[fatdave]

Yong, Im starting to not like you! ( not really, I admire you for going forward with this project!)

you make my head swim with all these thoughts of past cars that I have owned and it makes me a little misty eyed.

When I was 15 years old I was offered a 1979 Buick le sabre Coupe. With the help of my friend (who is now deceased) we managed to acquire a 500ci cadillac from a '75 eldorado. over the winter we installed that 500 in the buick ( using a TH400 "borrowed" from my dads cutlass drag car) and a 14 bolt gm rear with full floating axles. ( out of a 3/4 ton GMC)

with Sanderson Headers and a holley 750 on a knock off edlebrock intake.

I loved that car, 6 miles per gallon, and enough torque to change the rotation of the earth. I wish I would have never welded the spider gears though, as that was the reason I ended up upside down in a ditch on my 16th birthday with it. I wish I had pictures of that car, it was the ultimate sleeper, baby shit green with white walls. only thing that gave it away was the rear axle.

after that I ended up with a 1986 grand marquis, we ended up putting a H.O. 5.0 with the 5 speed in that car, it was fun driving a huge boat like that with a 5 speed. should have never sold it.

Keep up the good work, and keep us informed!

[Miguel]

The guy in the youtube video above is Yoshi Shinya. Here is a link to his his article CLICK HERE.  Maybe drop the mag a line to get some info and advise.


Although not impossible to drift with an auto it has its complications. One of them being Autobox temps. Try not to shock the box i.e revving to 3 K and dumping it in D or even knocking it into N and the back into D to while moving to initiate a drift. You will end up roasting the clutch bands if you do and will get very familiar with swapping out boxes. They really don't like to be freewheeled, Autoboxes must be in gear at all times when not stationary. If you are thinking of going mad power wise on the box, look into giving it some help. A cooler and maybe even getting some of the accumulator pressures raised to help the box keep its act together by stopping it slipping its clutch packs so much. Makes the gear changes snappy too.

Treat the box with a little bit of mechanical sympathy and you should be fine.

Have fun, look forward to reading about how you get on.

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[jp1337]

"and just in case...all of the Skylines, WRXs, EVOs you seen drifting...they have ALL been changed to RWD."


PLEASEEEE don't tell me you're serious. I'm not paralyzed in anyway, and what i saw here was so inspiring i give you kudos, wanting to be sideways with the rest of us is awesome... BUT!

awd drifting isn't impossible. it actually requires a lot less countersteering. to prove it watch this. http://www.youtube.c...Gs&feature=fvst

if you seriously think that awd drifting is impossible you have A LOT to learn about driving. not alone drifting. although it is very impossible to drift front wheel drive. honestly, the best thing i can suggest for you
is buying an xbox360 and getting forza 2. the physics are so close to life, as a matter of fact it taught me HOW to drift. its quite useful... and if you could somehow set a steering wheel to go off of the same idea of the xbox controller it would be just like playing the game except real. you should consider it. good luck in the future.

[akifromscunny]

jp1337, on Jul 16 2009, 07:26 AM, said:

"and just in case...all of the Skylines, WRXs, EVOs you seen drifting...they have ALL been changed to RWD."


PLEASEEEE don't tell me you're serious. I'm not paralyzed in anyway, and what i saw here was so inspiring i give you kudos, wanting to be sideways with the rest of us is awesome... BUT!

awd drifting isn't impossible. it actually requires a lot less countersteering. to prove it watch this. http://www.youtube.c...Gs&feature=fvst

if you seriously think that awd drifting is impossible you have A LOT to learn about driving. not alone drifting. although it is very impossible to drift front wheel drive. honestly, the best thing i can suggest for you
is buying an xbox360 and getting forza 2. the physics are so close to life, as a matter of fact it taught me HOW to drift. its quite useful... and if you could somehow set a steering wheel to go off of the same idea of the xbox controller it would be just like playing the game except real. you should consider it. good luck in the future.

i have had numerous real wheel drive cars what i enjoyed drifting in like toyota mr2s, bmw325 and a couple of nissan 200sx', but to behonest oneof the cars i found easiest to drift was infact an awd subaru impreza, very easy to get sideways and once it was sideways very easy to keep.
alot of fun!!

