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[reaven85]

Bricen for the last two days has had a lot of white debris in his urine? Also it is cloudy?

[fatdave]

does it smell really bad also? could be a sign of a UTI. You should get a culture done of a urine sample. I've been struggling with UTI's since my injury in april....and those are the signs i look for.

[reaven85]

fatdave, on Nov 3 2008, 01:01 AM, said:

does it smell really bad also? could be a sign of a UTI. You should get a culture done of a urine sample. I've been struggling with UTI's since my injury in april....and those are the signs i look for.

Yeah it does smell bad but it always does. He has really sstrong urine? I do notice a change though. It is also always dark? So this is hard to determine? He did this in rehab and his tests were always negetive

[Courtney]

Dark urine usually means that he hasn't been drinking enough.....but I agree with fatdave.....go get a culture done......sounds like a UTI....

[andinoah]

Courtney, on Nov 3 2008, 07:31 AM, said:

Dark urine usually means that he hasn't been drinking enough.....but I agree with fatdave.....go get a culture done......sounds like a UTI....

Could be retrograde ejaculation, just a thought

[benok]

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Could be retrograde ejaculation, just a thought

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This is my initial thought too when I read the title of the thread.
Likewise, take lots of water

[Texaswheelz]

if it's always dark and always smelly then he needs to increase his fluid intake, preferably water, but liquid of some sort for sure. Eating some foods can cause it to smell strong regardless of what and how much you drink, but if your drinking a healthy amount it won't be dark, it will be closer to clear then yellow and for sure not dark yellow.

I've had the white stuff before also, no idea what it is, but I've had it before when I was have a urine colture down and I didn't have a UTI. I though for sure I was going to have one and then didn't and was quite surprised but happy.

[Slowlegs]

I get the white stuff too I think. It floats on top of the water like pond scum. I think it may be protein and for me is a sign of UTI. Could also pus if it is floating around in the urine. I agree about drinking more. Dark and smelly is not good. My urologist says it should look like Chardonnay. He also tells me not to drink alcohol as well so how would I know?

[evilmac64]

I had that white stuff for about a week had a culture done sure enough i had a uti . For what its worth.

[buffie]

for a year and a half, my urine has been smelly and full of the white sediment. it would be so thick that it would clog the tube to the bedside bag. i thought that this was just how i was. well, i went to the dr and had a culture as part of my annual checkup. uti detected. i took a course of levaquin, urine is clear as water, no sediment and no odor. my advice......go to the dr.

[Jackiefff]

I get that every now and then, not too often, I am on macrobid to help avoid the UTI's, but i have stopped going to the doctor for it because i never end up having a UTI, get it checked, but i wouldnt be too worried if you see it now and then in the future!

[kDd]

Bugs are inevitable if you use any sort of cath. The key is to continually flush them back out with fluids so they don't get cosy and thrive.

The nurses at my rehab refer to the white sediment as 'calcifications', aka the beginning of stone formation.

Drink up...


Peace,

kDd

[benok]

kDd, on Nov 5 2008, 03:57 AM, said:

Bugs are inevitable if you use any sort of cath. The key is to continually flush them back out with fluids so they don't get cosy and thrive.

The nurses at my rehab refer to the white sediment as 'calcifications', aka the beginning of stone formation.

Drink up...
Peace,

kDd

thanks for this idea. very plausible that it will be the start of stone formation

[Tash]

While caring for my man...if i run across that before I get him to the drs. I try water and cranberry juice for a couple days constantly ...If still same results go to the dr it must be more than not enough water or fluids.

Be careful and safe.

[PAMLJ993]

Tash, on Nov 5 2008, 04:03 PM, said:

While caring for my man...if i run across that before I get him to the drs. I try water and cranberry juice for a couple days constantly ...If still same results go to the dr it must be more than not enough water or fluids.

Be careful and safe.

Hi, Be careful with the cranberry juice. Don't drink more than 400mls a day as the zinc in it has been linked to Alzheimer's disease.

Also, it is not the done thing to drink to much fluid nowadays as it overworks the kidneys. So if anyone is drinking pints at a time- stop- a few 250ml mugfuls throughout the day is better, with tea and coffee or whatever it is you drink normally. Over the years we have been told to drink 2lts, 6lts and 8lts a day [can they ever get it right!], blimey can you imagine drinking 8lts a day! Some years ago we were told to take vitamin C to keep the catheter clear, a year later we were told to stop as it was blocking them

I have got a tube that is chockablock full of the white stuff plus blood. The white stuff is either white blood cells because of infection or calcium. My catheter is covered with an egg shell type material trying to form around the balloon. I know I must have stones but I have not seen any doctors about is.

