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#1 nomis

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 10:47 AM

Here's a story that started the other day and sorta made sense today.

I was wheelin' down the main street of my one-street town in enzed when I passed two men standing outside a nondescript address – one was a 30-ish guy, pleasant looking and we caught each others eye in a gidday smile. The other guy was about 70, drabbly dressed, drab everything, something akin to the accused at the Nuringburg trials. He was holding a Bible and droning god stuff to the vacant space infront of him.

After I'd wheeled by I heard him change gear to drone more excitably and rather pointedly about carrying a burden in life.

Bugger. The messenger of dread had got me. I carried on faking oblivion to his words but secretly pissed off and already plotting revenge – like placing myself near him and preaching that god is joy and positive affirmation of life and proclaiming I'd been spared from a terrible accident to bring him the message of the errors of his way.

A week goes by. I haven't forgotten. I'm lunching with a friend and I mention this insult to him.

“Ahhhhh” he said. He's fond of saying that. “I know the guy. He's from the Brethren Church. He's doing penance by having to preach in the street. He's the guy who was recently found guilty of that historic charge of molesting little girls.”

Edited by nomis, 31 August 2008 - 10:50 AM.

"It's the notion that there is no perfection ~ that this is a broken world and we live with broken hearts and broken lives but still that is no alibi for anything. On the contrary, you have to stand up and say hallelujah under those circumstances. " - Leonard Cohen

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 09:14 PM

They let him off for molesting little girls if he preaches on the street ? That guy ain't no dummy here they go to jail.

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 11:52 PM

I think he's on bail awaiting sentence.
"It's the notion that there is no perfection ~ that this is a broken world and we live with broken hearts and broken lives but still that is no alibi for anything. On the contrary, you have to stand up and say hallelujah under those circumstances. " - Leonard Cohen

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Posted 01 September 2008 - 12:00 AM

Yeah, here they go to jail too. Upon which they get the crap beat out of them by fellow inmates who don't look so kindly on child molesters. Somehow, a small slice of justice is served!
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Posted 01 September 2008 - 01:42 AM

View Postnomis, on Aug 31 2008, 06:47 AM, said:

“Ahhhhh” he said. He's fond of saying that. “I know the guy. He's from the Brethren Church. He's doing penance by having to preach in the street. He's the guy who was recently found guilty of that historic charge of molesting little girls.”
Never understood that "penance" thing. I mean, if Jesus saves us from our sins, why do we need to do penance? Weird.
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Posted 01 September 2008 - 01:54 AM

It's a catholic thing,,,,,,Used to be money or sex in the middle ages that got you forgivness.

That or going to the holy land to kill unbelievers.
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 07:49 PM

View Postnomis, on Aug 31 2008, 11:47 AM, said:

Here's a story that started the other day and sorta made sense today.

I was wheelin' down the main street of my one-street town in enzed when I passed two men standing outside a nondescript address – one was a 30-ish guy, pleasant looking and we caught each others eye in a gidday smile. The other guy was about 70, drabbly dressed, drab everything, something akin to the accused at the Nuringburg trials. He was holding a Bible and droning god stuff to the vacant space infront of him.

After I'd wheeled by I heard him change gear to drone more excitably and rather pointedly about carrying a burden in life.

Bugger. The messenger of dread had got me. I carried on faking oblivion to his words but secretly pissed off and already plotting revenge – like placing myself near him and preaching that god is joy and positive affirmation of life and proclaiming I'd been spared from a terrible accident to bring him the message of the errors of his way.

A week goes by. I haven't forgotten. I'm lunching with a friend and I mention this insult to him.

“Ahhhhh” he said. He's fond of saying that. “I know the guy. He's from the Brethren Church. He's doing penance by having to preach in the street. He's the guy who was recently found guilty of that historic charge of molesting little girls.”

Bit of an un PC joke for you Nomis.
Two priests were talking in the confessional, the one who was repenting (I think that is what it is called) said "Forgive me father, I have sinned. I have been caught molesting children". The second priest asks "were they girls or boys"? The first one says "girls of course, what do you think I am, a pervert".