[fatdave]

akifromscunny, on Jul 16 2009, 06:27 AM, said:

i have had numerous real wheel drive cars what i enjoyed drifting in like toyota mr2s, bmw325 and a couple of nissan 200sx', but to behonest oneof the cars i found easiest to drift was infact an awd subaru impreza, very easy to get sideways and once it was sideways very easy to keep.
alot of fun!!

I drifted a 88 mr2 into a ditch after a rather sudden case of over steer... my friend still wont let me borrow any of his cars after that.

[toy]

[Ratticis]

"Drifting" is niether new or a sport. Why people waste their time/money with this shit I will never know. I guess it's just like all the geeks who buy a car, add a bunch of bolt on shit, then figure the're really 'car guys' with their 4 door 4 cylinder neon with the coffee can on the exaust and the end table bolted to the trunk lid. Sad state the world is in

[un_holyroller]

toy, on Jul 23 2009, 09:46 PM, said:

hey! thats me! I no longer own the car. I've switched gears to awd cars and rally racing.

Drifting was an absolute blast...then beating mullet sporting camaro owners with my little turbo 4 banger. Good times.

[Yong]

Ratticis, on Aug 15 2009, 10:33 PM, said:

"Drifting" is niether new or a sport. Why people waste their time/money with this shit I will never know. I guess it's just like all the geeks who buy a car, add a bunch of bolt on shit, then figure the're really 'car guys' with their 4 door 4 cylinder neon with the coffee can on the exaust and the end table bolted to the trunk lid. Sad state the world is in

I just saw this. Haha. Someone needs a hug...

I bet you think dressing in nice clothes and getting a fine haircut is also nonsense.

Sad state the world is in...

[Hikkakaru]

Ratticis, on Aug 15 2009, 06:33 PM, said:

"Drifting" is niether new or a sport. Why people waste their time/money with this shit I will never know. I guess it's just like all the geeks who buy a car, add a bunch of bolt on shit, then figure the're really 'car guys' with their 4 door 4 cylinder neon with the coffee can on the exaust and the end table bolted to the trunk lid. Sad state the world is in

Well, thankfully you aren't the one to dictate how everyone spends their money.

If it's one thing that irritates me, it's elitists. Regardless of if you're building an all-stops ALMS race-prepped car, or if you're just putting on a cat-back exhaust on your Honda Civic, an enthusiast is an enthusiast. Not very many people get the chance to start at the top of their chosen fields.The fact of the matter is that the aftermarket community has matured to the point that if you take any car from the showroom floor, with an additional 4-5 thousand dollars it can be made a reliable, fun HPDE and amateur track car with purely 'bolt-on' modifications. I'm not sure what the displacement or number of cylinders has to do with the owner being a 'car guy'. I think that a 'car guy' would have an unbiased love for ALL automobiles. They all have their roles, advantages and disadvantages.

I'm not sure what you think dictates a sport, but in my opinion it's certainly can be. The judging criteria is certainly questionable, but the fact that it's considered competitive enough for almost all of the American car manufacturers to spend millions of dollars trying to be at the top of it kind of validates itself to me. It's one of the few motorsports that the average joe who isn't into cars can go, watch it on tv, or whatever and become really into it, as it's exciting when compared to Indy or Sports Car racing from a spectator point of view.

If you have nothing productive to say about someone's hobbies, why open your mouth about it?