In the last few months I have taken every antibiotic known to man but I cant shift any infection as I have liver damage due to the tablets I have taken since I broke my neck [C5/6] in 78.

Got to admit I do cheat and take Frusimide [water tablets] to help clear the slime and stuff out of the catheter and tube of the bag.

Anyone who has been in a chair for a few years will know what works for them and will ignore the able bods who try and put their pennies worth in- especially nurses. They cant even begin to understand what we go through. I do my own catheter with the help from my mates because the nurses push the whole catheter inside which kicks off my
autonomic dysreflexia. They just never listened when I ask them not to put it in so far, all I got was 'We are trained' Trained in what? Torture?

My BP was 350/180 on one occasion [and rising] my head was banging, pouring sweat, pounding heart blah blah blah. The nurse [a nice one] took my catheter out and that started the AD, she was then in a catch 22 situation, she needed to get a new cath in, but I was in so much pain she couldn't, eventually it was sorted but I could not speak properly for 3 weeks.


God, I waffle on don't I. Sorry folk but I hope some of this has helped some of you

Take Care

Pam

[Hikkakaru]

PAMLJ993, on Nov 5 2008, 06:59 PM, said:

Tash, on Nov 5 2008, 04:03 PM, said:

While caring for my man...if i run across that before I get him to the drs. I try water and cranberry juice for a couple days constantly ...If still same results go to the dr it must be more than not enough water or fluids.

Be careful and safe.

Hi, Be careful with the cranberry juice. Don't drink more than 400mls a day as the zinc in it has been linked to Alzheimer's disease.

Also, it is not the done thing to drink to much fluid nowadays as it overworks the kidneys. So if anyone is drinking pints at a time- stop- a few 250ml mugfuls throughout the day is better, with tea and coffee or whatever it is you drink normally. Over the years we have been told to drink 2lts, 6lts and 8lts a day [can they ever get it right!], blimey can you imagine drinking 8lts a day! Some years ago we were told to take vitamin C to keep the catheter clear, a year later we were told to stop as it was blocking them

I have got a tube that is chockablock full of the white stuff plus blood. The white stuff is either white blood cells because of infection or calcium. My catheter is covered with an egg shell type material trying to form around the balloon. I know I must have stones but I have not seen any doctors about is.

In the last few months I have taken every antibiotic known to man but I cant shift any infection as I have liver damage due to the tablets I have taken since I broke my neck [C5/6] in 78.

Got to admit I do cheat and take Frusimide [water tablets] to help clear the slime and stuff out of the catheter and tube of the bag.

Anyone who has been in a chair for a few years will know what works for them and will ignore the able bods who try and put their pennies worth in- especially nurses. They cant even begin to understand what we go through. I do my own catheter with the help from my mates because the nurses push the whole catheter inside which kicks off my
autonomic dysreflexia. They just never listened when I ask them not to put it in so far, all I got was 'We are trained' Trained in what? Torture?

My BP was 350/180 on one occasion [and rising] my head was banging, pouring sweat, pounding heart blah blah blah. The nurse [a nice one] took my catheter out and that started the AD, she was then in a catch 22 situation, she needed to get a new cath in, but I was in so much pain she couldn't, eventually it was sorted but I could not speak properly for 3 weeks.


God, I waffle on don't I. Sorry folk but I hope some of this has helped some of you

Take Care

Pam

Haha about the nurses knowing more than you. I'm a C-5 tetra with full sensation, and a man. Cathing sucks, to say the least espescially with nurses who feel the need to use the full extent of the tube.

As for the sediment in urine, highly likely that it is a formation of white blood cells (pus) in response to an infection.

[PAMLJ993]

Hikkakaru, on Nov 7 2008, 05:03 AM, said:

PAMLJ993, on Nov 5 2008, 06:59 PM, said:

Tash, on Nov 5 2008, 04:03 PM, said:

While caring for my man...if i run across that before I get him to the drs. I try water and cranberry juice for a couple days constantly ...If still same results go to the dr it must be more than not enough water or fluids.

Be careful and safe.

Hi, Be careful with the cranberry juice. Don't drink more than 400mls a day as the zinc in it has been linked to Alzheimer's disease.