Not sure if I can mention his name, you may recall this Nomis. Remember the Christian left party leader a while back who was found guilty of paedophilia? I remember them showing him leaving court when a guy walking past (an ex boxer) :unsure: walked past and bashed him in the face. He ended up lying on the ground bawling like a baby. :wink05: The news madia played it a few times on each news program and in slow motion, almost a blow by blow commentary. Each time me and my family laughed our heads off and cheered for the boxer guy. Shamed in front of the nation, lets bring that back! :dev:

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 11:18 PM

Yeah, I remember the Caphill matter.

We've got two threads of thought running here, one the disgust reaction to paedaphilia - which I'm sure we can all agree with - and the other point I was making that it's too easy for me to jump to a conclusion that I take a negative remark by someone in the street to be about me and my wheelchair when it was only a trigger for someone to get into their own self-loathing.

And a word of caution. I haven't closely followed this guy's story so don't even know what he has done - I believe it was about 40yrs ago but was it inappropriate touch like patting bottoms or something more serious? I know of another case from the other day where a father got jailed for 2yrs who when play fighting with his teenage daughter briefly cupped his hand over a breast. Obviously, that's inappropriate but I'm not sure if the punishment is in everyone's best interest, including the taxpayers'.
"It's the notion that there is no perfection ~ that this is a broken world and we live with broken hearts and broken lives but still that is no alibi for anything. On the contrary, you have to stand up and say hallelujah under those circumstances. " - Leonard Cohen

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 04:15 AM

View Postedlee, on Aug 31 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

That or going to the holy land to kill unbelievers.
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Hey, don't give Kwag_Myers any ideas!
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when it absolutely, positively, has to be destroyed overnight, call the Marines.

I will nevah, EVAH take a pinch from a greasy muddahf*@kah like you!

How 'bout if I spell it out for ya. D-I-L-L-I-G-A-F

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 10:42 AM

I would never do such a thing. There's plenty of unbelievers right here - I don't have to go anywhere.
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Posted 05 September 2008 - 06:39 AM

nomis the words of others are theirs until you decide to hear them. Unless someone addresses me directly I just go about my business other wise it would drive me nuts, er I mean more.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 11:48 AM

If only it were that simple. Haven't you realised that we're all nuts. Some really nutty-nut-nut people even think they're not nuts.
"It's the notion that there is no perfection ~ that this is a broken world and we live with broken hearts and broken lives but still that is no alibi for anything. On the contrary, you have to stand up and say hallelujah under those circumstances. " - Leonard Cohen

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 12:11 PM

I love those rare moments in life when you have that eureka moment... "I never thought about it like that!"

After having formed an opinion and standing by it, someone comes along and gives you a different perspective and then it all becomes clear... "I never thought about it like that!"

Wow - that almost sounds like one of those religious experiences... never had one of those...

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 12:11 PM

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If only it were that simple. Haven't you realised that we're all nuts. Some really nutty-nut-nut people even think they're not nuts.

^ :lmao:

Edited by topperf, 05 September 2008 - 12:12 PM.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 01:05 PM

I
Think he should be castrated using the brick method

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 05:14 AM

View Postnomis, on Sep 5 2008, 04:48 AM, said:

If only it were that simple. Haven't you realised that we're all nuts. Some really nutty-nut-nut people even think they're not nuts.
Are you talking about our president...............walnuts or almonds I like nuts peanuts are not nuts there for I don't like them. Oh nuts they're here again gota go.....................

Edited by longhaul, 07 September 2008 - 06:46 AM.


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Posted 07 September 2008 - 07:57 PM

View Postnomis, on Sep 5 2008, 12:48 PM, said:

If only it were that simple. Haven't you realised that we're all nuts. Some really nutty-nut-nut people even think they're not nuts.

Yep, it's the nuts ones who think they aren't who are the ones to look out for. I know I am nuts but at least I freely admit it. :helpme:

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:02 PM

It's not a matter of " nuts" or " not nuts".,,,,,It's just a matter of degree of "nuttiness".




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