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#1 Yong

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 03:11 PM

In my efforts to get back in shape, I think a cardio exercise like handcycling would only be beneficial for me.

I was looking online a found this handcycle, the New Halls Wheels Defiant Z - Offroad Handcycle.

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I like the rugged stance (it's a bit higher than the standard Defiant..so I hear... :doh: ) and I figure it'll give me a chance not only to exercise but be able to do it out in nature.

Anybody have experiences with the New Hall's handcycle? I hear that they are out of business now. The handcycle I am looking at is a used one for 1900 dollars. Any suggestions/ recommendations?

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 06:15 PM

yeah, saw that one one bike-on.com.. I have a Halls New Wheels Defiant ZS. LOVE IT!! I just got my new set of wheels today from the bike shop.. .cos I bought mine from Bike-on (btw same cost s/h), so I could race. I got Zipp wheels on it, so today I picked up the wheels I had built for it for using it offroad. I personally think its an awesome bike.. but.. someone has just copied it and taken the design for his own.. some english guy from sheffield university has got an award for it and everything! Cheeky Buggar! But the price is very different. Over here its £750 NEW!

http://www.intrepidhandcycle.com/

You may notice the similarities in the design?!

But my baby, my Halls bike stays put :doh:

oh, my opinion? I would go for the Halls bike, they sold two years ago new in bike-on.com for the same cost as the schmiking bike! they were $5900 dollar. Very nicely made too :bye:

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Posted 21 March 2008 - 01:57 PM

I saw that Intrepid handcycle as well. Here in the US, they're selling it for 1499 plus 120 dollar shipping, which is still cheaper than the 1900 wanted for the Defiant. However, the defiant on bike-on has shimano sti shifters and rougher terrain set-up (which is really appealing to me...)

Anyone know of the quality of intrepids?

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Posted 21 March 2008 - 09:03 PM

View PostYong, on Mar 21 2008, 01:57 PM, said:

I saw that Intrepid handcycle as well. Here in the US, they're selling it for 1499 plus 120 dollar shipping, which is still cheaper than the 1900 wanted for the Defiant. However, the defiant on bike-on has shimano sti shifters and rougher terrain set-up (which is really appealing to me...)

Anyone know of the quality of intrepids?


I'd rather have the better components, and as that other handcycle is so new, no-one really knows for sure how its going to hold up. Only thing I do like about it is the adjustable seating, it looks a bit like the quickie shark's seating.

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Posted 23 March 2008 - 07:41 PM

How old is the bike? How old are its components? I would make sure to find out how old the cycle is before purchasing, because components can wear out, and it would suck to pay $1900 and find out you have to replace half of the stuff on the bike! I've ridden the Intrepid and I like it and I think it's a solid bike roughly comparable to the Top End XLT Gold. But you should do your research before dropping that much money on anything. I'm familiar with Bob Hall's bikes and I'm pretty sure he stopped making them a few years ago. If you are looking for a cheap bike you should also check out e-bay and craigslist.

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 02:33 PM

View PostKeith Crump, on Mar 23 2008, 03:41 PM, said:

How old is the bike? How old are its components? I would make sure to find out how old the cycle is before purchasing, because components can wear out, and it would suck to pay $1900 and find out you have to replace half of the stuff on the bike! I've ridden the Intrepid and I like it and I think it's a solid bike roughly comparable to the Top End XLT Gold. But you should do your research before dropping that much money on anything. I'm familiar with Bob Hall's bikes and I'm pretty sure he stopped making them a few years ago. If you are looking for a cheap bike you should also check out e-bay and craigslist.

I purchased the bike saturday for 1800 shipped. Not too bad considering I don't have to pay taxes nor shipping fees. But I really don't think there's a thing as a 'cheap' handcycle :H2kOther (26):

The company shut its doors in 2005, I believe. From what Scott told me at Bike-on, the handcycle is about 5-6 years old but has been kept very clean with minimal wear and tear. The previous owner actually had two handcycles and used this particular one just to go offroad. But then it never got much use.

As for buying a 'lemon', that's the risk everyone needs to take in purchasing a used anything.

I'm expecting delivery about the middle of next week. I post up pictures once I get it!

This is exciting stuff!

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 03:23 PM

I'm new to the forum, and am the father of an eight-year-old with spina bifida. We shopped around for a couple of months, trying to find the best handcycle option for him. Surprisingly, it's not all that easy to find a handcycle dealer in Southern California. We looked into the Lightning model made by Dr. Franks in Thousand Oaks (handcycle.com), but he was so nasty and pushy that he immediately turned us off. We know that a lot of people use his bikes, but we didn't want to have to deal with such a cruddy person in buying one, much less having to come back for repairs and maintenance. If you're seriously interested in a Lightning, I'd suggest getting one through some sort of distributor instead of having to deal with Dr. Franks directly. I've never seen someone who was so clueless about customer service. He practically ordered us to have a cashier's check ready if he was going to drive all the way out for us to try one of his bikes. Big news, Dr. Franks: interested customers are NEVER an inconvenience.

On the opposite end of the coin is Intrepid Equipment, which I see you were discussing. We ended up ordering an Intrepid tourer for our son because we were impressed with their quality of construction *and* their customer service. Graham Butler, the designer and builder of the bikes, met us at the shop with his brother. They went over every intimate detail of the bikes with us, let us take things apart and practically flog them to test their strength, and pointed out the specific design issues that would help our son use a handcycle to his best advantage. We especially liked the hellaciously strong coupler that can be disengaged to compact the bikes for transport, and the wide range of adjustability that would enable the bike to grow with him. Then the Butlers packed up half a dozen bikes into the trailer, and we followed them out to Mission Bay where everyone in the family was given free reign to ride the handcycles for more than an hour. There are worse scenarios for trying out a product, let me tell you!

I will freely admit that we know next to nothing about bike components, so all the technical discussion about those things goes over our heads. We did talk to a number of owners online who really liked the parts that Intrepid puts into their bikes, so apparently they're not using cheapo knockoffs. The main reason that Intrepid's handcycles are so much less expensive than many others is that they don't deal with outside distributors. Everything is handled in-house, from manufacture to shipping to repair, which means they can avoid the 40-60% markup that distributors require. As someone who works in the publishing business, I know all about the butt-rape that distributors inflict on people who are trying to sell products, so I greatly appreciate that Intrepid avoids that whole web. I would *highly* recommend looking into Intrepid for anyone who is seeking a handcycle. They might not meet someone's particular needs, of course, but they are really a wonderful and conscientious company with a fine, fine product.




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