Also, it is not the done thing to drink to much fluid nowadays as it overworks the kidneys. So if anyone is drinking pints at a time- stop- a few 250ml mugfuls throughout the day is better, with tea and coffee or whatever it is you drink normally. Over the years we have been told to drink 2lts, 6lts and 8lts a day [can they ever get it right!], blimey can you imagine drinking 8lts a day! Some years ago we were told to take vitamin C to keep the catheter clear, a year later we were told to stop as it was blocking them

I have got a tube that is chockablock full of the white stuff plus blood. The white stuff is either white blood cells because of infection or calcium. My catheter is covered with an egg shell type material trying to form around the balloon. I know I must have stones but I have not seen any doctors about it.

In the last few months I have taken every antibiotic known to man but I cant shift any infection as I have liver damage due to the tablets I have taken since I broke my neck [C5/6] in 78.

Got to admit I do cheat and take Frusimide [water tablets] to help clear the slime and stuff out of the catheter and tube of the bag.

Anyone who has been in a chair for a few years will know what works for them and will ignore the able bods who try and put their pennies worth in- especially nurses. They cant even begin to understand what we go through. I do my own catheter with the help from my mates because the nurses push the whole catheter inside which kicks off my
autonomic dysreflexia. They just never listened when I ask them not to put it in so far, all I got was 'We are trained' Trained in what? Torture?

My BP was 350/180 on one occasion [and rising] my head was banging, pouring sweat, pounding heart blah blah blah. The nurse [a nice one] took my catheter out and that started the AD, she was then in a catch 22 situation, she needed to get a new cath in, but I was in so much pain she couldn't, eventually it was sorted but I could not speak properly for 3 weeks.


God, I waffle on don't I. Sorry folk but I hope some of this has helped some of you

Take Care

Pam

Haha about the nurses knowing more than you. I'm a C-5 tetra with full sensation, and a man. Cathing sucks, to say the least espescially with nurses who feel the need to use the full extent of the tube.

As for the sediment in urine, highly likely that it is a formation of white blood cells (pus) in response to an infection.

I got a fair bit of feeling back. Mostly sensation to soft touch, stick a pin in me and I know its a pin, but don't get the pain like able bods- then again, stick a pin in me and run because my spasm will kick the hell out of you.

My right hip is in constant pain because I lie on that side in bed, as I can only use my left hand to pick things up. And when I'm in the chair my body slumps that way, no matter what they try to keep me upright. You learn to live with it all and get down to the pub for the best pain killers ever!

Edited by PAMLJ993, 10 November 2008 - 04:17 PM.

[reaven85]

Yeah its still bad some days worse than others. One day while transferring to bed (right out of shower) He peed. Well it did not look like pee what so ever. It was about 2 tablespoons worth? It looked like it had trouble coming out and was thick and white and smelled of pure amonia. I mean It took your breathe away litteraly. He says he is gonna die. I tell him hey lets go to the doctor. He says no.

He has been running fevers here and there. Also he has had a bit of trouble with bms. I think that when he spasms and clinches its stops the poo process. Is it possible for me to take a urine sample somewhere?

Oh and what is a stone formation? Those words scare me to death. Im trying to gather as much info on it so I can scare him into it

[hooplady]

reaven85, on Nov 28 2008, 08:26 AM, said:

Is it possible for me to take a urine sample somewhere?

Yes, you can probably take a sample to the nearest lab, but they will still need an order from his doctor to run any tests. Tom's dr recently ordered a urine test and I asked "but how is he supposed to he give a sample???" and nobody at the doc's office knew quite how to go about it. I called the lab at the nearby hospital and they instructed me to simply bring it in a sterile container. I just sterilized a glass jar in boiling water, put his sample in it, taped the lid shut, labeled it, and dropped it off.

But unless you have authority to order it, you will probably still need Bricen's cooperation to get the scrip from the doc. Good luck!

-Janet

[qbounce]

reaven85, on Nov 28 2008, 06:26 AM, said:

Yeah its still bad some days worse than others. One day while transferring to bed (right out of shower) He peed. Well it did not look like pee what so ever. It was about 2 tablespoons worth? It looked like it had trouble coming out and was thick and white and smelled of pure amonia. I mean It took your breathe away litteraly. He says he is gonna die. I tell him hey lets go to the doctor. He says no.

He has been running fevers here and there. Also he has had a bit of trouble with bms. I think that when he spasms and clinches its stops the poo process. Is it possible for me to take a urine sample somewhere?

Oh and what is a stone formation? Those words scare me to death. Im trying to gather as much info on it so I can scare him into it

Most Dr's offer sterile containers wrapped in plastic. Ask his Doc for a couple containers for the future. But, with these symptoms given, fever, thick smelly urine . . . that's plenty to go on for a reason to have it checked out. And yes, if it isn't a UTI, he may want to take an X-ray for kidney/ bladder stones.