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[Boozyuzi]

I've been a para for 18 years and I've tried various legbags to try and find one that doesn't leak. I've found it .

Manfred Sauer Bendi leg bag. Designed for wheelchair user's with one strap above the knee and choice of sliding or swing tap. They come in 700ml or 1300ml. I've been using them for over 2 years and they have never leaked or burst. The 1300ml bag is perfect for nights out in the pub or long flights when you can't get to the toilet. They are available on the NHS in the UK.

http://www.manfred-sauer.co.uk/

[Simon]

I agree, they are great. Used to use the 1.3 ltr one until switched to a shortened night bag holding 2ltr!

[wheelie182]

I use their convines, and their excellent !!!

[Boozyuzi]

BTW - you can get a free sample of the Bendi leg bag by filling out the online form.

If you are in a chair full time then you should try them. Especially the 1300ml - it sounds like a lot but you don't need to let it fill up that much + there is no need for an overnight bag.

Just click the "request sample" tab on the left hand menu.
http://www.manfred-s...uk/frameset.asp

And no I don't work for them.

[Boozyuzi]

There are also "discreet thigh bags" which are good for wearing shorts in the summer or even going swimming.

[Chilepepper]

Hi Boozyuzi

What are the cost for these discreet thigh bags. What is the brand name for this product. Myself I use this bag called Urocare sport bag. The problem with them is that they do not drain properly. I always have to squeeze my privetes so that the fluid does not back up. It is one BIG pain in the ass when you are around people and you have to do this.

[Boozyuzi]

Sorry, I am not sure of the cost as I get them on the NHS in the UK. I think all the details are on the website - it's down at the moment.

I've never used the thigh bags as I still have some from another manufacturer - I'll give the Manfred Sauer ones a go once the other ones run out.

[russ1]

I did the request for a sample as a result of this thread and am trying it out at the moment. Entirely unconvinced at the moment about the bendy leg bag, am trying the 700ml one but not sure I want a full bag so high up my leg as it seem less discrete than a normal leg bag. The 1300ml one looks huge for a leg bag - would be great for those long haul flights but other than that..... not even any use for me at night as I regularly pass more than that (blood pressure issues).

The wide leg strap is a great idea but poorly executed. Thigh bags look like a good idea and I'll get some of those.

Still can't make my mind up whether it's an improvement over the basic bard stuff I use at the moment - some good ideas and at least some thought has gone into it but not quite got there IMHO.

[Simon]

Russ
The wide leg strap is a great design, not poorly done at all.
The strap goes above the knee and the green velcro attached thru the eyelets on the bag, if you get it the wrong way round then it won't sit right, I agree. The 1300ml bags were invaluable to me when my wife worked, my previous bag (holding 500ml) was inadequate in holding enough urine so I could be left for 6/7 hours on my own.
The 1300ml bag meant this wasn't a problem.
Simon

[russ1]

The problem with the wide leg strap is that the green bits on the outside which are used to fix the bag to the strap aren't elasicated and so this unelasticated section goes round about 80% of the thigh leaving only 20% to work as a stretchy bit - great idea spoilt by the detailing - even worse when used with their 'normal' leg bag on the calf. It's not great for a fairly active person IMO as you either need it tight so it doesn't slip and then it marks or you have it loose and it slips. In practical use it's no better than the narrower fully elasticated strap of my current system.

I can definately see the use of a 1300 bag for someone unable to empty their own bag - just not for me.

[wheelie182]

Well i use their sheaths and there excellent, but i may trial out a different legbag, at the moment i just use bard's legbags, which i only use the upper strap with, and i use the second strap to strap the tube more to my thigh, and then i simply just tuck the tap into my sock,

this way, when it needs emptying i just pull out the tap from my sock and stick it over the toilet seat, rather than having to empty into a different bag, and then empty that one into the toilet.

its great because i literally can go to the toilet as quick as an AB,

how do you guys empty your bags?

[Boozyuzi]

wheelie182, on Nov 18 2005, 06:40 PM, said:

how do you guys empty your bags?

[wheelie182]

whats so funny

[Apparelyzed]

I think it would of been funnier if he'd asked " How do you guy's empty your sacks"!

I'm a C5/6, complete motor neurology, and I can empty my legbag. It's something I've learned to do over the years, in fact it took about 3 years before I could do it, but now I can, I am independant throughout the day, and can be left on my own.

I have my legbag situated on my right leg, on the inside of my calf.

I pull up to the toilet, put my brakes on, put my left arm around my pushing handle, and my right elbow on the front right corner of my cushion. I then put my right wrist behind my right calf, and with the leverage I have with my elbow on the cusion, I can use my bicept to lift my leg onto the edge of the toilet.

With my leg on the toilet seat, I can then pull my trouser leg up to get access to my legbag. I then sit up, put my right arm around my right push handle, and use my left thumb to push the tap open on my legbag.

Once emptied, you just reverse the proceedure, and that's it.

It usually takes me about 2-3 minutes from start to finish.

I have often thought about making an instructional video of the procedure, as it's difficult to do unless someone shows you. Maybe a project for a future section of the site.

Simon.

[wheelie182]

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I have often thought about making an instructional video of the procedure, as it's difficult to do unless someone shows you. Maybe a project for a future section of the site.

yeh simon,

i was thinking that, you have little videos of how to's, in two different categorys, quad and para, of stuff like,

transfering to couch,
chair to chair,
chair to car,
car to chair,
floor to chair,
chair to bath etc

i reckon it would be a good idea,

[russ1]

You mean like these Videos ?

[joisliniad]

Russ those videos were great and very simple and educational.. I wasn't familiar with them...I will keep that page mark to use it for my future reference with my patients... It is amazing how this board can be very helpfull everyday...

[wheelie182]

Well yes, but theres loads more that needs be shown, like the stuff i mentioned above