With that said , thought you might want an update on my car Yong. A few months ago I bit the bullet and bought myself the Turner Motorsports track sport plus kit, and love it so far

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"• Turner TrackSport Coil-over suspension - (front and rear H&R/Bilstein fixed-valving dampeners matched to Turner customized H&R coil springs, and feature fully-threaded front shock bodies (not an imitation sleeve-over) and adjustable rear spring perches that allow you to precisely dial in front and rear ride height. (kit tends to lower the car 1-2" front and .75-1.6" rear). Each shock is engineered to work in harmony with its matched progressive-rate spring (about 400 lbs front and 650 lbs rear), together creating a finely tuned suspension system.
• Turner E46 M3 Sway Bar Set - 30mm 3-way adjustable front bar and 25mm 2-way adjustable rear bar, including sway bar bushings.
• Turner Adjustable Front Swaybar Links (pair) - Quiet operation and long life as the stock links, plus the strength and adjustability of rod-end style links. These allow you to neutralize preload on swaybars to balance the car.
• TMS Adjustable Rear Swaybar Links (pair)
• JTD Aluminum Rear Shock Tower Mounts (pair) "

At the same time I installed solid aluminum motor/trans/diff mounts, front contol arm bearings(to replace bushings),adjustable rear control arms, and stiff poly bushings everywhere to replace the worn (and more flexible) rubber bushings.

I think i'm the only one that likes the mods. The car rattles and vibrates (from the mounts) and everyone bitches about it being too stiff and noisy for a BMW , but I LOVE it. Really made the car feel solid. I'll take some pics soon so I can show off the ride height and such to you.

Now I just need to install these new rotors and hawk HPS's I got sitting behind me. I am so lazy sometimes. My pedal travel is terrible, and my pads are ~1.5mm , and I still haven't installed them. haha. No grind=no care.

This post has been edited by Hikkakaru: 10 January 2010 - 02:23 PM

[Tetracyclone]

This was posted elsewhere, but deserves a repete here:

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mustang/g...deos-and-demos/

start with the second video, "Mustang Drift: The Roots" and turn up your sound system.

Pay no attention to Ratty. He gets his shorts all knotted sometimes.

Great to see you all having fun!

[Hell On Wheels 916]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=6bSHYUGzmwU

its in japanese but u get a good visual on what he uses.

[Tetracyclone]

Thanks. I'm still figuring out the controls.

[Lynky]

Hi - from aust.

funny i was doing a search for hand controls & found this discussion.
i have been deciding on what car to buy to best allow me to control it for a multitude of disiplines.

i wish to do track days (circuit racing) plus drifting. luclily i retained my licence back without need for hand controls (L2) however i find it very hard to drive a manual especially with G forces that throw my legs from side to side.
my 1st preference was Jap, so cheap here & parts & R&D are plentiful. only prob was getting one with a sequential box as Auto just doesnt make the cut if u r serous.
i have come to the conclusion of searching for either a E36 or E46 M3, 245Kw in Aust. its not enough grunt to drift however a simple add on supercharger will lift it to 300 + without to much cost.
do u know of anything that has a SMG box without spending a mint?
the SMG M3 box is good for 400-500 Nm torgue (apparently) - sorry in Aust we are up with the times & talk metric, US will chatch up 1 day ....lol.
i will keep u posted on my development.

Cheers

This post has been edited by Lynky: 14 June 2010 - 06:32 AM

[Mallee]

Lynky, on Jun 14 2010, 07:31 AM, said:

Hi - from aust.

funny i was doing a search for hand controls & found this discussion.
i have been deciding on what car to buy to best allow me to control it for a multitude of disiplines.

i wish to do track days (circuit racing) plus drifting. luclily i retained my licence back without need for hand controls (L2) however i find it very hard to drive a manual especially with G forces that throw my legs from side to side.
my 1st preference was Jap, so cheap here & parts & R&D are plentiful. only prob was getting one with a sequential box as Auto just doesnt make the cut if u r serous.
i have come to the conclusion of searching for either a E36 or E46 M3, 245Kw in Aust. its not enough grunt to drift however a simple add on supercharger will lift it to 300 + without to much cost.
do u know of anything that has a SMG box without spending a mint?
the SMG M3 box is good for 400-500 Nm torgue (apparently) - sorry in Aust we are up with the times & talk metric, US will chatch up 1 day ....lol.
i will keep u posted on my development.

Cheers

Aust? your post reads like an Aussi post but with no mention of HSV or Clubbie I guess you must be in Austria. lol

Look forward hearing what you end up with

[Tetracyclone]

nice to see something in this thread.