they are really well made and well padded.

[Texaswheelz]

the jet stream carbon back is pretty damn nice, when i first got it i moved it up and down every few days until i got it where i wanted it and then tightened it down, hasn't slid or moved a hair since. It gives great support and the light weight of it almost makes it unnoticable when lifting the chair in and out of the car.

Here is a good close up of mine from when i got my chair almost a year ago, can't beat the looks although i have thought of sticking a few cool stickers on the back of it.

[TimRS]

The more I see of this back, the more I like it. It's funny how these things work out. It's only after reading this post that I realised that my back pain issue might not be just one of those things that goes with being 6 feet 2 and sitting down all day, but something that could be improved with a more suitable product.

Dontcha just love Apparelyzed?

[Doppleganger]

silone74, on Mar 18 2008, 02:27 PM, said:

i was talking to the sales team at ADI and they ship to the uk

Hi Si, keep us updated if you go ahead and order as I'm looking to order myself one after payday.

How much have the quoted for shipping?



- Andy

[silone74]

Hi i was looking at a few things from them so got the shipping for the lot but i will ask how much the shipping would be for just the back on its own and will keep you posted on what they say.



Silone74

[Texaswheelz]

KimAndSophie, on Mar 18 2008, 10:52 AM, said:

(Funny how they are in the US and when I mentioned that Roho wouldn't allow their backrest to be shipped out of the US the people at ADI had no idea!)

That's because ROHO is a company in it to make money more then anything else, they want you to go through their channels and their 1 rep in the country. ADI is a guy in a wheelchair in Texas working out of his shop making this stuff and while he does want to make money, he also wants people to have his stuff, i wish I could have gone through ADI instead of ROHO to get mine, but i wasn't paying for it.

This post has been edited by Texaswheelz: 19 March 2008 - 02:28 PM

[edlee]

I can't say for sure, but my guess is that it has more to do with liability insurance than Roho's lack of humanity.

Roho makes such popular products that going worldwide would make them a ton,,,,except that expansion of production normally decreases quality. Something they don't seem willing to accept.

I'm not privy to any inside info,,, just a satisfied customer.
ed

[nomis]

I don't understand the statement that ROHO don't ship out of America. I'm in New Zealand where I got my JetStreamPro back and there's heaps of ROHO products on the market here.

[KimAndSophie]

nomis, on Mar 20 2008, 07:11 PM, said:

I don't understand the statement that ROHO don't ship out of America. I'm in New Zealand where I got my JetStreamPro back and there's heaps of ROHO products on the market here.

When I tried ordering a Roho Jetstream Pro backrest from Sportaid they told me that Roho wouldn't let them ship any of their products out of the US and that if they did Roho wouldn't let them distrubute Roho proiducts anymore. The only way to get Roho products outside the US is to get them from the distributers in the country you are from. In Canada there is only ONE distrubuter that Roho has approved. But they couldn't supply the medical supply company that I tried getting the backrest from in Canada with it because they had to supply EVERY company that sold them in Canada with the products. I called ADI and spoke to them and they said that they made the backrest that Roho is selling as the Jetstream Pro. I got my backrest dirctly from ADI with no problem at all. They shipped it from the US and when I told the girl there that I was having problems getting the backrest from Roho and told her what Sportaid and another couple of places told me about them not shipping the backrest out of the US she hadn't known that Roho wasn't shipping out of the US and said she would be looking into it further.

Here's a picture of my backrest.

This post has been edited by KimAndSophie: 20 March 2008 - 11:31 PM

[nomis]

OK, thanks. They're available through our local agent. These marketing ploys of protecting agents are frustrating. They push up prices and reduce decent service. You'd think the anti-competition laws would prevent it.

[Doppleganger]

KimAndSophie, on Mar 21 2008, 12:18 AM, said:

The only way to get Roho products outside the US is to get them from the distributers in the country you are from. In Canada there is only ONE distrubuter that Roho has approved.

I'm in the same boat as you were. In Sweden there is only distributor for Roho, however they don't stock this back so now i'm stuck as I would like to have tried the back before buying as i'm not sure if to get the low back or the high back.

[graphic]

I like the idea of the extra support a Jetstream Pro backrest gives, but I have one question. How do you stop your seat cushion sliding backwards underneath it? Is there some sort of fabric strap connected to the seat? I use a Jay Active cushion and I can't help but feel it would slip under the backrest. I'd rather not have to attach my cushion to the seat with velcro or similar.

[Texaswheelz]

Yes there is a piece of black fabric that you velcro under neath your seat cushion and velcro's behind the back cushion.

[graphic]

Texaswheelz, on Mar 30 2008, 03:27 PM, said:

Yes there is a piece of black fabric that you velcro under neath your seat cushion and velcro's behind the back cushion.

Thanks!

[Webwych]

nomis, on Mar 17 2008, 10:37 PM, said:

I've got two chairs with rigid backs, a Jay2 and a fibrecarbon JetstreamPro. They are slightly higher than the type you're looking at but otherwise much the same.

I love mine. It's improved my posture which is important long term. And I reckon it's also more efficient in pushing the wheels. You get a more positive response when moving the chair.

Initially, I had to get used to the new balance, both of my sitting position and handling the chair. That didn't take long. It adds slightly to the weight which can be a consideration loading into a car but that's never been a problem for me. It's one more thing on the chair that can go wrong but mine have been remarkably reliable over about 6 years (for the Jay).

Nomis, I'm looking at the J2 myself. Are they detachable for transport achair in my car?

[grego]

can anyone pass on to me the contact info for ADI?

[Texaswheelz]

grego, on Jun 3 2008, 02:40 PM, said:

can anyone pass on to me the contact info for ADI?

silone74, on Mar 17 2008, 05:05 PM, said:

Hi check out this site they have some nice stuff
http://accessibledes....com/index.html

Silone74

Going to their site and clicking the contact link should work.